Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[M3X_2.0]

Yuji and Todo can barely do anything to Sukuna though

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Yuji and Todo can barely do anything to Sukuna though

I was playing to point out the flaw in his logic

 

[Rosa]

I will say, all the Gojo downscale theories might’ve been right. Yuta can’t insta blitz Sukuna like that right now even with Gojo’s stats

Who said he has Gojo's stats? He'd need to be able to reinforce the body with CE as effectively as Gojo does, which isn't necessarily a given as six eyes users can very is strength and jujutsu skill.

 

[Arkenis]

What if since Yuta's brain hasn't become accustomed to using limitless or the six eyes like Gojo's, the five minutes are gonna be also hindered by him weakening over time?

 

[Rosa]

What if since Yuta's brain hasn't become accustomed to using limitless or the six eyes like Gojo's, the five minutes are gonna be also hindered by him weakening over time?

This is my suspicion too. Even if you want to say Sukuna was holding back SO MUCH against Gojo that even in this half-dead state he can match a Gojo tier in stats, Sukuna doesn't have access to DA, the WCS, Mahoraga, and his domain is limited to 99 seconds when it took him 3 minutes and 11 seconds to destroy Gojo's domain. Sukuna has no way to bypass infinity and no way to outlast UV, so unless we're witnessing Sukuna's death next chapter (unlikely, Yuji will be the one to kill Sukuna, not Yuta) Yuta has to have some limitation.

We know a sorcerers power is largely defined by how well they can manipulate their CE with the six eyes not necessarily being an amp but more so a tool which makes it far easier for a sorcerer to do, but if that sorcerer is exceptionally sloppy (like Gege made an effort to note to us this very chapter) I can see Yuta not maximising the benefit of the six eyes like someone as talented and exceptional as Gojo could. This could manifest in him being overall weaker, my prediction, or maybe we'd see Yuta have to use limitless the way pre-RCT Gojo did (or perhaps even to a worse level) where it's still an exceptionally strong CT but has flaws which Sukuna can exploit to prolong the battle.

 

[Arkenis]

This is my suspicion too. Even if you want to say Sukuna was holding back SO MUCH against Gojo that even in this half-dead state he can match a Gojo tier in stats, Sukuna doesn't have access to DA, the WCS, Mahoraga, and his domain is limited to 99 seconds when it took him 3 minutes and 11 seconds to destroy Gojo's domain. Sukuna has no way to bypass infinity and no way to outlast UV, so unless we're witnessing Sukuna's death next chapter (unlikely, Yuji will be the one to kill Sukuna, not Yuta) Yuta has to have some limitation.

I would like to see them both die, and not just die but this death scene tie back to what Yuji's grandpa said about how to die; being surrounded by others, portrayed in Yuta to not only wrap up Yuta who became a monster as the old mc and tie in a part of Yuji but also clash with Sukuna's ideals and show how their ideals end up being superior in the end. Sukuna became a monster for his own selfish reasons, the sorcerers became monsters for one another, which also can tie into the theme of love and isolation Gege has had for Sukuna.

 

[M3X_2.0]

I think Gojo will be massively weakened on the same level as Sukuna because he was cut in half. Or any limitation from Yuta using the body.

I don’t believe it will be Gojo at full power and people saying this are delusional. A full power Gojo fighting current Sukuna would obliterate him.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Hopefully Gege also explains Kenjaku’s CT and how it works. Depending on what he is cooking it will be easier to perceive Geto as a strong individual and not a JJK0 victim anymore.

 

[Arkenis]

Sorcerer society is insane . They hid everything from Yuji, let him think “yeah sensei’s got this!” Meanwhile they waiting for him to die and now its their time.

 

[Sakamaki_Fuji]

It aint that deep. It just shows that Yujis the only one who didnt treat Gojo like a monster.

 

[Aaaaa11112222]

That scan says within, the glow is outside.

Well, if CE triggers the CT, the Spark comes before the activation of the cursed technique, right? The Spark reveals itself whenever CE is being used, CE flows within the body (originating from the gut) and comes out as CT ."Prior (before) to the activation of Domain Expansion. Before the activation of a Cursed Technique".

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[Aaaaa11112222]

it was that the rest of jujutsu society was taking it as just a speed thing he even goes "what makes ya think I can just do black flashes at will? the fact that I have six eyes?" and then he goes into how blackflash takes a lot more than just speed and if it was just speed he'd be able to pop them off all willy nilly.

Doesn't Gojo mention in the same chapter that Black Flash is just a natural phenomenon and has no real way of activation, and they just have their own explanation of how it can be activated, though it isn't guarenteed?

 

[Rosa]

A full power Gojo fighting current Sukuna would obliterate him.

Agreed, but people are trying to argue that Yuta is now a full power Gojo and that this Sukuna going relative only proves the "Sukuna held back by several magnitudes against Gojo, he could've just no diffed" agenda. It's pure delusion

 

[M3X_2.0]

Agreed, but people are trying to argue that Yuta is now a full power Gojo and that this Sukuna going relative only proves the "Sukuna held back by several magnitudes against Gojo, he could've just no diffed" agenda. It's pure delusion

Delusional peoples.

 

[M3X_2.0]

What if Ui Ui swapped Gojo and Yuta so he could get used to Gojo’s powers

 

[Arkenis]

Maybe. That could explain why Yuta had a better refined domain also

 

[Aaaaa11112222]

So, after thinking about it, this is the conclusion what I got for the "spark," which is that it's just something that occurs within the sorcerer. How is this? Is there anything wrong with my argumentation here and my reasoning for it? This is something that can be used against someone who might say what I questioned about -- that it doesn't occur inside or whatever.

The Spark reveals itself whenever CE is being used, CE flows within the body (originating from the gut) and comes out as CT ."Prior (before) to the activation of Domain Expansion. Before the activation of a Cursed Technique".

So, about this, Sukuna, within the chapter (235), couldn’t see the “spark,” since it’s something that operates within the sorcerer. He was merely making assumptions on what it was, which, as the panel stated, was based on the “incantions” and the “scale of CE” which Sukuna detected. Right after the panel, it’s literally even explained that Sukuna was incorrect in his assumption, as the actual attack being utilized was Hollow Purple. Plus, you can clearly see the fact that Gojo wasn’t forming any beam within the panel as well, to further reinforce my point. The spark is simply, as said, the buildup of the CE within the sorcerer before it’s finally outputted and fired. That is what the spark is, and was stated to be. It's the process of CE building up/swelling WITHIN the sorcerer to activate a CT.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

So, after thinking about it, this is the conclusion what I got for the "spark," which is that it's just something that occurs within the sorcerer. How is this? Is there anything wrong with my argumentation here and my reasoning for it? This is something that can be used against someone who might say what I questioned about -- that it doesn't occur inside or whatever.

So, about this, Sukuna, within the chapter (235), couldn’t see the “spark,” since it’s something that operates within the sorcerer. He was merely making assumptions on what it was, which, as the panel stated, was based on the “incantions” and the “scale of CE” which Sukuna detected. Right after the panel, it’s literally even explained that Sukuna was incorrect in his assumption, as the actual attack being utilized was Hollow Purple. Plus, you can clearly see the fact that Gojo wasn’t forming any beam within the panel as well, to further reinforce my point. The spark is simply, as said, the buildup of the CE within the sorcerer before it’s finally outputted and fired. That is what the spark is, and was stated to be. It's the process of CE building up/swelling WITHIN the sorcerer to activate a CT.

In that scan, the narrator states that Sukuna's assumption was not incorrect lmao

It's just that Gojo used that Red to create Purple externally

 

[Arkenis]

He was merely making assumptions on what it was, which, as the panel stated, was based on the “incantions” and the “scale of CE” which Sukuna detected. Right after the panel, it’s literally even explained that Sukuna was incorrect in his assumption, as the actual attack being utilized was Hollow Purple.

Purple is less of a tech and more of a formula for two techs combining, this is why Hollow Purple is described as a formula in the raw iirc. Basically there isn't any spark for purple here because it hasn't happened yet and its not "activated" its created.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Purple is less of a tech and more of a formula for two techs combining, this is why Hollow Purple is described as a formula in the raw iirc. Basically there isn't any spark for purple here because it hasn't happened yet and its not "activated" its created.

If he's creating Purple normally, then it's probably easier to detect based on the spark

 

[Arkenis]

If he's creating Purple normally, then it's probably easier to detect based on the spark

He creates Purple the same way by merging the two different techs, they would sense those already. What would happen is the prediction of those two sparks and deducing Purple from them.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

He creates Purple the same way by merging the two different techs, they would sense those already. What would happen is the prediction of those two sparks and deducing Purple from them.

What I meant

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I feel like we aren't on that level just yet, but my God, sometimes it really feels like it.

Gojo figurine incident

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Gojo figurine incident

What specifically has happened in the MHA space that is worse than this?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

What specifically have MHA fans done that is worse than this?

Nothing they did is not as worst as Gojo figurine incident I guess.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Nothing they did is not as worst as Gojo figurine incident I guess.

I just remembered one thing

Bakugo poster incident

 

[Arkenis]

There's also "puppy litter Deku".

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I just remembered one thing

Bakugo poster incident

Thank goodness I haven't seen it

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Thank goodness I haven't seen it

The exact same, but with a poster

 

[Aaaaa11112222]

Purple is less of a tech and more of a formula for two techs combining, this is why Hollow Purple is described as a formula in the raw iirc. Basically there isn't any spark for purple here because it hasn't happened yet and its not "activated" its created.

In that scan, the narrator states that Sukuna's assumption was not incorrect lmao

It's just that Gojo used that Red to create Purple externally

I see, so, would you two say, that by removing the part where I say, "Right after the panel, it’s literally even explained that Sukuna was incorrect in his assumption, as the actual attack being utilized was Hollow Purple," it establishes an effective explanation or rebuttal?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I see, so, would you two say, that by removing the part where I say, "Right after the panel, it’s literally even explained that Sukuna was incorrect in his assumption, as the actual attack being utilized was Hollow Purple," it establishes an effective explanation or rebuttal?

I had no ****** idea what you were trying to convey. I was just correcting that piece of information

 

[Aaaaa11112222]

I had no ****** idea what you were trying to argue. I was just correcting that piece of information

That was the conclusion what I got for what the "spark" means, which is that it's just the process of CE building up that occurs within the sorcerer. This is something that can be used against someone who might that it doesn't occur inside the sorcerer or whatever, or like how my previous question kinda said.

Well, if CE triggers the CT, the Spark comes before the activation of the cursed technique, right? The Spark reveals itself whenever CE is being used, CE flows within the body (originating from the gut) and comes out as CT ."Prior (before) to the activation of Domain Expansion. Before the activation of a Cursed Technique".

 

[JnSteHar002]

I've been wondering about true form/heian era Sukuna compared to Meguna at 20F-ish level.

While there's nothing about a change in CE reserves/levels, his form was confirmed to have at least a very noticeable increase in his output and possibly overall CE efficiency. Also, that new body is just jacked w/an extra foot, which should contribute to an increase in physical capabilities as well (Then again, all that extra weight could make his movement and/or overall speed slower).

Maybe Sukuna was really holding back in that after running his own risk analysis, he thought it'd be better to wait for Mahoraga to give him an OP Hax attack that he can use as he pleases and hold his cards rather then just use a form that would be overall stronger but still just not be guaranteed to break through the HAX that is Limitless.

Definitely not a 100% on this but it could make sense for that Miguel statement from Gojo and if he holds his own against Gota if they can utilize limitless and 6 eyes at full power.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

That made me laugh a little

 

[eibwen]

maybe i'm late into the conversation but
Gojo is a tsundere, always braging about how he is the strongest and can take it all on his sholder, but in the end, his mental protection wasnt cast unbreakable
Though seems to be that he will always talking about how great he is and wouldnt care about others, because he is aware of how lonely he is, that no one can share the feeling he has, that no one truly cares for him
After the death of his life (the 236), when confronted by such words from his friend, his colleague, I didnt realize it at first, but now I know that it is his heart collapsed
Suffer the weigh of burden for the entire life, he's finally having a weak moment, of the Strongest

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Then again, all that extra weight could make his movement and/or overall speed slower

I don't think it made him slower. He has been adjusted to his own weight and he had been fighting with his true form in Heian Era for atleast Decades. While Megumi body he needed CE amps to power it up. So his True form should be atleast same level or higher level of speed looking at height of the legs. Where Megumi could take two step he can take just one step and same goes for Punches.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I'm also on Kenny's side lol.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]