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Julius Novachrono vs Satoru Gojo

LordGinSama said:
Can I see Julius ever dodging something with several Kilometers of AoE that also alters the space around him? He wouldn't have anywhere to dodge if space itself is being completely altered into a separate territory.
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Mana Zone Precog would sense it coming and he would simply move out of the way, with sheer speed or teleportation.
 
Epsilon_R said:
He did, otherwise it wouldn't have bounced off.
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He didn't, it literally fails to make contact with him and fails, bouncing back. It bounced back because it's made of ******* rubber, rubber bounces.


The attacks don't hit Gojo, they hit his Infinity shield. Now your just getting desperate.
 
LordGinSama said:
He didn't, it literally fails to make contact with him and fails, bouncing back. It bounced back because it's made of ******* rubber, rubber bounces.


The attacks don't hit Gojo, they hit his Infinity shield. Now your just getting desperate.
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Lmao

First you said it was an infinite 3-D space between him and the opponent, now you say it's a shield?

The point of the ability is to get slower the closer you get, where does it say his Infinity bounce back? Were there other things that bounced off of his Infinity?

And as far as I'm aware, you don't need to be made of rubber to bounce back.

Seems like you're the one getting desperate to me
 
Epsilon_R said:
Yeah but what proves it's different now? The infinite space is supposed to be there

If it really was an Infinite space, both the rubber and the pen would have been frozen
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Okay, I don’t think you even read that scan fully. The targets were individually assessed by their speed, mass, and danger. The pen is more dangerous, bigger, and faster than the eraser.
 
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Epsilon_R said:
Lmao

First you said it was an infinite 3-D space between him and the opponent, now you say it's a shield?
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That's the name of the technique? It's his Infinity Shield and yes, Infinity does place an infinite 3-D distance. Don't try playing these games of desperation, your grasping for straws here.
Epsilon_R said:
And as far as I'm aware, you don't need to be made of rubber to bounce back.
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.... what?
Epsilon_R said:
Seems like you're the one getting desperate to me
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Nice argument, basically gonna use mine now real nice.
 
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
Okay, I don’t think you even read that scan fully. The targets were individually added by their speed, mass, and danger. The pen is more dangerous, bigger, and faster than the eraser.
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Yeah? That doesn't really explain why he got hit by the rubber if his infinite shield was already activated
 
Epsilon_R said:
Yeah but what proves it's different now? The infinite space is supposed to be there

If it really was an Infinite space, both the rubber and the pen would have been frozen
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That was Gojo from years ago in comparison to his current version in the timeline, plus he was very inexperienced at that time
 
If you read the 76th Chapter of JJK, Gojo explained how the automatic infinity works saying that the targets are selected automatically based on mass, speed, shape, and danger rating. He also proceeded to even talk about how he would need to learn to pick up on poisons (this makes sense as a poison diffusing across the air would have little to none of these danger ratings) showing that anything that has little or lacks the danger ratings does not get automatically stopped as we even see the eraser hit Gojo. Mana is magic energy so it has no mass or shape, also mana simply existing in the area isn’t moving at any dangerous speeds. Lastly, mana would lack cursed energy. Based on this mana would not get selected by Gojo’s infinity automatically, also Gojo cannot sense mana so he can’t stop it manually. Julius is a mana zone user so he can take control of mana existing in the area and with that, mana zone users have the ability to create spells from anywhere within their mana zone hence Julius can create time spells where Gojo already is without needing to deal with infinite space allowing Julius to win. Also regardless of speed equalization, for any of Gojo's action's such as movements or cursed techniques, if any of them are within the range of Julius' mana zone, he would be able to easily outpace Gojo as Julius would forsee said action
 
For that, Gojo would need to manage to get Julius in his domain, he doesn't have the range to do so
 
Yeah but that doesn't help against Precog anyway. I definitely give Julius the advantage in teleportation
 
When did I say it was infaillible?

You don't need to see every timeline or something like that, just to predict someone's future location.

It's not on Yh's level but it's more than potent enough to easily predict Gojo's teleportations
 
Nothing here has really convinced me that Julius has the upper hand here so far. Also, I doubt the level of precog Julius has, at least from what was shown in the manga and anime so far.
 
Ywacch said:
If you read the 76th Chapter of JJK, Gojo explained how the automatic infinity works saying that the targets are selected automatically based on mass, speed, shape, and danger rating. He also proceeded to even talk about how he would need to learn to pick up on poisons (this makes sense as a poison diffusing across the air would have little to none of these danger ratings) showing that anything that has little or lacks the danger ratings does not get automatically stopped as we even see the eraser hit Gojo. Mana is magic energy so it has no mass or shape, also mana simply existing in the area isn’t moving at any dangerous speeds. Lastly, mana would lack cursed energy. Based on this mana would not get selected by Gojo’s infinity automatically, also Gojo cannot sense mana so he can’t stop it manually. Julius is a mana zone user so he can take control of mana existing in the area and with that, mana zone users have the ability to create spells from anywhere within their mana zone hence Julius can create time spells where Gojo already is without needing to deal with infinite space allowing Julius to win. Also regardless of speed equalization, for any of Gojo's action's such as movements or cursed techniques, if any of them are within the range of Julius' mana zone, he would be able to easily outpace Gojo as Julius would forsee said action
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If this is true, all Julius has to do is think and he wins
 
Dragopentling said:
Nothing here has really convinced me that Julius has the upper hand here so far. Also, I doubt the level of precog Julius has, at least from what was shown in the manga and anime so far.
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In black clover, Julius is able to evade multiple light attacks from patri. Assuming that Gojo's domain instantly traps the opponent, he would still need to move faster than light by performing the hand sign in order for his attack to be too fast for Julius to react to. In this case, where speed has been equalized, it would be impossible for Gojo to move too fast for Julius to react especially due to the fact that Julius would have the same speed as Gojo + mana zone precognition allowing him to easily outpace Gojo's movements. Even with Gojo's instant teleportation, we've seen that Gojo can't spam it for combat purposes and he also uses a hand seal for that so there would still be time before the activation.
 
Epsilon_R said:
If this is true, all Julius has to do is think and he wins
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Sorry I forgot to post the panels of Gojo saying this
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