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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

UV infos aren't infinite, they are just continuous 😐
Ye they are infinite.

i still stand by the fact that a lot of those guys have no idea how speed works
your reasoning is literally just "if they don't travel around in regions, continents or out in the space to the moon and then back to earth, they're not mhs/mhs+, rel, rel+ or speed of light or ftl" like be serious 😭
And we talking about combat speed too btw. U straight up think any speed category needs to fulfill ur fanfiction rules.
 
your reasoning is literally just "if they don't travel around in regions, continents or out in the space to the moon and then back to earth, they're not mhs/mhs+, rel, rel+ or speed of light or ftl" like be serious 😭
no, it was speed = distance/time, my reasoning was, and read carefully, that in that 41 seconds, the distance they crossed isn't several tens of thousands of kms, but a couple hundred meters at best, they didn't exchanges thousands of blows, but 10 at most, so, and get this, based on extremely basic formulas, they're not mach 500

see how easy that is?
"if they don't travel around in regions, continents or out in the space to the moon and then back to earth, they're not mhs/mhs+, rel, rel+ or speed of light or ftl
no, i will go slowly, what i said is, in a 41 seconds time frame, if a character can't cross distances that big, he, by extension, of the S=T/D formula, isn't FTL

mindblowing i know, but, what it also means is, how we get speed, is how much distance a character can cross in specific time frames, moving your limbs also counts, as you're moving them from point A to point B in a specific time frame thus crossing a distance, assuming said distance is 1,4 meters per punch, a mach 500 character can throw 122 500 punches in a single second

gojo and sukuna, very visibly, did not exchange that many blows, get it? they only exchanged a couple dozen at best

so, that means, they're not that fast, easy to understand if you could just read

And we talking about combat speed too btw. U straight up think any speed category needs to fulfill ur fanfiction rules.
by fanfictin rules, do you perhaps mean the laws of physics?

i'm flattered, but i'm not smart enough to discover those, i can only try to learn them


it feels weird having to explain basic shit to people, but if you don't get it even now may god help you because i can't
 
Half of the above comment is "It doesnt vibe that speed"
i feel like i wasted my time

it's not it doesn't vibe with that speed ,it literally just isn't

how do you all even detrmine speed?

tell me these secret techniques because i can't find them, spefically also tell me what's wrong with my post so i could learn 2
 
i feel like i wasted my time

it's not it doesn't vibe with that speed ,it literally just isn't

how do you all even detrmine speed?

tell me these secret techniques because i can't find them, spefically also tell me what's wrong with my post so i could learn 2
One of your arguments was literally

"gojo and sukuna, very visibly, did not exchange that many blows, get it? they only exchanged a couple dozen at best"

The heck is that
Is Goku average human or something
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One of your arguments was literally

"gojo and sukuna, very visibly, did not exchange that many blows, get it? they only exchanged a couple dozen at best"

The heck is that
Is Goku average human or something
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did you not get the memo where such movements were constrained in an explicit author given time frame?


if the above exchange was stated to have happened in 5 seconds, then yes, that would be anti feat, it wasn't, so it isn't

this literally isn't that hard
 
Ig Peak Human Gojo and Sukuna is real
they're still fast, never denied that, like hypersonic at best, but this does show they're not going at constant blurs of supersonic to hypersonic velocities even when fighting to the death

and this isn't the only one, i just forgot where the other 10 second timer was, and don't feel like looking anyways
 
No, there are not infinite.
Ye they are infinite. Go read the manga and fanbook then come back.


no, it was speed = distance/time, my reasoning was, and read carefully, that in that 41 seconds, the distance they crossed isn't several tens of thousands of kms, but a couple hundred meters at best, they didn't exchanges thousands of blows, but 10 at most, so, and get this, based on extremely basic formulas, they're not mach 500
And they didn't do it when fighting outside of that time span so what are you chatting about? This is literally what you said, with ur garbage standards:
>> "there is no lightning nor light speed bits, i can maybe see the god tiers being the double digit mach range but even then the gojo vs sukuna fight had multiple timers in the seconds where they didn't cross the entire planet back to back got to the moon fought there for a bit came back exchanged billions of blows statue gravity and be invinsible to everyone(example being he 41 second timeframe in Chapter 235 where they're showed only throwing around like a couple dozen blows at most and reacting to Red before it reaches its target, no matter how you twist it, that fight cannot be happening in reltavisitc or massively hypersonic velocities) nothing in jjk supports that notion

LS anything in jjk or even lightning timing isn't exactly supported by much of anything, the power scalers usually just blow the stats out of proportions without understanding the implications the speed would have for the acual scenes, from what i remember of the fight it wasn't a constant blur of ungodly relativistic velocities, even the fact that Gojo's Red was able to loop around and strike sukuna in the same position indicates that Sukuna is standing in the same place for an amount of time not measured in the nanoseconds and the fact that gojo only manages to land one blow on Sukuna and then fails to follow it up in the 10 seconds of exposure to UV before Mahoraga emerges and shatters his domain also says a lot

as i said, i can see the god tiers being hyperonic, double digit mach? maybe"

^ This is literally what you said. You use "couple of blows" as one of the points to say Hypersonic or mhs don't make sense in a Manga but the thing you can't comprehend is that ur ass logic would Literally have so many mfs not ftl or mftl any longer like db or JoJo 🤣
It's how ridiculous your logic is. It is garbage. There is no other way to put it when you have completely nonsensical standards.

no, i will go slowly, what i said is, in a 41 seconds time frame, if a character can't cross distances that big, he, by extension, of the S=T/D formula, isn't FTL

mindblowing i know, but, what it also means is, how we get speed, is how much distance a character can cross in specific time frames, moving your limbs also counts, as you're moving them from point A to point B in a specific time frame thus crossing a distance, assuming said distance is 1,4 meters per punch, a mach 500 character can throw 122 500 punches in a single second

gojo and sukuna, very visibly, did not exchange that many blows, get it? they only exchanged a couple dozen at best

so, that means, they're not that fast, easy to understand if you could just read
Ye it being in 41 seconds doesn't matter lol. You act as if something happening within a specific time frame changed anything when we literally see it take way longer then that. We literally see 3m in domain battle take about few panels to end 😂
Again you're inputting absurd standards in powerscaling. please quit powerscaling because this is just one of the wildest standards for what qualifies for X speed I've ever seen 😭




by fanfictin rules, do you perhaps mean the laws of physics?

i'm flattered, but i'm not smart enough to discover those, i can only try to learn them


it feels weird having to explain basic shit to people, but if you don't get it even now may god help you because i can't
Laws of physics? No dude you're saying characters need to do more than just throw around couple of blows to be hypersonic, mhs etc to qualify as that level of speed. And they also need to cross large distances when fighting for some reason? You're just making up wild standards that is illogical af.

i feel like i wasted my time

it's not it doesn't vibe with that speed ,it literally just isn't
You just don't like JJK speed that's not new bro.
Now go argue this in a random vs wiki dragon ball thread please. Heck do it on any other series with FTL to mftl scaling on this site. U gotta cook 🔥
they're still fast, never denied that, like hypersonic at best,
And yet they're only throwing around couple of punches??? W Hypersonic.
 
the thing you can't comprehend is that ur ass logic would Literally have so many mfs not ftl or mftl any longer like db or JoJo 🤣
It's how ridiculous your logic is. It is garbage. There is no other way to put it when you have completely nonsensical standards.
great! so be it!

the thing is, mate, if you can't find the flaw in my logic, then, yk, it's correct, if you think otherwise you need to use logic to say why


Ye it being in 41 seconds doesn't matter lol
because you said so?
care to, yk, provide an adequate explanation?

You act as if something happening within a specific time frame changed anything when we literally see it take way longer then that.
...isn't that like, even worse for the speed scaling?

do you understand what you're talking about?

We literally see 3m in domain battle take about few panels to end 😂
...how the hell does that help you, that helps me

Again you're inputting absurd standards in powerscaling. please quit powerscaling because this is just one of the wildest standards for what qualifies for X speed I've ever seen
you mean S=D/T?
that's the absurd standard?
physics?

Laws of physics? No dude you're saying characters need to do more than just throw around couple of blows to be hypersonic, mhs etc to qualify as that level of speed
how the **** is that wrong, i am literally laughing in disbleif lmao

also depends on the time frame in which those blows are use, you know, the good ol S=D/T

And they also need to cross large distances when fighting for some reason?
in 41 seconds?
yes, or alternatively small distances in a short ammount of time


You're just making up wild standards that is illogical af.
still yet to see any reason why it's illogical other than by those standards all these verses will get downgraded 2!

idc?
like so what lol

You just don't like JJK speed that's not new bro.
i literally read all the new chaps, just because i have more common sens than..well, a lot of people here it seems, doesn't mean i don't like it

why do you even think i'm here

Now go argue this in a random vs wiki dragon ball thread please. Heck do it on any other series with FTL to mftl scaling on this site. U gotta cook 🔥

i don't feel like reading evey single series to powerscale them nor do i want to, feel free to keep using this excuse tho

And yet they're only throwing around couple of punches??? W Hypersonic.


they're still fast, never denied that, like hypersonic at best, but this does show they're not going at constant blurs of supersonic to hypersonic velocities even when fighting to the death

im also convinced you got one of the biggest dogshit standards for speed scaling Bro so dw.
my standard is following the speed formula we learned as children, how do calc speed then?

Your arguments are just bad lmao
care to just explain why then?
really, just explain why the argument is bad


Ig everyone in Record of Ragnarok is only peak human cuz most of fights there last for 5-10 minutes with only some dozen of punchs happening smh
if that is the case, then yes, i have no idea how you all even scale but at this point i give up


you all are hopeless
 
You want to make them Hypersonic while using Peak Human "antifeats" like "they can only punch some dozen of times without 41 seconds"

they're still fast, never denied that, like hypersonic at best, but this does show they're not going at constant blurs of supersonic to hypersonic velocities even when fighting to the death

and it's not like they were in constant motion, the little exchance isn't all there was in that 41 seconds, they're plenty superhuman even using that, meguna used peircing blood at the end to interupt purple's activation and it took time to move towards it's target (about a couple dozen meters), meaning the last exchange was in the millseconds, they're plenty fast, they can maybe reach hypersonic speed when simply dashing forwards, but this still exists, which implies jjk fights aren't happening in constant blurs of supersonic to hypersonic motion, like i said earlier


i feel speecheless, but it is what it is
 
Mf has piercing blood
Kashimo's lightning
Sukuna using piercing water
Itadori almost hitting Sukuna with piercing blood
Naoya
Naobito
And much more to argue for Hypersonic at best

And bro choose "Sukuna and Gojo could only punch some dozen of times within 41 seconds (most of time both were only thinking about possibilities)

Truly sad
No surpise that Bro couldnt save Kimetsu
 
And bro choose "Sukuna and Gojo could only punch some dozen of times within 41 seconds (most of time both were only thinking about possibilities)
..mate, your only argument is "nuh uh this is absurd", you don't have much to stand on

and as i said, let's leave it, you making fun of me would only escalate stuff for no reason, this isn't that serious
 
great! so be it!

the thing is, mate, if you can't find the flaw in my logic, then, yk, it's correct, if you think otherwise you need to use logic to say why
And I did. you don't even have any coherent logic to begin with.


...isn't that like, even worse for the speed scaling?

do you understand what you're talking about?
you act like the 41 seconds mean anything when we literally see 3 min just skip ahead in few panels.
Most of the 41 seconds is spent on chilling and standing there and watching things go by. Congrats.



...how the hell does that help you, that helps me
It doesn't. It just tells you that your attempt to argue that they're not X speed just because they're not traveling around the planet is stupid.
By the way can you tell me why Gege would want them to go cause havoc around the world killing other people.
Like you're blatantly ignoring the fact that the battlefield they choose was one where it was empty for them to fight in. Why the hell would they travel around where civilians are around now lmao.
Then you're also ignoring the fact that if they're Hypersonic and used that speed to zip around the world, the spectators wouldn't be able to spectate anymore which ruins the plot even further and thus just making it bad writing for what Gege has planned it to be.
Your logic is quite frankly ridiculous. Non coherent. Etc.


you mean S=D/T?
that's the absurd standard?
physics?
No dude, go reread. You think characters throwing multiple punches = they can't be X speed.
You think them not traveling around and crossing large distances = they're not X speed.

how the **** is that wrong, i am literally laughing in disbleif lmao

also depends on the time frame in which those blows are use, you know, the good ol S=D/T
Why would that matter. For all you know those couple of punches could have taken time in a millisecond and it wouldn't even matter. We literally see that the time flow in that so called 41 seconds isn't even coherent with our normal countdown of time lol. It is pretty much unknown. And you're using that to argue for your agenda 😭

in 41 seconds?
yes, or alternatively small distances in a short ammount of time
and why should they. You've yet given a good reasoning to why they should just zip around in different regions and such. You're just trying to say them not doing this = they're not that fast. You'd need to prove that they can't do this in the first place when there is no indication or context showing that they're attempting this lol.


still yet to see any reason why it's illogical other than by those standards all these verses will get downgraded 2!

idc?
like so what lol
You're failing to keep up with me bruh this is crazy.
Go reread.


i literally read all the new chaps, just because i have more common sens than..well, a lot of people here it seems, doesn't mean i don't like it

why do you even think i'm here
You barely have any sense of common sense to begin with. Is that something to be proud over?

i don't feel like reading evey single series to powerscale them nor do i want to, feel free to keep using this excuse tho
Ye quit powerscaling. You're not built for it.
Also not supersonic? Yeah you're lost. You clearly haven't read the series nor are you able to comprehend something as basic as gojo being able to blitz Toji with every set of his movement, that literally puts the idea of him and Sukuna not fighting at supersonic speeds for some reason (that's the lowest you can get but you got lower then that lmfao) in the garbage can for how objectively false it is.

you all are hopeless
Ok
 
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