When Sukuna and Gojo's outputs were shot late into their battle, Sukuna makes note of the fact that a normal output Purple would be fatal for him at that distance due to his weakened state, implying it wouldn't necessarily be fatal otherwise. They only ever use the word output within this sequence of events, never specifically using the word reinforcement. Obviously output and reinforcement aren't related necessarily, but it typically seems to be the case as far as I can tell
I think it's more related to efficiency, since Yuta has nigh unlimited CE he doesn't care that much about spending it. His output was complimented a few times.
How does this answer my question? Nanami has scaling above Todo and Yuji during Goodwill and then has a statement for being comparable to Yuji in Shibuya. That's more than anything Kusakabe has in statements or feats.
I only remember Ryu saying its not bad, what were the other times?
Ryu is a great case for output and reinforcement being related as Sukuna notes how Yuta and Yuji aren't tougher than him. Ryu has the greatest output of all the culling games players, that's his most notable feature.
Ok, so he does make mention of his reinforcement. However, it also moves into him saying that it's not in perfect shape rn, which is when their outputs are shot. I took that as output and reinforcement scaling proportionately at least. That's just me
When the narrator says it's only slightly below Ryu's who has the highest of all.
Y'know, Yuta vs Ryu was a dynamic of reinforcement vs output. There was something cool going on there. But no, apparently Ryu might be tougher
Mei Mei compares Yuji to Kuskabe as well in Shibuya. And he blocks an Uzumaki from Kenjaku, that's a pretty good feat
That might have been through Simple Domain given his stance icl
Nvm. I checked. He wasn't using the Simple Domain stance
reinforcement is how much you're amplifying your body with CE, so Kusakabe's sword swings would be included. Reinforcement isn't exclusive to output.
That was for how good of a sorcerer he was, Yuji fought a Semi Grade 1 curse during that as well. And again Reinforcement and Output just aren't equal and Kusakabe never shows this even then.
I think though, that reinforcement is overall higher for most sorcerers. I'm mostly just taking issue with the idea output and reinforcement are relative when they don't seem to be. Ryu tanking dismantle yet GB isn't strong enough to harm Yuta like dismantle did to Ryu, or the fact Yuji and Yuta reinforcement is below Ryu's and their output is below their reinforcement.
But it clearly is used like that? They talk about reinforcement as defense, not offense. Would you say Yuji's output is now equal to Yuta's?
when has reinforcement ever been used in a way that's excluding one's offensive ability? Reinforcement doesn't exclude output, nor is it equal to output, reinforcement is, as the word implies, your REINFORCEMENT of one's body with CE, output is the more generalised notion of how much CE you can put into something at any given point.
When Yuta's body is reinforced by his curse energy and Ryu says its like punching a water tank. I guess though Yuji does relate power to reinforcement when talking about Yuta doing it, but these examples just seem out of place. You would agree though output is more about how strong one's strikes or ct is?
How good a sorcerer you are also includes your strength and durability, and Yuji distinctly lacks anything but his strength, durability and tactical mine at this moment. And as Kusakabe only has Simple Domain over Yuji at this point, I don't see why it wouldn't be logic to say that Mei Mei is putting their general abilities against one another.
Before his awakening, no. But he's comparable to Ryu by the sheer fact that Yuji is able to fight alongside Yuta and draw blood the same as him.
Well because Kusakabe's ranking comes from his knowledge and versatility as a sorcerer not his strength and durability.
Idk, output is the ce they release when attacking rather than the energy inside them to reinforce themselves. I think its more a mechanic thing and the fact its their own ce that makes it not hurt them rather than they just scale to their own strikes due to that.
Maybe? But lets be real, Yuji overall didn't draw blood from his punches, that shows Yuji's output is far below his reinforcement of his body than relative.
His strength and durability are absolutely a factor though, Grade 1s are expected to eliminate special grade curses. Him lacking in strength or durability would absoultely bar him from such a status, especially when he doesn't even have a curse techinque.
Output isn't just for attacks though.
Chapter 251, as soon as Yuji lands a direct hit he draws blood. He even bruises Sukuna's face with a knee. He wasn't drawing blood beforehand, because he was just getting blocked all the other times.
I remember previous chapter Gojo scolding about Yuta's CE efficiency or control.
Special Grade curses aren't powerful in the series generally speaking. We know second grades and semi first grades sorcerers are able to defeat them, one doesn't need good strength for them, specially when the sorcerer has a simple domain that boosts his output and decreases ct. And Mei Mei, Nanami and Gojo are clear Kusakabe's ability to win fights is sheerly from his knowledge and his simple domain, not his strength or durability.
Generally speaking it is. Almost every time output is mentioned, its talking about power.
Harming someone when they aren't blocking isn't a good feat. Kinda par for the course when your opponents getting jumped.
yea output is definitely a bigger factor for CT, idk about strikes. Yuta's reinforcement making him durable doesn't mean it's exclusively about defence, especially when you just named an example where it's not the case.
Semi-Grade 1 sneak
What? What do you mean Special Grade curses aren't powerful in the series generally speaking? The weakest special grade curses we encounter are finger bearer's, and a grade 2 sorcerer like Megumi was unable to do anything against it. They're special grade explicitly for their strength, there's no special grade cursed spirit who isn't a physical threat we ever bear witness to in the series. And when the others are complimenting Kusakabe, yes Mei Mei mentions they're stronger, but Nanami also says he can't imagine anyone who can withstand the onslaught of attacks from Kusakabe in his simple domain (which would rely on his strength).
Power in the sense of how much cursed energy goes into something not just for attacks. Such as RCT output or curse techinques in general (which aren't all about attacking, like Utahime's). Reinforcement has to be covered under output because it is a form of output as you're literally releasing energy to coat your body and protect it.
It is when you literally use a magical energy to defend yourself that doesn't rely on you blocking. As seen by the likes of Nanami, when dealing with Haruta, or when Todo blocks Mahito's black flash, or when Hakari blocks kashimo's final explosion.
Oh shit. I didn't even realize he said second grade sorcerers can defeat special grade curses. Tf?
FB aren't the weaker special grades at all. Yeah I'm talking about Kusakabe outside of domain this whole time.
It's still power though, and I'm talking about strikes or offensive ct.
What does this have to do with what I said? Todo put all his ce into one point, that is reinforcement, Hakari put moved the ce to the rest of the body to strengthen it, that is reinforcement. If me using blocking was taken as throwing up your arms then my mistake, they block in other ways yeah but Sukuna isn't shown to do that in the instance we're talking about.
Okay... idk why you guys single out one thing I say. I said second and semi can, not just a second grade alone.
please.Not downplaying. You just ignore the fact his feats are against a Sukuna who isn't impressed by him and is also having his output lowered, if anything this lessens everyone's feats since Yuji stepped in. Everyone seems to forget this part of the plan and also thinks it makes Yuji op, don't get where this came from.Arkenis is still keeps downplaying Yuji?
schizophrenia
Probably just about 10 fingers.
