Jujutsu Kaisen Hax & Addition Thread

[Arkenis]

Actually it seems Sukuna already has this placed. Should Mahoraga get resistance to this fear manipulation or is it more of an activation dependent on Sukuna

 

[Arkenis]

Maharaga is stronger than Jogo. I'm not sure why this is a thing.

Idk Sukuna praises Jogo at the end of their fight and puts him up on a higher level than Mahoraga. He calls Mahoraga trash and is only impressed by his physicals not his overall power. So it’s very unknown who’s actually stronger.

 

[Arkenis]

Also Sukuna should have power mimicry considering his implication when he opens the box and calls the ability Jogo's specialty not his own ability.

 

[Outcast]

Idk Sukuna praises Jogo at the end of their fight and puts him up on a higher level than Mahoraga. He calls Mahoraga trash and is only impressed by his physicals not his overall power. So it’s very unknown who’s actually stronger.

Yeah but Sukuna got tagged once during the fight no? He also seemed to be trying more, due to Mahoragas adaptation he had to use Domain + Big fire attack.
We know for a fact that Mahoraga would one shot Jogo if they fought, but thats more a matchup thing. Overall? IDK...
Mahoraga is a shikigami, I doubt Sukuna would want to praise something that cant talk.

Also Sukuna should have power mimicry considering his implication when he opens the box and calls the ability Jogo's specialty not his own ability.

He calls it Jogos specialty because Jogo is a cursed sprit whose whole jig is fire. He didnt even know Sukuna had Fire CT tbh.
Tho he likely has some kind of power mimicry. There are theories about him eating people and taking their CT's. AFAIK, Sukuna is the only person with more than one cursed technique.
He likely has more since he says "Open" not something like "Flames" so I agree with you on that.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Idk Sukuna praises Jogo at the end of their fight and puts him up on a higher level than Mahoraga.

Not really. Maho fight happens after the Jogo fight, he never directly compares them.

That statement is also questionable for several reasons:

• It was arguably Yuji's influence on Sukuna as both Jogo and Sukuna questioned what is the sudden change of heart was about.
• The praise was literally talking about Jogo "making it fun". It was not elevating him in the slightest outside of him not getting insta-gibbed and having some fun techniques.

He calls Mahoraga trash and is only impressed by his physicals not his overall power. So it’s very unknown who’s actually stronger.

Sukuna blatantly admits that Mahoraga could have messed him up several times and is noticeably tagged by him several times. The comparison between direct performances against the same fighter clearly dictates the difference in power:
- Jogo was given the deal of Sukuna helping them if he could tag Sukuna, immediately after he just made Jogo kneel in front of him and a whose casual swing literally forced Jogo to unlock ultra instinct to be spared from death. This being the thing Jogo has fought for his entire existence. Jogo the whole fight is literally trying to survive and desperately put out offense (he is forced to using the meteor after getting manhandled physically) to simply tag Sukuna, is defeated by a casual sukuna who literally boast so hard he beats Jogo with his own power. Jogo literally never tags him and Sukuna literally has time in the fight to mess around with humans.

Vs Maharaga Sukuna literally begins the fight on the defensive for the first time in is 15 finger form. He notes the first strike also could have killed him had he been pure cursed energy. He then lands a series of physical blows (mind you each blow was ragdolling Jogo) that do nothing, and uses cleave to cut him up before being sent flying through hundreds of meters of buildings. Before hitting him with another slew of attacks. Sukuna eventually is forced into utilizing his domain to bring Mahoraga to a point where he can take advantage of the regen lag time and finish him off with something he hadn't adapted to.

Mahoraga literally accomplished, with his first swing, what Jogo couldn't accomplish his whole fight vs Sukuna, threatened to due lethal damage with his positive energy, tagged Sukuna multiple times, and pushed Sukuna to domain expansion endlessly in order to bring him to a vulnerable state.

Mahoraga would murder Jogo and is way more dangerous, especially against curses.

 

[Arkenis]

He notes the first strike also could have killed him had he been pure cursed energy

Yea cuz the sword erases curses not humans. Otherwise he just block a direct attack from Maho.

He then lands a series of physical blows (mind you each blow was ragdolling Jogo) that do nothing, and uses cleave to cut him up before being sent flying through hundreds of meters of buildings. Before hitting him with another slew of attacks. Sukuna eventually is forced into utilizing his domain to bring Mahoraga to a point where he can take advantage of the regen lag time and finish him off with something he hadn't adapted to.

All you've done is state things that messed up both Jogo and Maho. Mahoraga also has adaptation and still wasn't doing much to Sukuna to be impressed with.

Regardless this not a match so lets just go back to hax.

 

[Arkenis]

Yeah but Sukuna got tagged once during the fight no? He also seemed to be trying more, due to Mahoragas adaptation he had to use Domain + Big fire attack.
We know for a fact that Mahoraga would one shot Jogo if they fought, but thats more a matchup thing. Overall? IDK...
Mahoraga is a shikigami, I doubt Sukuna would want to praise something that cant talk.

No in a match Jogo has the advantage. We saw Sukuna figure it out in a chapter. Considering Jogo's abundance of hax he would definitely overwhelm Maho and Domain also is a ez gg. why doubt it? He thinks lowly of even people in his own species, an animal would probably get praised.

 

[Arkenis]

But yea this shouldnt be a derail for this thread. We can talk about scaling in the general discussion thread.

 

[Arkenis]

Please if you have additions to the Hax list for the characters post so we can continue this thread.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

What is being discussed now?

 

[Arkenis]

What is being discussed now?

Nothing now. Are we removing Accel dev for every character?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Probably

 

[Arkenis]

Megumi vs Finger bearer.

I think says it the best that the characters generally have Accelerated Dev

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

He in this case said "person" and not sorcerer

I think it is flowery language

 

[Arkenis]

No I think it's just talking about in general. We already know sorcerers can develop their ct and this is literally him developing it into a domain.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Yeah curse energy is directly tied to emotions and thoughts. We’ve seen several sorcerors already accomplish this: Yuji, Nobara, Megumi, Gojo, Yuuta, etc. most people worth their salt should get it. Hell even strong cursed spirits like dagon and mahito have shown it.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I am neutral about accelerated development

Anyway, nobody will argue about invulverability anymore? Can I consider it accepted?

 

[Dr._whiteee]

I am neutral about accelerated development

Anyway, nobody will argue about invulverability anymore? Can I consider it accepted?

Several people still disagree so probably not. I also disagree given that Megumi states no regular sorceror should be able to tank falling 41 stories.

 

[Theendzero13]

I also disagree given that Megumi states no regular sorceror should be able to tank falling 41 stories.

Can you send the statement

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Can you send the statement

Nah I am at work. It’s the chapter where they fight the old dude with the inverse ability.

 

[Arkenis]

didnt sukuna compare Mahoraga to 3 fingers or did i confuse something

Said maho could probably beat 3f. That’s probably due to hax

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I also disagree given that Megumi states no regular sorceror should be able to tank falling 41 stories.

Megumi just says that he is "clean"

And as I said, the invulnerability is only in one specific point; Like, if cursed energy is invulverability how is a hand with a "shield" made of cursed energy not?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Said maho could probably beat 3f. That’s probably due to hax

What the **** are you arguing. Maho was literally fighting against Sukuna who had 15 fingers

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Megumi just that he is "clean"

And as I said, the invulnerability is only in one specific point; Like, if cursed energy is invulverability how is a hand with a "shield" made of cursed energy not?

Invulnerability means they can’t be affected. Megumi’s statements confirms no regular sorceror can tank that level of damage which means most cursed reinforcement would still involve injuries from a fall of that height which means no invulnerability.

The panda scan doesn’t really so much. It just means his reinforcement+strength was enough to pulverize mechamaru’s tech. No different from say someone doing the same thing with nen or ki.

 

[Arkenis]

What the **** are you arguing. Maho was literally fighting against Sukuna who had 15 fingers

im talking about the statement Sukuna said.

 

[Arkenis]

Invulnerability means they can’t be affected. Megumi’s statements confirms no regular sorceror can tank that level of damage which means most cursed reinforcement would still involve injuries from a fall of that height which means no invulnerability.

The panda scan doesn’t really so much. It just means his reinforcement+strength was enough to pulverize mechamaru’s tech. No different from say someone doing the same thing with nen or ki.

Glad this is done.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

im talking about the statement Sukuna said.

Sukuna talked about the 3 fingers because Megumi originally planned to use Maho against him

 

[Arkenis]

Here.
@LIFE_OF_KING

 

[Arkenis]

Sukuna talked about the 3 fingers because Megumi originally planned to use Maho against him

Is that not 3 fingers?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Yes... That's what I said

 

[Arkenis]

Yes... That's what I said

So he’s saying Maho might have been able to beat him.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Here.
@LIFE_OF_KING

Once again you guys are heaviky misinterpreting this and clearly ignoring on panel performances.

The wcan is literally just saying mahoraga eould have beaten him earlier when Megumi fought him. Sukuna is arrogant thus his “maybe” attached.

mahoraga blatantly outperformed joho who is worth 8.5 fingers and actually pushed a 15 finger sukuna. There is no world where mahoraga is anywhere near 3FS

 

[Arkenis]

Once again you guys are heaviky misinterpreting this and clearly ignoring on panel performances.

The wcan is literally just saying mahoraga eould have beaten him earlier when Megumi fought him. Sukuna is arrogant thus his “maybe” attached.

mahoraga blatantly outperformed joho who is worth 8.5 fingers and actually pushed a 15 finger sukuna. There is no world where mahoraga is anywhere near 3FS

….. Maho barely does anything of note prior to his Adaptation. If we’re talking Maho after adaptation then that’s fine to say he scales to 15f but base no.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Invulnerability means they can’t be affected.

This has never been established. Invulnerability means you will never take real damage

For example, Baldur has invulnerability, even when Kratos can break his neck

The panda scan doesn’t really so much. It just means his reinforcement+strength was enough to pulverize mechamaru’s tech. No different from say someone doing the same thing with nen or ki.

The cursed energy is pulverizing Mechamuru before it touches Panda

 

[Arkenis]

And Sukuna being arrogant is irrelevant. He’s still able to determine his own power and the power of others.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

….. Maho barely does anything of note prior to his Adaptation. If we’re talking Maho after adaptation then that’s fine to say he scales to 15f but base no.

Sukuna talked about the 3 fingers because he is referring to Megumi, saying that he could have been defeated if Megumi had summoned Maho in battle

Hell, Maho was able to survive several punches from Sukuna without adapting

 

[Dr._whiteee]

….. Maho barely does anything of note prior to his Adaptation. If we’re talking Maho after adaptation then that’s fine to say he scales to 15f but base no.

He literally forced sukuna on the defensive and tagged him…something joho couldn’t do the WHOLE time he fought sukuna. He than kicked him hundreds of meters. Sukuna would not let someone touch him let alone put him on the defensive.

Stop artifically trying to segment mahiraga’s abilities….that’s what he fights with…It’s like saying toji isn’t strong because he is only good with his physicals.

Base mahoraga is already strong enough to press sukuna and his regen/adaption don’t amp him, they just make him resistant to attacks he’s faced.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

And Sukuna being arrogant is irrelevant. He’s still able to determine his own power and the power of others.

No it’s not. The scene is blatantly sukuna saying he would have died. Read context my guy.
If you think 3FS is beating someone who pushed 15 finger sukuna that far than idk what to tell you.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

This has never been established. Invulnerability means you will never take real damage

For example, Baldur has invulnerability, even when Kratos can break his neck

The cursed energy is pulverizing Mechamuru before it touches Panda

Will get back to this convo after work.

 

[Arkenis]

He literally forced sukuna on the defensive and tagged him…something joho couldn’t do the WHOLE time he fought sukuna. He than kicked him hundreds of meters. Sukuna would not let someone touch him let alone put him on the defensive.

Stop artifically trying to segment mahiraga’s abilities….that’s what he fights with…It’s like saying toji isn’t strong because he is only good with his physicals.

Base mahoraga is already strong enough to press sukuna and his regen/adaption don’t amp him, they just make him resistant to attacks he’s faced.

Uh what? Mahoraga's adaptation says he adapts to all phenomena, being blitzed would be one of those. He even reacts to Sukunas dismantle and sukunas is surprised by this. And base maho did not press Sukuna in terms of anything.