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man this chapter was good, although not gonna lie I have a feeling that something rather bad will happen in the next two (mainly due to the focus on a certain thumb)
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Can yall ******* stop adding stuff to Gojo's profile please like what the hell is even this
Only the first feat is about physicals, the rest is irrelevant being called the strongest has nothing to do with physical capabilities when he has a broken CT with the perfect trait. Being stronger than Yuta and Hakari means nothing to his rating.
And all of this is useless because his Striking Strength section is complete with all the relevant feats.
Kenjaku will take over Gojo's body and kill everyone, then transport himself into Megumi's body to complete the Merger (if this actually happens I'm killin myself)man this chapter was good, although not gonna lie I have a feeling that something rather bad will happen in the next two (mainly due to the focus on a certain thumb)
notedKenjaku will take over Gojo's body and kill everyone, then transport himself into Megumi's body to complete the Merger (if this actually happens I'm killin myself)
I saw that Yuta was back in his own body and thought "Oh fr? Just like that?"Kenjaku will take over Gojo's body and kill everyone, then transport himself into Megumi's body to complete the Merger (if this actually happens I'm killin myself)
I mean... I wouldn't be opposed to thatI saw that Yuta was back in his own body and thought "Oh fr? Just like that?"
and then I saw Higuruma alive and was like "F*ck it, bring Gojo back, why don't you"
With the way things are going, it's within the realm of possibilityI mean... I wouldn't be opposed to that
Imma make a 1000 word essay on how peak Gojo is if he returns, the glaze will actually be insaneWith the way things are going, it's within the realm of possibility
No way Gege actually takes away Sukuna's one single greatest accomplishmentImma make a 1000 word essay on how peak Gojo is if he returns, the glaze will actually be insane
He'd still have Kashimo igNo way Gege actually takes away Sukuna's one single greatest accomplishment
I don't get what your point is. I'm just using the only example of a tiny domain and an open domain clash in the series. And it is completely fair to argue that Yuta's polishing of his domain and his sheer output should be able to equalize Kenny's
You didn't say advantage here thoughAlso, you said I was acting like Kenny can't switch his barrier conditions. I didn't even imply that. I said that Yuta having the ability to make his domain the size of the Prison Realm based on Gojo's memories means he counters Kenjaku's single most major advantage against him.
This implied you ignored that Kenjaku can counter Yuta’s Compressed Domain and other advantages Kenjaku has overall when you said Yuta is Top 3. You followed up with reasoning that only included two lines about a Compressed Tiny Domain and Rika’s RCT. You didn’t say that an argument could be made, instead, you used definitive words like “he is Top 3.”Yuta is top 3 now btw
He's back in his own body, can use the tiny domain, and overall just completely out-stats Kenjaku. Also, Rika can act completely independently and OUTPUT RCT
And if Kenny tried to use Tengen's ability to tear away domains against Yuta, he'd probably tear away his own in the process, given his would be encompassing Yuta's during the clash, leaving both of them on burnout. And, once again, that leaves Kenny at a disadvantage because of Yuta's stat advantage and Rika, especially with 5-minute mode.
Welcome to leak society.I'm pretty sure its Mei Mei that killed the head like the chapter showed.
And that's mostly cause of the rumors that the heads drain the life force of new shadow users i.e. her brother.
Kusakabe then became the head afterwards and abolished all the rules for New Shadow Style.
The leaks are still up on the JJK Discord serverWelcome to leak society.
All leaks were taken down so I'm not sure.
You might be right though.
I gotta wait for TCB or Kaisen Backup now.
I was arguing against the point from the message before that
For one I never argued Kenny's domain Output. Why are you assuming I am arguing based on Kenny outright overpowering Yuta's domain output.
I was purely talking about Kenny's barriers skills and other abilities he got which can counter tiny domain of Yuta you mentioned.
I don't have problem with Kenny and Yuta domain output matching.
Semantics, dude. I said that under the impression that most people who frequent this page would get the subtext behind "Yuta can use a tiny-sized barrier"You didn't say advantage here though
This implied you ignored that Kenjaku can counter Yuta’s Compressed Domain and other advantages Kenjaku has overall when you said Yuta is Top 3. You followed up with reasoning that only included two lines about a Compressed Tiny Domain and Rika’s RCT. You didn’t say that an argument could be made, instead, you used definitive words like “he is Top 3.”
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And this is post-Sukuna fight, backup plan man Yuta, who knows that Kenjaku expands his domain without closing it, and that he has Tengen in his arsenal. Also, Tengen's ability to dismantle domains seemed to have to do with her directly controlling the Sunyata barriers in the Tomb of the Stars. If that only applies there, then that's not a wincon itself, unless she creates a barrier on the battlefield. If it's something she can do with the same ease otherwise, well then Yuta knows about it. He'll likely be wise to not let his domain get dismantled by Tengen
First of all, I didn’t say Kenny would use Tengen when he is using his own Domain. Kenny isn’t an idiot. Kenny’s Barrier Technique was highly regarded. He can just use SD or HWB to buy time, and then overwhelm Yuta in CQC with his skills (I’m not saying Kenny overwhelms Rika and Yuta in terms of strength, I’m talking about skill, so don’t take it the wrong way). Kenny can just keep his distance from Yuta and Rika with his CQC skills, using Mini Uzumaki or big Uzumaki spam (knowing his curse count, I can definitely see him using at least multiple big shots, enough to buy time), or the gravity technique, which neither Yuta nor Rika has a counter for.
I don’t really see the 5 minute mode helping Yuta anyway. Once he gets inside Kenny’s Domain, he gets cooked. Also, I would argue Kenny wouldn’t let his guard down like Yuki. He would straight up demolish Yuta’s body completely, knowing he has already experienced someone surviving his Domain and giving him trouble.
IIRC, Tengen needs 10 seconds to remove a high tier open barriers Domain like Kenjaku’s. I don’t see him needing the same amount of time for a Closed Barriers Domain, which is common in the verse. Tengen was sure about removing Kenny's domain if it was closed barriers when he planned with Yuki and Choso.
I saw that Yuta was back in his own body and thought "Oh fr? Just like that?"
and then I saw Higuruma alive and was like "F*ck it, bring Gojo back, why don't you"
Disney Kaisen is so real. Now I'm probably gonna get jumped for making fun of other series for bringing back their important characters from dead.I mean... I wouldn't be opposed to that
I mean how it's Semantics.Semantics, dude. I said that under the impression that most people who frequent this page would get the subtext behind "Yuta can use a tiny-sized barrier"
I went back and checked this line isn't in your first commentThe subtext being "to hold off Kenny's open domain"
Having Knowledge isn't giving Yuta any edge. What plan he would come up to counter that? In an face to face scenario.And this is post-Sukuna fight, backup plan man Yuta, who knows that Kenjaku expands his domain without closing it, and that he has Tengen in his arsenal.
Tengen removed his barriers because Kenny had open domain and Yuki was in pinch (IIRC he was trying to remove Kenny's domain normally first). So I don't think it is the same case for other closed domains..Also, Tengen's ability to dismantle domains seemed to have to do with her directly controlling the Sunyata barriers in the Tomb of the Stars. If that only applies there, then that's not a wincon. If it's something she can do with the same ease otherwise, well then Yuta knows about it.
SubtextI went back and checked this line isn't in your first comment
Not using his domain? So it can't be dismantled by Tengen if that's possible? Thus forcing Kenny to either try to be sneaky with—like—an uzumaki, or go all in on with his domain, which forces Yuta to expand his own, leaving them in a position where either both their domains are dismantled or neither are, leaving them at a stalemate until either All-Encompassing Garbhadhatu shatters Mutual Love or Yuta damages Kenny to the point that he can't maintain his barrier if not outright just kill himHaving Knowledge isn't giving Yuta any edge. What plan he would come up to counter that? In an face to face scenario.
Yeah, it's not the same case, but that also requires Yuta to put himself in a position in which Tengen can dismantle his domain without also inadvertently dismantling Kenjaku's. All things considered, I don't think Yuta, with all the prior knowledge that he already has, would put himself into this positionHe most likely would go for Gojo's approach knowing it was advantageous against Sukuna but it would most likely turns out to be Kenjaku advantage like I mentioned above.
Tengen removed his barriers because Kenny had open domain and Yuki was in pinch (IIRC he was trying to remove Kenny's domain normally first). So I don't think it is the same case for other closed domains..
I gave the benefit of the doubt. Tengen could possibly create a barrier on the spot@Sir_Marvulous actually you are right about Tegen only capable of dismantling others domain in his own territory.
It's hard to say. If Kenny will go for CQC with Yuta when Rika is around.Not using his domain? So it can't be dismantled by Tengen if that's possible? Thus forcing Kenny to either try to be sneaky with—like—an uzumaki,
Regarding if even we say Kenny spams domain. Kenny only needs to survive 3 min. Yuta's tiny domain will automatically gets dismantled after that time period (I mean if we have Gojo > Yuta in skills obviously I don't see Yuta's Tiny domain holding more time than Gojo's own)or go all in on with his domain, which forces Yuta to expand his own, leaving them in a position where either both their domains are dismantled or neither are, leaving them at a stalemate until either Kenjaku's domain breaks Yuta's or Yuta damages Kenny to the point that he can't maintain his barrier if not outright just kill him
Well it depends on the conditions I guess but Yuta needs either Domain or 5-min mode to fight Kenny. He can't definitely CQC Kenny with his hands. If he goes for that he would get smoked by Compressed sneak Uzumaki for sureYeah, it's not the same case, but that also requires Yuta to put himself in a position in which Tengen can dismantle his domain without also inadvertently dismantling Kenjaku's. All things considered, I don't think Yuta, with all the prior knowledge that he already has, would put himself into this position
Yeah I mean barriers can be created. So it's possibleI gave the benefit of the doubt. Tengen could possibly create a barrier on the spot
That doesn't sound out of question, though it depends on what is possible for Tengen's barriers that aren't 1000-year-old barriers supported by the systems of barriers that were there naturallyIt's hard to say. If Kenny will go for CQC with Yuta when Rika is around.
Unless Tengen creates some barriers with Binding vow to seperate the two.
Even if he's not as skilled as Gojo at this, he still got free barrier knowledge from him. And I'm thinking that Yuta's tiny domain would last against an open domain domain with a comparable or inferior level of sheer outputRegarding if even we say Kenny spams domain. Kenny only needs to survive 3 min. Yuta's tiny domain will automatically gets dismantled after that time period (I mean if we have Gojo > Yuta in skills obviously I don't see Yuta's Tiny domain holding more time than Gojo's own)
Kenny can pull it off with his Curses and Gravity CT for 3 min and his CQC skills are atleast good enough run around and buy time.
Or swapping barrier conditions it's easier ways.
While Kenny's CQC feats are technically more impressive, I don't think Yuta isn't capable of competing with him in this regard, especially considering that he was able to fight Sukuna despite not being used to Gojo's body. And it would be mitigated by Yuta and Rika being overall faster. But I don't think this is much of a factor anyway because he prefers fighting with a sword and using Rika to overwhelm the opponent, or using copied cursed techniques. Also, I think Rika's very independent behavior is superior to the more animalistic behavior of Curses controlled by Kenny when it comes down to thatWell it depends on the conditions I guess but Yuta needs either Domain or 5-min mode to fight Kenny. He can't definitely CQC Kenny with his hands. If he goes for that he would get smoked by Compressed sneak Uzumaki for sure
Well I'm talking about time period.Even if he's not as skilled as Gojo at this, he still got free barrier knowledge from him. And I'm thinking that Yuta's tiny domain would last against an open domain domain with a comparable or inferior level of sheer output
Okay, this is where I completely disagree. There is no comparison between their speeds, especially when Yuta needed Todo's help to even blitz a weakened Kenny from the Takaba fight.I don't think trying to stall by running around is feasible when Yuta and Rika have greater raw speed than him,
Kenny has knowledge of cursed speech, so I would argue he would be on guard with CE reinforcement for his ears.and while Yuta's domain gives him access to techniques like Sky Manipulation, Cursed Speech, and that one Shikigami technique to limit Kenny's movements.
Wasn't Kenny outright stated to have higher grip strength? Also Yuki held back the Black hole to some extent her LS would be pretty higher than Yuta LS feats IIRC the calculationWhile his gravity CT is threatening, it's best feat is intimidating Yuki, who Yuta and Rika would have greater LS than at this point, and
6 sec and Mini sneak Uzumaki gonna cost Yuta though.it only lasts for 6 seconds at a time anyway
While I hate to break it to you, Sukuna only has one good arm, and Yuta's best feat was throwing him and trying to punch him in Gojo's body. We don't really know how many of Gojo's skills Yuta has, because Yuta was mostly taking in CT information from Gojo. So, I don't really see his CQC skills improving much.While Kenny's CQC feats are technically more impressive, I don't think Yuta isn't capable of competing with him in this regard, especially if him being able to fight Sukuna despite not being used to Gojo's body.
Well, Kenny would just dodge sword strikes with his skills and acrobatics. As for me, I was arguing from the scenario where Tengen keeps Rika busy with his barriers.But I don't think this is much of a factor anyway because he prefers fighting with a sword and using Rika to jump the opponent
Q5. Of Gojo, Megumi, Maki, Mai, Naobito, Naoya, Toji, Noritoshi, Noritoshi (Kenjaku), Geto (Kenjaku), what is the strength ranking in terms of hand-to-hand combat without cursed energy or weapons?
A. Ignoring Toji and Maki, Kenjaku and Gojo are about the same level. After that, it's Naoya > Fushiguro > Mai.
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Well I'm talking about time period.
Gojo's tiny domain was high level so it was lasting 3min IIRC
Okay, this is where I completely disagree. There is no comparison between their speeds, especially when Yuta needed Todo's help to even blitz a weakened Kenny from the Takaba fight.
It's safe to assume both has similar level speed.
Kenny has knowledge of cursed speech, so I would argue he would be on guard with CE reinforcement for his ears.
Sky manipulation is troubling. But don't know if it would be effective against gravity CT when even Yuki's Shikigami which ignored concepts got struck in it.
Kenny has his curses to buy time from Rika. We don't know how much time Rika took to clear all of Kenny's curses, who are on a rampage. Here, Kenny will be using his curses along with his IQ.
Also, what can Rika and Yuta do against the curse that manipulates the perception of others, as we saw in Shibuya?
Wasn't Kenny outright stated to have higher grip strength? Also Yuki held back the Black hole to some extent her LS would be pretty higher than Yuta LS feats IIRC the calculation
Yuki's shikigami was matching Kenny even when it was on low output while full output got struck in gravity CT. How would Yuta have higher lifting strength with these feats?
6 sec and Mini sneak Uzumaki gonna cost Yuta though.
While I hate to break it to you, Sukuna only has one good arm, and Yuta's best feat was throwing him and trying to punch him in Gojo's body. We don't really know how many of Gojo's skills Yuta has, because Yuta was mostly taking in CT information from Gojo. So, I don't really see his CQC skills improving much.
Well, Kenny would just dodge sword strikes with his skills and acrobatics. As for me, I was arguing from the scenario where Tengen keeps Rika busy with his barriers.
I'm saying that I don't see the argument for a compressed Mutual Love not lasting against a comparable domainWell I'm talking about time period.
Gojo's tiny domain was high level so it was lasting 3min IIRC
Yes, they have similar levels of speed. That being said, in terms of overall speed, it's accepted that Yuki scales to CG Yuta, and that Kenjaku scales to her. It's his vigilant reactions and perceptiveness that make him dangerous. He also set up surveillance systems, furthering the need to sneak up on him. They had to maximize their chance and avoid a drawn out fight because Yuta was needed to fight Sukuna. Now we've established the context that their sheer speed should have been pretty close before.Okay, this is where I completely disagree. There is no comparison between their speeds, especially when Yuta needed Todo's help to even blitz a weakened Kenny from the Takaba fight.
It's safe to assume both has similar level speed.
That's a feat for what it can bypass, or maybe just an antifeat for Garuda. Gravity itself should get bypassed by spatial manipulation. But the sheer amount of options, if used consecutively are going to be troubleKenny has knowledge of cursed speech, so I would argue he would be on guard with CE reinforcement for his ears.
Sky manipulation is troubling. But don't know if it would be effective against gravity CT when even Yuki's Shikigami which ignored concepts got struck in it.
Kenny has his curses to buy time from Rika. We don't know how much time Rika took to clear all of Kenny's curses, who are on a rampage. Here, Kenny will be using his curses along with his IQ.
Also, what can Rika and Yuta do against the curse that manipulates the perception of others, as we saw in Shibuya?
Kenjaku was stated to have higher grip strength without Cursed Energy than a crowd of people that very much did not include YutaWasn't Kenny outright stated to have higher grip strength? Also Yuki held back the Black hole to some extent her LS would be pretty higher than Yuta LS feats IIRC the calculation
Yuki's shikigami was matching Kenny even when it was on low output while full output got struck in gravity CT. How would Yuta have higher lifting strength with these feats?
Given what I established in my argument, I don't think this fight is favorable enough for Kenjaku to pull off an Uzumaki at the same time that Yuta is caught by the gravity field (especially since this version of Yuta should know about it). And Yuta should be able to redirect Uzumaki with Sky Manipulation. Now that's gonna cost Kenny6 sec and Mini sneak Uzumaki gonna cost Yuta though.
I don't think this is a factor but I'm doing this anywayWhile I hate to break it to you, Sukuna only has one good arm, and Yuta's best feat was throwing him and trying to punch him in Gojo's body. We don't really know how many of Gojo's skills Yuta has, because Yuta was mostly taking in CT information from Gojo. So, I don't really see his CQC skills improving much.
That's still a fairly generous idea under the more reasonable interpretation that he's directly facing two characters faster than him. Especially if it's fully manifested Rika. Unlike prior opponents, Rika can fly, and is gonna be attacking from an elevated position. While the acrobatics helps against a matchup like Yuki and Choso, it's gonna be far more difficult here. Partially manifested Rika can already press Sukuna. Fully manifested would therefore do great damage to Kenny.Well, Kenny would just dodge sword strikes with his skills and acrobatics. As for me, I was arguing from the scenario where Tengen keeps Rika busy with his barriers.
Funny thing Gege was scared to give Miguel even anti domain techniques.Top 3 of the verse:
Top 1 Miguel
Sukuna and Gojo were equal in skills. Gojo's domain only lasted for 3 min. So same thing should apply here if you say both are equalI'm saying that I don't see the argument for a compressed Mutual Love not lasting against a comparable domain
I'm pretty sure nowhere it was accepted Yuki and CG yuta has same speed. There was no comparison for speed as far as I rememberYes, they have similar levels of speed. That being said, in terms of overall speed, it's accepted that Yuki scales to CG Yuta, and that Kenjaku scales to her. It's his vigilant reactions and perceptiveness that make him dangerous. He also set up surveillance systems, furthering the need to sneak up on him. They had to maximize their chance and avoid a drawn out fight because Yuta was needed to fight Sukuna. Now we've established the context that their sheer speed should have been pretty close before.
Post-Gojo fight Sukuna was weaker than the version Ryu fought as even Cleave from Post-Gojo fight Sukuna is not capable of Killing Yuta despite Yuta's durability does not surpasses Ryu. There is no impressive speed feats from Yuta in Shinjuku.Yuta had gotten faster compared to his CG self—a level of overall speed that Kenjaku was at—to the point that he could keep up with post-Gojo fight Sukuna before he was nerfed even further. Just by upscaling from his previous self, he should be faster.
Or Kenny's gravity is just broken...That's a feat for what it can bypass, or maybe just an antifeat for Garuda. Gravity itself should get bypassed by spatial manipulation. But the sheer amount of options, if used consecutively are going to be trouble
After Takaba vs Kenny, which happened at the same time that Kashimo fought Sukuna and Jujutsu Tech pulled up, Yuta killed Kenny and fought off the Cursed Spirit rampage with Rika, and then was able to arrive immediately after Kogane arrived to announce the change of rules. It didn't seem to take very long. They very well could've just used cursed energy blasts to destroy a huge amount at once.
She is technically dumb? Even if she keeps spamming RCT what she is gonna do when centiped curses keep spamming on her. It would still seperate Yuta from Rika giving Kenny a edge.Rika's RCT output will be useful against Kenny's controlled use of Curses
He can just keeping spamming it enough to buy time. It's not like he absorbed that curse into Uzumaki. He should still have that.Not much to counteract that perception curse itself, but that seems more like a momentary distraction than anything
?Kenjaku was stated to have higher grip strength without Cursed Energy than a crowd of people that very much did not include Yuta
Q1. Of Gojo, Megumi, Maki, Mai, Naobito, Naoya, Toji, Noritoshi, Noritoshi (Kenjaku), and Geto (Kenjaku), who has the strongest grip strength?
A. Ignoring Toji and Maki, it's Kenjaku wearing Geto's body.
It's still considered as LS though?Yuki didn't literally hold back her black hole with LS, if that's what you're suggesting. She just suppressed it so it wouldn't destroy the world
I clearly mentioned the Garuda part which was after Yuki fully healed.Given Yuki after healing was still so weakened that Bombaye wasn't doing as much damage to Kenny as it should've, that was probably not a full strength Garuda. And again, Yuta and Rika have gotten stronger, thus they should be able to at least somewhat resist it should they get caught, if they get caught
It's only possible if Kenny uses Big Uzumaki.Given what I established in my argument, I don't think this fight is favorable enough for Kenjaku to pull off an Uzumaki at the same time that Yuta is caught by the gravity field (especially since this version of Yuta should know about it). And Yuta should be able to redirect Uzumaki with Sky Manipulation. Now that's gonna cost Kenny
I don't think this is a factor but I'm doing this anyway
Sukuna was using three arms. Even the stubs were actually being used against Yuta. I'm not saying Yuta is superior, but clearly he can't be counted out
That's still a fairly generous idea under the more reasonable interpretation that he's directly facing two characters faster than him. Especially if it's fully-manifested Rika. Unlike prior opponents, Rika can fly, and is gonna be attacking from an elevated position. While the acrobatics helps against a matchup like Yuki and Choso, it's gonna be far more difficult here
Well here goes CQC skill to Kenny. LMAO
Gonna be real I'm also tired. I'm stopping here. We can continue this if someone makes Kenny vs Yuta match after M3x revisions for Shinjuku Showdown.If there's another response, I ain't replying because I've already articulated my argument and holy shit I don't wanna keep formatting my replies to a spoiler tag
It's so tedious
No and it literally destroyed her body lmaoIt's still considered as LS though?
It destroyed her body after certain level of output but IIRC Kenny calculation included when She still has her half body intact.No and it literally destroyed her body lmao
Every calc I've seen regarding that scene has been either rejected or hasn't been evaluated (they'd probably get rejected too)It destroyed her body after certain level of output but IIRC Kenny calculation included when She still has her half body intact.
Every calc I've seen regarding that scene has been either rejected or unevaluated
Calculation comes from this feat. She was conscious and still had her body intact. Blackhole was already pulling Kenjaku in so she should have similar level LS to Kenny not let her body crushed by that force.Also Yuki was a Go/Jo'd body on the ground, she wasn't doing anything to resist her suicide move
RIP my argument for now then
Calculation comes from this feat. She was conscious and still had her body intact. Blackhole was already pulling Kenjaku in so she should have similar level LS to Kenny not let her body crushed by that force.