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JUJUTSU KAISEN SPEED DOWNGRADE CONT.
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Cut that out.
He's been moving at least Mach 1 for the whole fight. "At that speed" assuming to be his top speed when he's still accelerating is the biased standpoint.
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Chapter literally details Maki’s perceptions being tuned to the point where information only people on her level can be seen.
literally a call back illustrated for us and Naoaya even notes she dodges this speed mid air.
Just sad
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Let's wait the battle to end. Maybe the next chapter shows some better feats and panels that can turn a week of discussion completly useless
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It's not just perception. Stop acting like it's just a regular speed and perception boost. She has advanced senses now.
cause she can't fly mf, dodging in mid air is a crazy skill
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Why are you assuming "even at that speed" to be the peak speed?
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cuz the picture shown is when he reaches mach 3....
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Thank you for actually providing an argument
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because thats shown in the image when referencing. Plus that speed is the benchmark speed of the fight, the whole thing is revolved around it.
Not only that but he also recoils into his shell, he only does that when going mach 3. Additionally, he wouldn't be freaking the **** out about her being fast enough to avoid and him supposed to be the fastest if he could still accelerate up to mach 3
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What? This is her nee perception…so obviously it bow scales to her reaction and perception speed lmao. This is like arguing sasuke doesn't get more reactive when awakening his sharingan because be gets info analysis a top his natural senses. Legit bo clue the point you are trying to make. Noaya being tagged by okd sword dude twice despite pre awakening Maki being unable to tag him from point blank also highlights this.
uhm…yeah, that’s the point. She went from being blitzed at 100m to being capable of casually no look dodging him mid air.
you’re being crazy obtuse about this and I know you aren’t this dumb so stop being bias.
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Scaling should be
Gojo> Infinite Hakari~=Kashimo<=> Yuuta=Ryo=Space chick>Awakened Teen Gojo>=Toji=Maki=Naoya (Mach 3)
Gojo> Infinite Hakari~=Kashimo<=> Yuuta=Ryo=Space chick>Awakened Teen Gojo>=Toji=Maki=Naoya (Mach 3)
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Uhhmmm Maki will need an actual speed feat of dodging Naoya, so far if she knows what naoya is doing, dodging him will be aim dodging
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Uhhhhmmm, no. Learn what aim dodging is and what her actual enlightenment was before making statements like this please.
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What? She quite blatantly aimdodged by sensing his movements before he was even near her.
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yeah no tempest. The narrative intent with the framing of the background panel is that he reaches that acceleration. he circles around multiple times while maki is evading him. When he first his mach 3, it didnt take long
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Bro that's not what aim dodging is. Aim dodging is explicitly timing the activation of an attack so that you can leave its trajectory before the attack is actually fired.
Maki literally dodges him mid air without a foothold, and before Naoya can even adjust (hence his surprise). It's so blatantly not an aim dodge that I really can't say much more than that. But feel free to call in staff.
Her power is just analytical prediction as he can see "facets" of information as such a crazy level. Means nothing if she is dodging still after the attack as been fired. See The sharingan from Naruto for an apt comparison.
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i do think her final dodge can be calced. Naoya is right next to her when she does it and she wasnt moving prior
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So he travels a much further distance than her in the same timeframes?
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no not what i meant. shes dodging that entire time. i means hes building speed. the first time he went mach 3 he circled around alot to accelerate
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That is quite literally the whole scene
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second to last, still a feat. she wasnt moving ahead of time
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Can be calced
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Seeing a projectile coming at you at a straight-line and dodging it is still considered aim dodging
I know
You don't have to be as fast as the bullet, even if you are three times slower, you will still dodge it which is my point here.
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Nice ignoring the fact she jumped from a building to above Naoya and then punched him down all requiring her perception needing to see him to do all of this coordination. You're dragging this aim dodging shit when that's not even the scenario here.
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The aim dodging argument is entirely irrelevant when we know she still dodges while he's practically right next to her without having moved in preparation prior
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Manipulate the page? HowNope
Projectile Dodging Feats
There will be times where you will see a character reacting to, or sometimes outright dodging various projectiles, such as arrows, bullets, and even something much, much faster. Thus, in order to calculate how fast one must move in order to dodge incoming projectiles, there are a couple of...vsbattles.fandom.com
This is inherently narratively wrong, and Maki moved faster than Naobito (with bare minimum mach 3 reactions) from a compromised position, and still ended up behind him before he could reach her.
And that wasn't your point, you explicitly tried to manipulate page order to make it seem like she aim dodged.
She could see him coming and she kept dodging and could not tag her
The only notable speed feat here was the second to the last time, when she moved only when he was few meters away
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Because she kept dodging sherlock
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Honestly this entire aim-dodging premise falls very flat when Naoya outright states that
1. "I should be the one with overwhelming speed" (Insinuating that Maki's feats are in fact speed related)
2. "Why can't I catch you" (outright stating that he can't keep with Maki)
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The Argument that she's "Aim Dodging" is built on Incredulity and Dishonesty, Naoya directly implies she has Overwhelming Speed compared to her.
Ge fails to tag her Multiple times, while Maki herself is casual and able to easily react and sense everyone one of his movements while she dodges him extremely easily mid air
Ge fails to tag her Multiple times, while Maki herself is casual and able to easily react and sense everyone one of his movements while she dodges him extremely easily mid air
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Huh? So technically can you now dodge the bullet, considering the fact you are not fast as a bullet?
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If it is 50M away, yes you can
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What do you think Naoya is implying when he says "I should be the one with overwhelming speed!!"
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