k so unquantifiably higher
was thinking about it because yuji went from not being able to harm ISB mahito at all. to digging his fist through his body and oneshotting with BF.
Agree with this
Agree with this as well
I mean, i kinda agree on CE attacks being invulnerable. I only disagree with the notion that having CE around and inside you makes you invulnerable (limited or not) to non CE attacks.
Sure. But again does not mean that makes them invulnerable to non CE attacks. The aura would help in defense, but it wont completely negate the force/energy of any non CE attack just because it itself is invulnerable.
The sword went through him tho. He reinforced his body, and that made him more durable. I dont think there was anything else. If Gojo did that and stood there trying to tank attacks from Tojis sword (Not the ISOH, the normal one) then hed get cut.
For the CE only? Ig?
Well no, cursed weapons allow him to exorcise curses. Then there are special ones like ISOH which negate CT.
Addressed this above.
The cursed energy aura creates a "shield".
The sword went through the body because Gojo was not using the cursed energy. As we can see a chapter later, Toji was able to destroy Gojo's body when he used something cursed to attack
The cursed weapons allow you to fight with cursed energy users, they are made of cursed energy. Itadori got a cursed weapon precisely because he didn't know how to use cursed energy. Miwa uses cursed equipment to fight other sorcerers btw
Reinforcing a weapon makes it increase durability, not power. Power depends on the user
Can you please comment here again?
Do you agree with sorcerers having limited invulnerability like life of king suggested?
I need more context.
They don't get hurt. Itadori in the specific scene was defeating a curse in physical matters, but later it was stated that everything was useless without cursed energy, as "Only a curse can exorcise a curse"
Would it need to be objectvely stated, and can't be implied or assumed by following a certain logic?
That seems more like limited deathless immortality than invulnerability.
Yes, and even a statement isn't good enough most of the time
How?
This is something that needs much more context than invulverability; Again, Itadori was defeating the curse, but at the end it was shown to be intact. This is not immortality, because she was not even really injured.
Can you please still read the debate though, just to get the full context before giving the veredict
Didn't they say curses can be hurt by baseball bats, handguns, shotguns, tanks, and carpet bombs? All traditional weapons?
Alright, I'll skim through it.
It is stated that if convencional weaponry were used/effectve( depend on translation i guess) against curses the weapons you cited would be what would be needed to kill them
That ain't the thing though, everyone agreed that curses are invulnerable , the debate is ether or not sorcerers should get it as well due to amping themselves with cursed energy
Ohhh.
Read it, not caught up for a while tho
This is to measure the power needed for a sorcerer to defeat a curse. Itadori from the beginning of the series was 8-C (Much stronger than a tank) and was not able to hurt curses weaker than him
EDIT: By note, reinforcing the body is not simply reinforcing the physical. Reinforcing a part of the body creates an aura of cursed energy (curse) that interacts with things
My earlier disagreement with limited invulnerability for sorcerer's still stand.
This isnt stated IIRC . All Gojo says that he reinforces his body with CE so that the sword doesnt do any more damage.
Agree, but they arent made of CE right? They are just reinforced with CE repeatedly, making CE a part of them.
It would at least aply to anything who is 100% made of CE, so shikigamis should get it yes
That would be nice, without energy equalization it would be hard to see them, and now without CE you cannot exorcise them.
Could you give an explanation of Mahito's ability? He will now have conceptual manipulation so I believe the justification in the profiles should be changed
Yeah at work right now I can explain more when I get home. Also awaiting my CRT to be finished so we can accurately determine what we’ll get but we will definitely be getting some form of concept or concept like info hax.
No, the "time does not pass statement" is very weird considering how the place is filled with decomposing corpses, like time does not pass but people and corpses age just fine?, the fact gojo also says "looks like" and events on the cube happening on the same time as real life events surely does not help
So you agree that cursed energy is invulverable, but a shield made of cursed energy is not? What is the point to this reasoning?
An effect is shown that he has deactivated the defects and Toji's strategy was to catch Gojo when he was not afraid of something attacking. When he reactivated the defense with cursed energy Toji was not able to do anything else
"Weapons in which curses dwell"
The other weapons depend on the user's cursed energy
I mean, in Toriko this is accepted for the same reason
They are protecting the body. The cursed energy protects the body from possible attacks, similar to when it protects the soul (In the case of the soul, it is limited).
This does not sound like a weakness
Hanami fought for several minutes against Toge and he did not block any attacks. It's more like a natural resistance to curses
Don't know much about toriko but that verse has been kinda... dead for a while , anywhay we should probrably wait for more direct statements on the time part because right now it is whack
