Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Noes]

Does the Sukuna's world-cutting (wsc) attack contain cursed energy?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Also… what’s the point of Gojuta? I mean, yeah, he came in clutch to save Itadori and Todo from Sukuna’s MS. But that’s just it?

Most characters have accomplished something: Kashimo made Sukuna use his transformation; Higuruma took away his Cursed Tool, Yuta massively nerfed him, Maki sliced his heart, Itadori consistently lowered his output… but what about Gojuta?

Everyone thought that Gojuta worked so Angel could hit Jacob’s Ladder, but that didn’t even work. What’s the point of having pages and pages of Yuta planning something just for it fail completely?

I think Gege wanted to kill Yuta to cause some impact.

I think he wanted to finally wank Yuji

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

He finally got it, boys! He's finally entered with the greats!

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Wonder if right now Yuji is categorized as special Grade

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Wonder if right now Yuji is categorized as special Grade

It's really hard to tell, honestly. I really feel it all depends on the amount of cursed energy output he has, cuz regardless of his techniques, if he doesn't have the same output as special grades like Yuki, Yuta and Geto, then they don't really mean too much. We just don't know because it's hard to scale Sukuna's weakened form or compare how much the JJK sorcerers grew during the month of training. Though I think in terms of techniques, he should be categorized as special grade. With black flash mastery, Shrine, Blood Manipulation, RCT, Simple Domain, and now Domain Expansion, only a handful of sorcerers now possess the ability to defeat him.

 

[KingTempest]

Yuji not taking down no nation

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Wonder if right now Yuji is categorized as special Grade

He is lol

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yuji gets a domain??? Sukuna getting cooked??? They're at the train station???

Bringing Yujikuna into afterwards is crazy. Also I wonder what type of sure hit Yuji implemented . Because I don't think he used cleave or dismantle because he wanted to save Megumi unless he changed his mind

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Yuji not taking down no nation

Only if he have Fuga/Open/divine flame and re-create Shibuya-nuke

 

[Sakamaki_Fuji]

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

It's really hard to tell, honestly. I really feel it all depends on the amount of cursed energy output he has, cuz regardless of his techniques, if he doesn't have the same output as special grades like Yuki, Yuta and Geto, then they don't really mean too much. We just don't know because it's hard to scale Sukuna's weakened form or compare how much the JJK sorcerers grew during the month of training. Though I think in terms of techniques, he should be categorized as special grade. With black flash mastery, Shrine, Blood Manipulation, and now Domain Expansion, only a handful of sorcerers now possess the ability to defeat him.

When we update his profile i will do 15 fingers Sukuna/Jujutsu kaisen 0 Geto vs Awaken Yuji

Yuji not taking down no nation

Wait, thinking this again, Yuji have Sukuna's potential, so he eventually will be Special grade anyway

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

When we update his profile i will do 15 fingers Sukuna/Jujutsu kaisen 0 Geto vs Awaken Yuji

15F Sukuna cooks anyone in the verse other than Gojo.

 

[Giannysmag]

Yuji not taking down no nation

He does

 

[Giannysmag]

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

15F Sukuna cooks anyone in the verse other than Gojo.

JK0 Geto would be more fair ?

This is the one with half army curses spirit btw

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Yuji not taking down no nation

He is definitely taking down Tuvalu

 

[Giannysmag]

He is definitely taking down Tuvalu

The Vatican watching Yuji destroy all 7 of their buildings in a few seconds

 

[JnSteHar002]

It's really hard to tell, honestly. I really feel it all depends on the amount of cursed energy output he has, cuz regardless of his techniques, if he doesn't have the same output as special grades like Yuki, Yuta and Geto, then they don't really mean too much. We just don't know because it's hard to scale Sukuna's weakened form or compare how much the JJK sorcerers grew during the month of training. Though I think in terms of techniques, he should be categorized as special grade. With black flash mastery, Shrine, Blood Manipulation, and now Domain Expansion, only a handful of sorcerers now possess the ability to defeat him.

I hear you. The constant notes of Sukuna being weakened does make any way to make a 100% definitive scale difficult, if not near impossible. If it helps, we have some statements implying the weakest Sukuna has gotten in this fight is around Ryu and/or Yuta's level and can still spam multiple DEs. Even then, Sukuna still has such a menace aura to him, you'd pretty much be a SG sorcerer to last as long as Yuji has, including some other characters. Maybe this needs its own thread.

I'd say that Yuji should be around SG sorcerer level, especially at this point.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

People are taking Kenjaku statement out of context. Yuki has no way of taking down a Nation (She can take down it with Black hole but I mean Higher ups didn't know her powers and all) still ranked her SG. Taking down nation statement shouldn't be taken at face value.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

JK0 Geto would be more fair ?

This is the one with half army curses spirit btw

Yuji blood is counter to all CS because he currently has Kamo clan Blood within him which is Poision to curses also DE should just smoke let's not forget how efficiently Yuji can use Cleave & Dismantle now. Also RCT & Better CQC skills than Geto arguably

 

[Sakamaki_Fuji]

His blood is probably poisonous to humans too

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Yuji blood is counter to all CE because he currently has Kamo clan Blood within him which is Poision to curses also DE should just smoke let's not forget how efficiently Yuji can use Cleave & Dismantle now. Also RCT & Better CQC skills than Geto arguably

His domain prolly will be his last option tbh

But yeah, maybe just full army Geto?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

His domain prolly will be his last option tbh

Well may be but he would still have that option in his bag

But yeah, maybe just full army Geto?

Full army of curses doesn't mean much especially Todo and Nanami were able to deal with Curses Geto had. his only chanse is Uzumaki but I can see it's getting dodged lol

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Yuji not taking down no nation

Those mfs were gonna make Yaga a special grade, Yuji isn't even debatable.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Btw I'm planning on updating Geto's profile with DE but it will be only Closed Barriers Domain. There is no need to assume that guy had Open barriers domain like Kenjaku. We do know Sukuna can close and open his domain. It's High likely Kenjaku used his own skills to modify Geto's domain into Open barriers.

 

[Arkenis]

People are taking Kenjaku statement out of context. Yuki has no way of taking down a Nation (She can take down it with Black hole but I mean Higher ups didn't know her powers and all) still ranked her SG. Taking down nation statement shouldn't be taken at face value.

Kenjaku explains what he meant by it, there's nothing to take out of context. And Yuki was likely made special grade off her intelligence. It's possible her word or her family's word on her ability was taken serious and she was just given sg, remember she was also a vessel in the past so I wouldn't put it past them to take her serious. There's different ways of taking down a country also, she doesn't need to fight the military the overthrow a country.

 

[KingTempest]

Those mfs were gonna make Yaga a special grade, Yuji isn't even debatable.

Cause Yaga... can take down a country... with a bunch of puppets overtime if he kept making more

Naobito is a grade 1. You wanna keep going?

 

[JnSteHar002]

People are taking Kenjaku statement out of context. Yuki has no way of taking down a Nation (She can take down it with Black hole but I mean Higher ups didn't know her powers and all) still ranked her SG. Taking down nation statement shouldn't be taken at face value.

I would describe that "nation" statement as vague and leaving ALOT of room for interpretation. There's more than one way to take down an entire country than w/a single attack that can completely destroy said country. It wouldn't even have to be a method of force or coercion; there capabilities could be considered so invaluable, the citizens and gov would just bend the knee.

Also, based on the statements/wording of it, the Black hole was made b/c Yuki condensed enough virtual mass comparable to that of Earth's into 2 cm diameter (roughly the size of a peanut) and there's no limit to the virtual mass she can add, nor will it affect her speed in anyway. Technically, her attacks can have an incredibly high output until she gets to the Black hole limit. Like, a basketball w/the mass of a moon or her arm having Pluto's mass, all while still moving at superhuman, if not, higher speeds. Yuki could take out a country in one strike.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Kenjaku explains what he meant by it, there's nothing to take out of context. And Yuki was likely made special grade off her intelligence. It's possible her word or her family's word on her ability was taken serious and she was just given sg, remember she was also a vessel in the past so I wouldn't put it past them to take her serious. There's different ways of taking down a country also, she doesn't need to fight the military the overthrow a country.

What family? She isn't even from any branches or anything from any Jujustu clans.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I would describe that "nation" statement as vague and leaving ALOT of room for interpretation. There's more than one way to take down an entire country than w/a single attack that can completely destroy said country. It wouldn't even have to be a method of force or coercion; there capabilities could be considered so invaluable, the citizens and gov would just bend the knee.

Also, based on the statements/wording of it, the Black hole was made b/c Yuki condensed enough virtual mass comparable to that of Earth's into 2 cm diameter (roughly the size of a peanut) and there's no limit to the virtual mass she can add, nor will it affect her speed in anyway. Technically, her attacks can have an incredibly high output until she gets to the Black hole limit. Like, a basketball w/the mass of a moon or her arm having Pluto's mass, all while still moving at superhuman, if not, higher speeds. Yuki could take out a country in one strike.

Bruh I already said she can even destroy the world but higher ups didn't had any information on her. Still gave her SG status.

Also I know there are different ways of taking down a Nation. So what is Yuji lacking when Yuta and Yuki has to Take down a nation?

 

[Giannysmag]

Naobito is a grade 1. You wanna keep going?

And Noabito is physically weaker than Yuji, he doesn't have a Domain, he doesn't have a technique with high destructive power and he doesn't have RCT

 

[Arkenis]

What family? She isn't even from any branches or anything from any Jujustu clans.

Tsukumo is her family name. I'm saying her family's word for some reason could have been taken seriously and granted her sg. And like I said, she's a vessel, I doubt her word wasn't taken serious.

 

[KingTempest]

And Noabito is physically weaker than Yuji, he doesn't have a Domain, he doesn't have a technique with high destructive power and he doesn't have RCT

Nothing you said warrants Special Grade sorcerer status, all it does is warrant "this is a strong sorcerer", which isn't enough to make em a Special Grade
With all that, Hakari would've been a special grade

 

[Giannysmag]

Nothing you said warrants Special Grade sorcerer status, all it does is warrant "this is a strong sorcerer", which isn't enough to make em a Special Grade

The qualification for special grade is overthrowing a country, which is vague as shit and can easily be something Yuji falls into. Someone as physically tuff as Yuji would be immune to any weapons a military could through at him aside from nukes. With Shrine + just raw physical strength he can cause a lot of structural damage and RCT means he can keep going for far longer than someone like Naobito. Yuta became a special grade simply because of how strong Rika was, no big armies, no AOE nuke just straight power and CE, it's really not far fetched for Yuji to also be there

With all that, Hakari would've been a special grade

Hakari dropped out of Jujutsu high an unknown amount of time ago and wasn't on good terms with the higher ups

 

[KingTempest]

The qualification for special grade is overthrowing a country, which is vague as shit and can easily be something Yuji falls into. Someone as physically strong as Yuji would be immune to any weapons a military could through at him aside from nukes. With Shrine + just raw physical strength he can cause a lot of structural damage and RCT means he can keep going for far longer than someone like Naobito. Yuta became a special grade simply because of how strong Rika was, no big armies, no AOE nuke just straight power and CE, it's really not far fetched for Yuji to also be there

Rika can overthrow a nation with her infinite CE and she scared Gojo.
So with that logic Todo can switch with any weapon they throw at him. Why ain't he special grade? Or Nanami and his ****** quakes? Or anyone else?

Hakari dropped out of Jujutsu high and wasn't on good terms with the higher ups

Geto was a curse user and waged war with the entire society of sorcery. Special Grade.

 

[Giannysmag]

Rika can overthrow a nation with her infinite CE

Her CE is finite, and aside from her big reserves all she's got is pure power

and she scared Gojo.

Irrelavent

So with that logic Todo can switch with any weapon they throw at him. Why ain't he special grade?

Because he doesn't have all the other shit I mentioned? Like Yuji's DC or survivability?

Or Nanami and his ****** quakes? Or anyone else?

You mean is magnitute 4 quakes that can barely be felt? The hell is this whataboutism

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Yuta and Itadori arent far from each other. Both have comparable stats, domain expansion, some CTs and so on. Idk why Itadori wouldn't be Special Grade at this point

 

[Giannysmag]

Yuta and Itadori arent far from each other. Both have comparable stats, domain expansion, some CTs and so on. Idk why Itadori wouldn't be Special Grade at this point

Literally this

 

[JnSteHar002]

Bruh I already said she can even destroy the world but higher ups didn't had any information on her. Still gave her SG status.

Also I know there are different ways of taking down a Nation. So what is Yuji lacking when Yuta and Yuki has to Take down a nation?

My bad; the wording of your post implied a lack of range in Yuki's output/capabilities. @Giannysmag has the second point.

The qualification for special grade is overthrowing a country, which is vague as shit and can easily be something Yuji falls into. Someone as physically tuff as Yuji would be immune to any weapons a military could through at him aside from nukes. With Shrine + just raw physical strength he can cause a lot of structural damage and RCT means he can keep going for far longer than someone like Naobito. Yuta became a special grade simply because of how strong Rika was, no big armies, no AOE nuke just straight power and CE, it's really not far fetched for Yuji to also be there

Couldn't agree more!

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Using only the statement of "taking down a nation" to determine who is Special Grade really doesnt work. We dont have a reference to what kind of country or anything.