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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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EldemadeDityjon
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If people still thinks Maki has a chance against Current Yuji in a straight up one on one fight then may be one of the worst takes they have on JJK inverse. Yuji straight up murders her in a fight. Her only chance is sneak attack. Yuji also has 99% Chance of Killing Hakari before hitting Jackpot. Only one among Jujutsu high heavy hitters having chance of beating current Yuji is Yuta.
Ryu gets dog walked by Yuji
just a small amount of blood is all needed to poison him
Ryu gets dog walked by Yuji
just a small amount of blood is all needed to poison him
EldemadeDityjon
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EldemadeDityjon
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I'm wondering if Yuta's body got more messed up than Gojo's body by WS. I mean, Yuta can heal Gojo's body with maximum RCT output after changing the brain. Shouldn't they be able to swap it back with Yuta's body if his body can be fixed by Shoko, like how she did with Gojo's body, and use maximum output for RCT to heal it?
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Typical delusion, when Yuji gets in a long fight he somehow gets stronger than everyone around. Dude is TRASH.
Dude's been boxing with a dying Sukuna, unable to do anything with Soul damage and Black flashes.
Starting off Yuji isn't hitting black flashes in a fight against Maki, he gonna be armless before that happens, Yuji's mid blood use isn't doing anything here and its getting precogged dodged. Maki needs one clean slash to his body and his guts is coming out and he's struggling to heal his body and soul and while he's tryna figure out how to RCT his soul, he's gonna get his head cut off before he realizes he's dead. Shrine ain't working, he gotta touch her, she cuts his arm off. He definitely not faster, he might get blitzed and packed up off bat if we being serious. He can't sense her, so she's disappearing on sight.
Like stop, I get it Yuji's the mc, he must be able to win, but NAH MAKI'S HER.
EldemadeDityjon
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None of this makes sense to Elden because in his head Yuji performed way better than Maki did (Despite receiving the same treatment she received when Sukuna locked in) despite them nearly identical in every aspect.
Arkenis
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I swear you read Yuji Shippuden or something.
EldemadeDityjon
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Nah you just read Maki Kaisen that's all. I bet you wouldn't accept Yuji > Maki even if Gege gives a direct statement.
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A lot of people overestimate their favs and read every scene they're in with rose tinted glasses
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I'm sorry?
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Trying to be as honest and unbiased as possible, I'd say Yuji would more often beat Maki (Current Versions and it'd be close but like 60 to 40, maybe 55 to 45).
They both have crazy physical feats and hype there (pretty sure they'd be at Miguel's level, maybe higher), but I'm not a 100% on who wins under that specific area. Yuji still has near complete control over BF, blood manipulation, Shrine and awareness of the soul, RCT. Maki is invisible/undetectable when trying to using CE, godly senses, and access to incredible curse tools, along w/the mastery in them.
W/this kind of match up, I just see Yuji winning most standard fights given his range of abilities while Maki cand get the win if she lands a sneak attack and/or the fight starts as an ambush.
They both have crazy physical feats and hype there (pretty sure they'd be at Miguel's level, maybe higher), but I'm not a 100% on who wins under that specific area. Yuji still has near complete control over BF, blood manipulation, Shrine and awareness of the soul, RCT. Maki is invisible/undetectable when trying to using CE, godly senses, and access to incredible curse tools, along w/the mastery in them.
W/this kind of match up, I just see Yuji winning most standard fights given his range of abilities while Maki cand get the win if she lands a sneak attack and/or the fight starts as an ambush.
EldemadeDityjon
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good choice, although I do recommend downloading 3 quest mods, the Vicn trilogy; vigilant, glenmoril and unslaad, the guy is one of the best Tes lore heads (and japanese truly a wild combo) and the story in them is just 10/10, better than the main game and is honestly around or even better morrowind levels of quality
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you see what I mean? this guy has the worst takes, period.
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Actually it’s far from complete.
- Yuji clearly enters on a hyper focused state that allows him to hit Black Flashes, and he constantly got help from others to keep the streak going. It doesn’t happen on all fights.
- His Blood Manipulation is actually the weakest we’ve seen in the verse, he cannot do Convergence. He is very limited at it.
- Shrine is probably his weakest technique at the moment given how low the output is and how limited it is now, we only see Yuji using Cleave.
- He has shown some limits with his RCT since he’s not that used to it.
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as segnificant as taking actual damage without being able to heal, it'd basically be current yuji vs hakari meaning yuji but he is stronger than him outside of jackpot and is about even if not actually a bit stronger and all the damage yuji pushes out with his attacks sticks unlike hakari who's low offense will mean he can't actually put yuji down due to his RCT+blood manip combo.
My guy yuta was able to actually swap hands with sukuna who was still fresh off his incarnation, no real damage and little CT being expanded (yuta was still slower but..) similar to kashimo in mythical beast amber who was able to keep up with that sukuna but was getting overwhelmed none the less meaning yuta is relative (although some what slower) to that kashimo similar to how hakari is relative but slower to that kashimo as he is equal to base kashimo in stats while he is in jackpot, simple as.
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OFFGUARD?
in what world is this offguard!? he is staring right at her and she proceeds to send him flying with one punch.
reinforcement depends on two specific factors, efficency of CE use and output having high output allows for greater levels of reinforcement, while efficency allows one to keep up that level of reinforcement throughout, yuji getting into CQC is a lose for ryu as his big shtick of high output will fly right out the window the moment CQC begins and considering yuta without rika did get into CqC range (so no CT's being used what so ever) the fight is going to get up close and personal with yuji and ryu and that is a flat out loss for ryu.
Giannysmag
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I think they were only talking about complete control of BF, which isn't that wrong of a statement, Yuji currently has the biggest BF streak in the verse after all
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I mean even with the hyper focused state it still needs to be said that yuji pulled of 8 black flashes back to back and the only real reason he need help is because its ******* sukuna weakened or not its sukuna, even right now in his current state the only people that are beating sukuna are: gojo, yuta (with domain), kashimo (mythic ember is actualyl gonna be a problem, without world slash it'd be kinda hard to end him) and kenjaku, everybody else gets destroyed
I mean not really, we've seen yuji using blood manip better than kamo overall, like yeah his offense with it is not there yet but his defensive measure are so much superior to kamo it isn't even funny and he can use blood bursting/supernova lite as shown in the domain show down in 251.
its at its weakest right now but even then its offense is pretty good with it being able to cut sukuna and all, we honestly need to see more of it.
dude lets be honest his RCT is cracked, like sure he has not been able to heal everything but he has survived like 8 death blows by this point and his RCT got him out of it each time, like we have Ryu saying that healing an arm is a massive showing of skill with RCT and yuji out here is healing half his torso after it gets turned to blood mist, his actual RCT skill and use is superior to half the RCT users we've seen in the verse so far.
I mean the moment yuji gets complete control on any of those abilities its gonna be up for debate if he is top 3 in the verse, like there is a reason why just having those abilities with his current stats puts him solidly into the top 10 of the verse, having complete control of all of that? thats top 3 material if not higher depending if he pops off a domain.
Giannysmag
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Bro imagine giving the guy with Yuta level strength at will Black Flash + Flowing RedScale Stacked, that shit is killing anyone in the verse minus Gojo and Sukuna
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He pulled 7 Black Flashes, two with help, and the 8th was with Todo’s help as well. I think some people forget that there’s an opponent on the other side that was actively trying to fight back against those Black Flashes by not letting Yuji hit him, thus he needed external help from Ino and Larue (the GOAT). The reason he needed help isn’t just because it’s Sukuna, it’s because he has someone fighting on the other side and I think people forget that, he’s not fighting someone who will stand still for him to hit Black Flashes, against some characters Yuji won’t even have the chance to hit them, like at all.
I don’t buy this Black Flash argument at all. Before the recent Black Flashes he hasn’t successfully achieved a single BF since Shibuya, I think it was more than 100 without one.
What? Kamo is far better than Yuji with Blood Manipulation. He is the one that taught Yuji after all, and has been training his whole life with it. The only advantage Yuji has over him is his body producing blood with CE. Kamo can fight back Cursed Naoya with Piercing Blood, can use Blood Armor to block Cursed Naoya’s attacks and is a much more experienced BM user than Yuji. Kamo can also use Convergence that allows him to use the strongest of BM, such as Piercing Blood.
That thing on 251 has no correlation with Supernova at all…
Yuji doesn’t have better defenses than Kamo with BM, Kamo can use Blood Armor and Yuji doesn’t because he can’t barely manipulate blood from outside of his body. Yuji’s advantages over Kamo come from the fact that his body is different and can produce blood from CE, nothing related to his BM mastery which Yuji is a complete newbie at.
We should’ve seen more of it but Gege is a ******* dumbass. Blud made Yuji awaken and hit 7 BFs in a row just so in the next chapter he ignored all of this to draw 5 spread pages hyping Sukuna.
This is heading into ifs so I don’t want to head into it because I’m tired of predicting any upgrades for Yuji meanwhile Gege is worried about who he is hyping next while he sidelines Yuji.
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You know I’ve been thinking about these combinations, just like Gojo has accomplished Black Flash + Blue enhanced fist + CE reinforcement, imagine Yuki with Star Rage on 100% + Black Flash + CE reinforcement. That shit would be crazy.
EldemadeDityjon
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I was hoping Gege should have given Kusakabe SD+BF+sword strike.
Well we are talking about Gege. Dude never gives any predictable things. Only one thing that came as reality which is Yuta taking over Gojo.
Giannysmag
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He has landed Black Flashes without help though. Both his first BF against Hanami and most of his BFs in 257 were done completely on his own
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Eh, I think you put too much faith on a irrelevant side character like Kusakabe. I don’t think Gege wants to give these characters something like Black Flash. Doesn’t make any sense to be honest.
In reality he is very predictable, just not by current shounen standards. His writing resembles a lot of 80s shounen.
Giannysmag
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Offensivelly no, but dfensively he has far better feats with BM than Kamo
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I never said he couldn’t do it without help. Not like I’ve forgotten what he did against Hanami or Mahito.
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Such as?
Giannysmag
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Reattaching himself after getting shredded by MS
EldemadeDityjon
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Regarding Yuji's Regeneration people are underestimating his BM + RCT combo. Sure if it's too many places he recieved damage he might have hard time healing. But if it's just clean cuts he can just reattach his body parts and fix them like how he did inside Sukuna's Domain. It's case by case.
EldemadeDityjon
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Well may be I'm not familiar with 80's series.
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dude even without help he landed 5 ON SUKUNA, again I don't care how weakened he is, that is ******* sukuna.
dude, the only time he could've landed a black flash against someone in the culling games was against meguna and I don't think he was in the best mind set for that (being angry isn't perfect for pulling blackflashes), the first two shmucks he fought he one tapped without black flashes and the other person was higaruma who took away his CE and without Ce Bf's are not on the table.
the one bit aka body producing blood with CE is already a humangus advantage over Kamo's limited blood manip like half of this isn't about skill its about who got a better BM and yuji has the better one.
I already said the only thhing yuji lacks is offense with BM
he didn't use blood armour that is a choso only thing for the time being, he used a blood shield of a kind and only once here is the panel
Sure he is expirenced and can use convergence but when it comes to actual utility yuji being able to make blood with CE as well as his defensive and healing measures is simply superior to what kamo's got.
I mean what else is it then? supernova is comperesed blood bursting outwards, yuji used the blood he spat on sukuna and burst it, its not as potent as supernova but it is the same principle of bursting blood hence supernova lite.
again its not about mastary but having better BM in the first place, kamo is limited by the amount of blood he has (never used blood armour btw but I already mentioned it) in his body and is forced to recycle that blood to stay in the fight which has its own issues (tainted blood is not the best thing to suck up into your meat suit) and I don't know about you but being able to actually grab and pull back a severed leg is a pretty solid showing of good BM manip outside the body.
dude, its only been 4 chapters chill out
heading? that is a what if my man, if yuji is the one to surive all this shit and gets mastery of all 4 of his current abilities the only thing that will be stopping him from being debataly number 1 is domain.
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How is that defensive though? I think you’re confusing this with resilience. Using blood to tank attacks is defense. He also has FRS and I completely forgot, lol. Yuji not doing shit to him with BM.
