But they haven't reached his potential, not even close to it? And Yuta agrees with this btw, thought he'd go and help Gojo, turns out he wasn't built for that.
What are you replying to? I didn't say they reached his potential, I'm blatantly saying they grow rapidly since Gojo still believes they will reach himself, so you cant use Hakari from one year ago as a limiter ,while Tempest is saying Hakari didnt grow
Only one ignoring what's written in the manga and Databook is you. I even gave an explanation with an example.
You didn't debunked anything. Just ducking what's presented Against you.
Yuta can make a comeback within 3 months as a special grade from losing his previous power meanwhile Gojo states Hakari has same potential. One year gap was big enough time for him to grow. Unless you prove he doesn't have the potential and Gojo was lying.
15F Sukuna was capable of intercepting a strike from Gojo intended to kill Kenjaku which would scale him above Naobito anyway
You: Gojo himself says Hakari, Yuta and others will be as good as him one day
Special Grade for sorcerers isn't just "ahhh who's stronger". There's specific requirements. Which is why Yuji isn't special grade for beating Special Grade Death Paintings.
Very quickly, I don't know nor care, cause idk.
Yeah I'm saying their growth wasn't actually impressive. They aren't even able to help Gojo. The fact it's implied everyone has to go and jump a weakened Sukuna also proves this. And we see Hakari and Yuta's growth in a year, they end up struggling in combat against past sorcerers who are nothing but just stronger first grades, basikally this rapid growth is in context underwhelming
It doesnt matter, really. Isnt as if Hakari would show off his powers when he barely fight or need to. He's isnt active as a sorcerer
You keep sending the same page not proving anythingOnly one ignoring what's written in the manga and Databook is you. I even gave an explanation with an example.
Tackle my argument. Not me. If not, don't say anything else
Yuji has the potential.
I disagree with the character who utilized the feat in the OP to be allowed to scale to it due to the issues the scaling has with it
An example of how painfully complicated power scaling can get
More specific, I think it's currently on Hakari having the potential to be on Gojo's level and he has and/or will?!
It's funny how you're taking that sentence out of context then accusing me of not reading your posts.
Which special grade sorcerers did Yuji beat? Choso is clearly called by Kenjaku a first grade sorcerer
You ignored how your point will go towards scaling Naobito above 15F Sukuna who could react and block a serious Gojo.
I didn't even sent that scan to you previously.
You didn't debunked anything.
If he doesn't grow how he will reach Gojos level one day? Your statement are literally Contradicting.
I was waiting for the debate to be over. I guess you are not changing your stance anyway.
That was for the hypersonic calc, she has several subsonic to supersonic+ calcs that tempest did prior to her bullet catching feat.
How would Gojo know Hakari is growing?
Where did I say he beat a special grade sorcerer?Which special grade sorcerers did Yuji beat? Choso is clearly called by Kenjaku a first grade sorcerer
Then maybe Gojo not all that fast without his ct, since his speed was noted to be an application of his limitless, not his regular combat
ok.
Years ago I told a mentee of mine that he has the potential to go great with sports.
You ain't wait for the conversation to start before you added the other votes at the speed of light.
Meanwhile Hakari is shown to running underground fighting and kicking asses of whoever enters his turf. There is no statement he stopped training especially when fighting gives better growth than training in that school
Doesn't matter all Sorcerers has accelerated development. Which also already accepted by wiki. There is nowhere stated Hakari stopped training. As I already said he was literally running fight club and running underground activities and kicking asses whovever enters his turf.
You are here arguing with me where they didn't. So stop trying to act like I didn't wanted to count your vote. It's not that deep. As for Naobito case I already addressed that even before staffs gave the input.
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The last CRT pretty much established that the Supersonic+ calcs were going to be rejected for the same reason the Hypersonic calc one was (unless they were for Awakened Maki)
The only person who reacts to Gakuganji's sound waves is Juzo and he doesn't have scaling to anyone else to use as a reference since he gets taken out by Gojo immediately. Naoya also always uses Projection Sorcerery when he performs his blitzes.
Fighting a bunch of little fodder makes you go from subsonic to almost baseline MHS+
Do you know what accelerated development is?
You just aren't reading then. I accepted the known and I said their levels of strength would be known by othersYou are here arguing with me where they didn't. So stop trying to act like I didn't wanted to count your vote. It's not that deep. As for Naobito case I already addressed that even before staffs gave the input.
DDM, dereck and duedetta gave their input after the discussion was over not before I addressed Naobito statement. .
Also I'm gonna drop this here because one who using Naobito statement seems to don't know the meaning of Known and Unknown.
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1. used to refer to something or someone that is familiar to or understood by…unknown
1. not known or familiar: 2. what is not familiar or known: 3. a person…
@Duedate8898 @DarkDragonMedeus @Dereck03 can you read the new arguments
This is a bit misleading, their ad is not in stats, but in abilities for most of them. As I listed Higuruma, Yuji and Megumi. It is also stated that this development is not easy. And also, Hakari fighting random no name sorcerers in a fight club is really your way of showing Hakari didn't stop training? And even if he didn't stop training, who is to say this training ever amounted to anything? We see he's still locked in as first grade, we see he still struggles against people like the Manga artist in base, he never learned rct, his domain came with his ct as well. The guy didn't have to train as much as you think.
I concede on this part then I thought you guys accepted a solid Accelerated Development.This is a bit misleading, their ad is not in stats, but in abilities for most of them. As I listed Higuruma, Yuji and Megumi. It is also stated that this development is not easy. And also, Hakari fighting random no name sorcerers in a fight club is really your way of showing Hakari didn't stop training? And even if he didn't stop training, who is to say this training ever amounted to anything? We see he's still locked in as first grade, we see he still struggles against people like the Manga artist in base, he never learned rct, his domain came with his ct as well. The guy didn't have to train as much as you think.
You didn't brought up any new arguments. Another guy already brought your arguments previously and I did addressed them in this thread only later onwards staff gave their input. Naobito Arguments were brought up by another guy in this thread even before you. So don't see where this new arguments thing comes from.
I will put you as a Disagreed for now. But @Duedate8898 here explained it better. Tell me if you change your mind.
My POV still the same as here. I still agree with OP.
Do the images only not work for me?Calculation is already in OP. Just do a quick calculation for how much value comes for that when you consider only 5% you will get that. Also I didn't say he is superior to everyone.
I did gave two choices. Yutas Perception speed is already shown to be above Hakari. So I don't really see a point in scaling Yuta below him. As I suggested we should scale him above or atleast relative to him.
I should reiterate that Gege himself admitted that parts of the fanbook are subject to change post Vol-15.
Nobody said it's a cap for the series. It's a cap for the dude who did the feat.
Doesn't matter. The last thread solidified that it doesn't matter who has the feat, if they fall under the wall.
Didn't the new Maki who's equal to Toji get blitzed by lightning from much further distances? Same Maki who scales to 15F Sukuna?
Subject to change means that info in the series needs to contradict it. Nothing contradicts it.
"May be even faster" means in the same ballpark but superior, supported when the mf said HIS SPEED RIVALS SUKUNAS, AND THE ONLY SUKUNA HE'S SEEN so far is 3 Finger Sukuna
I don't know why you think that CRT is some holy grail. Things can be changed, and I am presenting the arguments so please respond to those instead of just linking me a CRT that I was apart of and am aware of.
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