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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

LIGHTYW said:
It should be considerably faster" Says who? Tell me a single reason why It should, its litrrally made from choso lmao
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Says Gege
LIGHTYW said:
Bro.. sukuna was literally about to cleave yujis chest but then he gets blitzed by PB and that made him drop yuji, he doesnt react to the PB at all
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Do you even know what "blitz" means you spam that thing here & there without realising what you are talking about.
LIGHTYW said:
He still outscales yuji in every aspect of speed, not to mention that kashimo literaly dodges WCS who cuts through his emwaves...
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When Sukuna was telling him to dodge* & Kashimo has X ray vision
Yeah Maki also dodges it when she can see it.
It ain't a lot. You can dodge it if you can see it.
LIGHTYW said:
And i dont see why you think yuji is somehow doing the same things that sukuna does, chap 238
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Because Yuji is HIM
LIGHTYW said:
sukuna is massively above yuji, and sukuna is capable of aimdodging the emwaves only because he can foresee the sparks of CE..
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Yuji is still one of the best CQC fighters in the verse he has enough skills to dodge some bullshit like that.
 
Arkenis said:
Would Shinjuku Yuji win in the same situation Yuta was in against Uro and Ryu?
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He has the proper strength to match them like Yuta but he’s also less versatile, can’t make the fight a 2v2 (doesn’t have Rika), and if they do a domain clash his domain probably won’t be able to match the others. Also Uro kinda hard counters
 
Probably not. Ryu overwhelms him with range gameplay while Uro is straight up untouchable. Once they go for the DE it's over for him.

He can't output positive CE either so once the cockroach jumps in he will be stuck against it.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Why are you setting him up like that he obviously gets cooked tf
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If its just cause you think Yuki hard counters then I can see that. But if not, then I don't see how he gets cooked. He's gonna cause Yuki to use RCT constantly or she'll end up a mess and have her output lowered in her ct. And Choso has no rct or simple domain so if Yuji does pop domain he'll be shredded by it.
 
Arkenis said:
Would Shinjuku Yuji win in the same situation Yuta was in against Uro and Ryu?
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Depending on what kind of situation you are proposing. Is this Yuji vs Ryu and Uro team up. Or three way fight?
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
He has the proper strength to match them like Yuta but he’s also less versatile, can’t make the fight a 2v2 (doesn’t have Rika), and if they do a domain clash his domain probably won’t be able to match the others. Also Uro kinda hard counters
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What's stopping Yuji from outlasting Uro's Stamina?
Not to mention he has SD Strong enough to survive Sukuna's domain even if he loses Domain clash hypothetically.
@Giannysmag already pointed out the fact about Yuji may have decent barrier skills which can help him against featless domains like Uro and Ryu. Let's just ignore this for now

NGL acting like Yuji cant outlast these featless domain with his SD is just one hell of an downplay. Not to mention Uro gets cooked the moment her domain time runs out and she gets CT burn out.

Anyway if it's 1 vs 2 ignore the above comment. Otherwise one on one Yuji should smoke either of them.
 
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Sakamaki_Fuji said:
Sukuna is the only reincarnated sorcerer that Yuji doesnt beat
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When Yuji haters start arguing, they ignore his stamina, RCT, and SD. Not to mention 70-80% of the verse gets poisoned if they engaged him in CQC. Hakari, Yuta and Sukuna are the only ones who actually shown feats RCT filtering Poison. Death paintings & Kenny are immune to blood poison because of experimental bullshit. Don't see why others surviving it(except Takaba)

Like, every time they bring up that he would lose a domain clash. Why should it matter when he can survive inside Sukuna's domain at full power for around 99 seconds? He can just activate SD again like Gojo does. There isn’t any domain deadlier than a sure-hit with Cleave (except UV).
 
SS Yuji has the same durability as SS Yuta who’s more durable than his Sendai self, so he should be able to survive the 2v1 that was happening at the beginning. And he should also be able to keep his RCT going like Yuta did.

The thing about trying to stall Uro is that she can just keep her distance with her flight and getting some rest. As long as she has CE, Yuji is not touching her.

Get mad but I believe Ryu has more stats than Yuji considering he has more dura and shouldn’t be a stonewall with much higher durability. But Yuji would eventually decrease his output so much that the “Greatest output of the Culling Game” would be reduced to Finger Bearer level output.

Following the same script all Domains are useless because they all would break. Uro getting CT burnout is a death sentence and it wouldn’t matter to Ryu. Yuji would eventually win because Ryu wouldn’t be able to maintain a close quarters combat due to soul punches, and his only chance would be ranges combat. If Yuta could close the distance so can Yuji.

So:

Straight 2v1: Yuji loses

Same script: Yuji wins as he hard counters Ryu.
 
As for Yuji replacing Kenjaku and fighting Yuki and Choso together:

Yuji shouldn’t know about Yuki’s CT, while Choso would eventually figure that Yuji is using BM and would try to counter that.

Not gonna lie, there is a real possibility that Choso gets obliterated in the first punch he gets from Yuji. I can see him surviving with FRSR but that’s it.

The thing about this fight is that if Yuji tries to eat a full power Star Rage punch he dies. If he doesn’t manage to damage Yuki at the same level as Kenjaku’s DE, Star Rage will be at 100% all the time and basically every punch has a one shot capability.

Yuki Vs Yuji is already a tough battle to him but add Choso as a support using Piercing Blood to catch him off guard and then you have him losing more than he wins this fight.
 
Arkenis said:
No Kuro interfering, no Dhruv, just Yuji vs Ryu and Uro.
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Yeah but would he start in the same position as Yuta? Take the same hits as Yuta? Deal the same hits as Yuta?

Joking. He would eventually beat Ryu due to soul punches but I don’t agree with this idea of Yuji outlasting Uro. She has far more better mobility and Yuji does not have the range to hit her. I’d say it’s more inconclusive.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Yeah but would he start in the same position as Yuta? Take the same hits as Yuta? Deal the same hits as Yuta?

Joking. He would eventually beat Ryu due to soul punches but I don’t agree with this idea of Yuji outlasting Uro. She has far more better mobility and Yuji does not have the range to hit her. I’d say it’s more inconclusive.
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Honestly I don't think the soul punches matter with Ryu, his output can't be lowered since he is always outputing the same output regardless of ct. And even if it was, Ryu would opt to firing gb from afar like he did and just sneak Yuji and Uro when they fight.
 
Arkenis said:
Honestly I don't see why the soul punches matter with Ryu, his output can't be lowered since he is always outputing the same output regardless of ct. And even if it was, Ryu would opt to firing gb from afar like he did and just sneak Yuji and Uro when they fight.
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Mf think about what you said. His general output is getting lowered. He will output the same lowered output on his CT and regular CE beams.

If Yuta closed the range between them with physicals alone then Yuji would do the same.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Mf think about what you said. His general output is getting lowered. He will output the same lowered output on his CT and regular CE beams.

If Yuta closed the range between them with physicals alone then Yuji would do the same.
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Nah, Ryu's output is the same no matter what, when sorcerers can't use their ct their ce control is weakened yet after domain Ryu still was outputting the same. And I brought this up to Gianny before, but Angel tells us the reincarnated destroyed their vessels consciousness so Yuji's punches may have little affect meanwhile. And Yuta was able to close the distance because Ryu was fine with it, Ryu wasn't actively trying to avoid close combat, he'd do that here when he realizes it.
 
Sorry man I won’t keep this going. You’re clearing misinterpreting Ryu’s output statement.

He is getting his output lowered because he isn’t immune to that. The output of his CE beams and CT will be the same. If it’s 10 for each, and gets lowered by 4, it’s 6 for both.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Check Kamo page. Don't ask me why kamo and Choso has same blood because of Some Lobotomy kaisen agenda
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Kamo's blood is poisonous to cursed spirits because its human blood. Choso's is poisonous because he's half cursed spirit. It's different reasons is all, but I guess Choso may be poisonous to both since he's both.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
What's stopping Yuji from outlasting Uro's Stamina?
Not to mention he has SD Strong enough to survive Sukuna's domain even if he loses Domain clash hypothetically.
@Giannysmag already pointed out the fact about Yuji may have decent barrier skills which can help him against featless domains like Uro and Ryu. Let's just ignore this for now

NGL acting like Yuji cant outlast these featless domain with his SD is just one hell of an downplay. Not to mention Uro gets cooked the moment her domain time runs out and she gets CT burn out.

Anyway if it's 1 vs 2 ignore the above comment. Otherwise one on one Yuji should smoke either of them.
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Because there's nothing to imply that Uro has poor stamina and can't just stall while hard countering him without domain. Yuji is a hand to hand fighter against Uro who can just deflect all of Yuji's attacks and spam thin ice breaker. If she's ever running out she can literally just fly and stall and Yuji doesn't really have a way to get her. She literally just hard counters him and he doesn't have a way to really hit her outside of CT burnout.

Anyways I initially thought it was a 2v1 but since it's been clarified its a free for all yeah Yuji should win. He should be able to tank a few granite blasts to get close to Ryu then soul dismantle him. He'll probably realize after a bit that he can't hit Uro like he did with Sukuna, pops his domain which probably gets broken or overtaken cause its unrefined (If her domain can clash with Yuta's and Ryu's it should roughly be on the same level), Yuji just tanks with simple domain and stalls til she can't maintain it anymore then he one shots her
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Because there's nothing to imply that Uro has poor stamina and can't just stall while hard countering him without domain. Yuji is a hand to hand fighter against Uro who can just deflect all of Yuji's attacks and spam thin ice breaker. If she's ever running out she can literally just fly and stall and Yuji doesn't really have a way to get her. She literally just hard counters him and he doesn't have a way to really hit her outside of CT burnout.

Anyways I initially thought it was a 2v1 but since it's been clarified its a free for all yeah Yuji should win. He should be able to tank a few granite blasts to get close to Ryu then soul dismantle him. He'll probably realize after a bit that he can't hit Uro like he did with Sukuna, pops his domain which probably gets broken or overtaken cause its unrefined (If her domain can clash with Yuta's and Ryu's it should roughly be on the same level), Yuji just tanks with simple domain and stalls til she can't maintain it anymore then he one shots her
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I do actually think that Yuji's Domain refinement would probably be higher than Uro's or Ryu's. He's got Kusakabe skill to rely on, who I do believe is the undisputed king of Simple Domains, and I said this a while ago, but Yuji treats his domain like an Empty Domain, same as Kenjaku and Tengen. While his refinement might not be as good as Yuta's end of series (since he got training with Gojo's body), Yuji does have all the ingredients in place to sit above a good chunk of others in terms of domain expansion
 
Duedate8898 said:
I do actually think that Yuji's Domain refinement would probably be higher than Uro's or Ryu's. He's got Kusakabe skill to rely on, who I do believe is the undisputed king of Simple Domains, and I said this a while ago, but Yuji treats his domain like an Empty Domain, same as Kenjaku and Tengen. While his refinement might not be as good as Yuta's end of series (since he got training with Gojo's body), Yuji does have all the ingredients in place to sit above a good chunk of others in terms of domain expansion
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Thing is it was said that he learned the basics of barrier techniques from Kusakabe, so while yeah Kusakabe is one of the best barrier users I'm not entirely sure if he would have that great of refinement. That and he's new to domains
 
If Yuji's domain breaks in a clash I don't see him surviving
Gojo and Sukuna were only ever able to survive that long cause they were Gojo and Sukuna
Against Sukuna, Yuji just had to sit there and maintain his SD.
There would be no reason for Uro to stand back and watch him in SD instead of just beating him up alongside her domain's sure-hit eating away at his SD.
During which he wouldn't be able to manipulate his CE enough to regenerate with RCT
 
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