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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

I don't remember saying anything about ego. I was talking about souls. The body has information, so having a soul or not shouldn't matter. Gojo didn't damage his soul with his CT burnout; he damaged his physical brain. So the body should also have the information. There is no need for the soul. Sorcerers' bodies and minds are slightly different from humans, so they can already store the CT in their physical bodies. The soul might have a copy of that. Yuta feeds someone else's body parts and can still copy the CT. It's not necessary or stated to be necessary to feed the soul of someone else.
 
I wanted to do Itadori vs all of the Kyoto school (outside of todo) during the class exhibition but we don't have profiles for them all together smh
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
I don't remember saying anything about ego
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Uh you do know that this is a topic about soul right?

EldemadeDityjon said:
I was talking about souls. The body has information, so having a soul or not shouldn't matter.
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What are you even talking about? I'm telling you that you can't equate HR to CT or even innate domain for that matter. Innate domain isn't merely physical body information. Quite different.


EldemadeDityjon said:
Gojo didn't damage his soul with his CT burnout; he damaged his physical brain. So the body should also have the information.
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Fun fact: THE soul does have CT. Hence why Sukuna's CT can manifest in a vessel's body despite he himself being just a soul.
Or even how Yuta can use Gojo's CT despite his brain not being there.
No matter how you slice it or dice it - Body = Soul in JJK. It's why Yaga is capable of getting soul information from physical information and vice versa. Or how Yaga can revive Toji who is dead and has passed on just from his physical information alone.

One of Yuji's traits and relation to Sukuna, especially his ability to have his CT also comes from being the son of Sukuna's twin's soul. For him to gain traits related to Sukuna could only be possible through if Jin carried the same body information that he had in his previous life.

Moving on.
EldemadeDityjon said:
Sorcerers' bodies and minds are slightly different from humans, so they can already store the CT in their physical bodies. The soul might have a copy of that. Yuta feeds someone else's body parts and can still copy the CT. It's not necessary or stated to be necessary to feed the soul of someone else.
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That's kinda irrelevant really. Innate domain is where your soul resides in. Precisely this is where Sukuna is as a soul and is also where Yuji went after he died.
Megumi is also in that space too as a soul.
Rest of the stuff you said doesn't really seem to address what I'm saying so I'll ignore that.
By the way. Keep this in the mind since you seem so keen on trying to ignore it - Gojo looked at Kenny and saw Geto's soul. Had the same CE, etc. Then Gojo tries to rouse geto awake, this surprises Kenjaku and makes him talk about how the host's memories can even pop in his head when their brain is replaced - or how this situation just happened.

Sukuna, who sees the contours of souls, really thought he was Gojo (Chapter 261), just like what happened with Gojo seeing Kenjaku in Shibuya, and only later realized that it was Yuta behind it because of the stitches on his forehead.
Sakamaki_Fuji said:
No its not. Haibara mentioned how he butted into Nanami's death which we saw happen and it's impossible that Nanami could've told anyone about seeing Haibara because we literally saw his last words.
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Yes it is. We've seen multiple examples already. Pretending otherwise is just being disingenuous. Mai and Maki case remember? Where do you think that shore comes from 😭 I guarantee you the afterlife or the like does not have that ability whatsoever. But we do know innate domains do. Just like how Sukuna's appearance changed even due to residing in a vessel's body when he's inside the innate domain. Blud even has a kimono and all that bruh
Then we have the Jogo example. In that innate domain of his Sukuna suddenly pops in.

We see this happen AGAIN. With Nobara particularly where her mindscape drifts through different stuff and memories and conjuring up shi about the others being there.
Then we have the Kashimo situation. He was also in the same predicament - Dude went from young to old to young. Takaba also went through a similar stuff even. Do you even realise as to how innate domains function as a mindscape dude? Because this is quite clearly a mindscape that gojo was in.

As for your counter point - Haibara being there doesn't contradict anything. We know that souls can hop in your innate domain lol. The scenes I mentioned above quite qualify as such even. Mf maki does this shit even the second time after she gains enlightenment 🗿. Where she is talking to Mai.

Infact you should be asking yourself why Gojo's in his younger self in the airport scene. Quite precisely from his HI arc self. In that arc, after awakening, gojo was honing his DE at that time. Which would be one of the reasons as to why he looked like that. Infact his innate mind reflecting itself for him to look like that makes more sense if you look at the raws.
Gojo used 俺 (ore/I) in the beginning of ch236 like he did in his student days. After growing up, he would stop using that and use 僕 (boku/I)
 
CBslayeR said:
Mai and broom girl are missing based on the verse page


plus i think we need a team page to have that kind of thread get added
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Hmm, we could actually get some pretty solid teams out of JJK.

Disaster Curses
Kyoto School
Tokyo Metropolitan School
I guess the group currently fighting Sukuna would fall under Jujutsu High or something I think is what Kenjaku called them
 
Duedate8898 said:
Hmm, we could actually get some pretty solid teams out of JJK.

Disaster Curses
Kyoto School
Tokyo Metropolitan School
I guess the group currently fighting Sukuna would fall under Jujutsu High or something I think is what Kenjaku called them
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tbh yeah


we basically can pick and choose who fights with who on those team profiles for matches too, they're all trained to fight together and most of the combinations have screen time working with each other, we can even add Gojo if we really wanted to because having him be limited as to not injure his students could be interesting in threads
 
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If only Yuta actually acts responsibly here, they could have prevented Sukuna from taking over Megumi and my glorious blue-eyed king would still be alive....
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Uh you do know that this is a topic about soul right?


What are you even talking about? I'm telling you that you can't equate HR to CT or even innate domain for that matter. Innate domain isn't merely physical body information. Quite different.



Fun fact: THE soul does have CT. Hence why Sukuna's CT can manifest in a vessel's body despite he himself being just a soul.
Or even how Yuta can use Gojo's CT despite his brain not being there.
No matter how you slice it or dice it - Body = Soul in JJK. It's why Yaga is capable of getting soul information from physical information and vice versa. Or how Yaga can revive Toji who is dead and has passed on just from his physical information alone.

One of Yuji's traits and relation to Sukuna, especially his ability to have his CT also comes from being the son of Sukuna's twin's soul. For him to gain traits related to Sukuna could only be possible through if Jin carried the same body information that he had in his previous life.

Moving on.

That's kinda irrelevant really. Innate domain is where your soul resides in. Precisely this is where Sukuna is as a soul and is also where Yuji went after he died.
Megumi is also in that space too as a soul.
Rest of the stuff you said doesn't really seem to address what I'm saying so I'll ignore that.
By the way. Keep this in the mind since you seem so keen on trying to ignore it - Gojo looked at Kenny and saw Geto's soul. Had the same CE, etc. Then Gojo tries to rouse geto awake, this surprises Kenjaku and makes him talk about how the host's memories can even pop in his head when their brain is replaced - or how this situation just happened.

Sukuna, who sees the contours of souls, really thought he was Gojo (Chapter 261), just like what happened with Gojo seeing Kenjaku in Shibuya, and only later realized that it was Yuta behind it because of the stitches on his forehead.

Yes it is. We've seen multiple examples already. Pretending otherwise is just being disingenuous. Mai and Maki case remember? Where do you think that shore comes from 😭 I guarantee you the afterlife or the like does not have that ability whatsoever. But we do know innate domains do. Just like how Sukuna's appearance changed even due to residing in a vessel's body when he's inside the innate domain. Blud even has a kimono and all that bruh
Then we have the Jogo example. In that innate domain of his Sukuna suddenly pops in.

We see this happen AGAIN. With Nobara particularly where her mindscape drifts through different stuff and memories and conjuring up shi about the others being there.
Then we have the Kashimo situation. He was also in the same predicament - Dude went from young to old to young. Takaba also went through a similar stuff even. Do you even realise as to how innate domains function as a mindscape dude? Because this is quite clearly a mindscape that gojo was in.

As for your counter point - Haibara being there doesn't contradict anything. We know that souls can hop in your innate domain lol. The scenes I mentioned above quite qualify as such even. Mf maki does this shit even the second time after she gains enlightenment 🗿. Where she is talking to Mai.

Infact you should be asking yourself why Gojo's in his younger self in the airport scene. Quite precisely from his HI arc self. In that arc, after awakening, gojo was honing his DE at that time. Which would be one of the reasons as to why he looked like that. Infact his innate mind reflecting itself for him to look like that makes more sense if you look at the raws.
Gojo used 俺 (ore/I) in the beginning of ch236 like he did in his student days. After growing up, he would stop using that and use 僕 (boku/I)
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You are sidestepping at this point. 99% of what you are saying has nothing to do with Kenjaku suppressing Geto's soul or Current Gota having Gojo's soul. Just send the one scan where it was stated that either of them had two different souls in them. Otherwise, I'm not considering your words, even if you spam 100 paragraphs.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
You are sidestepping at this point. 99% of what you are saying has nothing to do with Kenjaku suppressing Geto's soul or Current Gota having Gojo's soul. Just send the one scan where it was stated that either of them had two different souls in them. Otherwise, I'm not considering your words, even if you spam 100 paragraphs.
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I'm not. What you're doing is actually side stepping the evidence I brought up.
It is said that there is will left in Geto's body but not much. This is quite literally geto himself being alive but suppressed. Why else do you think geto ******* reacted? And why else did Kenjaku go "yo this phenomenon happening means body = soul"? Think deeper Elde.
Mindscape can't be replicated just because of body information either. Saying it is, is wrong. It is a mindscape. Do you need a full explanation on wtf a mindscape is even? Yuta quite evidently has a different mindscape than Gojo's. The only way this would make sense if the person that has this mindscape exists in that body originally. Hence why I told you that Kenny might be controlling the soul-body. It's like taking control of who gets to direct the main consciousness of the body. Something like that. Simply because why else would it be Geto's CE, geto himself and his soul that Gojo sees?

>> 俺達は全身全霊で世界に存在しているTODO: We all exist... with our entire heart(mind), body, and soul. 当たり前過ぎて皆忘れてしまったことだ TODO: It's so obvious that nobody thinks about it anymore.
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(GW arc)
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
I'm not. What you're doing is actually side stepping the evidence I brought up.
It is said that there is will left in Geto's body but not much. This is quite literally geto himself being alive but suppressed. Why else do you think geto ******* reacted? And why else did Kenjaku go "yo this phenomenon happening means body = soul"? Think deeper Elde.
Mindscape can't be replicated just because of body information either. Saying it is, is wrong. It is a mindscape. Do you need a full explanation on wtf a mindscape is even? Yuta quite evidently has a different mindscape than Gojo's. The only way this would make sense if the person that has this mindscape exists in that body originally. Hence why I told you that Kenny might be controlling the soul-body. It's like taking control of who gets to direct the main consciousness of the body. Something like that. Simply because why else would it be Geto's CE, geto himself and his soul that Gojo sees?
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Will ≠ Soul.
dictionary.cambridge.org

will

1. used to talk about what is going to happen in the future, especially things…
dictionary.cambridge.org dictionary.cambridge.org

We already got the answer from Gege why Geto hand was moved. You are just equating Will = Soul without any evidence.

Kenny is only occupying Physical body of Geto. Neither Kenny nor Yuta states anything about having a different souls inside of them
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
(GW arc)
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Funny enough It's clearly distinguished between Body and soul. I don't know what you were trying to do with that scan
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Will ≠ Soul.
dictionary.cambridge.org

will

1. used to talk about what is going to happen in the future, especially things…
dictionary.cambridge.org dictionary.cambridge.org
We already got the answer from Gege why Geto hand was moved. You are just equating Will = Soul without any evidence.
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Lol. Using English dictionary for Japanese is so funny 😂
Whenever jjk mentions will, self or ego in reference to incarnated sorcerers and the like - They mention will, self or ego.
Do you even know what will means in JJK or did you just reply without thinking at all? We have the body. The mind or otherwise known as the heart and then the soul, which is responsible for the control of the body. Like how Sukuna is controlling Megumi's body. Please don't ever use mid English dictionary for a Japanese Manga JJK. Use a Japanese dictionary if you're even gonna attempt to pick at the definition of words used here.
Can you tell me why Kenjaku says the memories still flow into him despite not having his brain. And why that particular happening, alongside Geto reacting to Gojo's words - To where he can understand that somebody is using his body - and then try to choke himself to kill Kenjaku? Why did these two things make him go body = soul and why can't gojo see that the soul there is Geto himself alongside his CE?

If you stop to think for a second the answer is obvious but ofc you're not thinking. So not much to say here.


EldemadeDityjon said:
Kenny is only occupying Physical body of Geto. Neither Kenny nor Yuta states anything about having a different souls inside of them
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Ye and yet Kenjaku says body = soul and yet you can gain memories without the original brain. Do you seriously need this obvious fact to be pointed out?
Sukuna thought he saw gojo even despite his ability to see the contours of the soul 😭 it's only when he saw Kenjaku's CT that he understood. Think deeper.

I guarantee you this shi is not hard.
 
Gun I'm not getting into your Buddhism arguments(even if it's not Buddhism but your own interpretation). I would rather go with dictionary.
 
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