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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Gokukid2005 said:
  • Todo gets injured and "loses" his technique on Halloween
  • Culling Games starts 12 days after that
  • Gojo is freed 7 days after that
When exactly did you want Todo to show up?
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You know, Gege could have made scenes with Todo while the Culling Game was going on. He could have added him easly in-between the main fights of the arc to show what the heck he was doing
 
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YOU LIED ABOUT YOUR CT. YOU LIED ABOUT YOUR DE. YOU LIED ABOUT YOUR JORDANS BEING REAL. YOU LIED ABOUT YOUR GRADE LEVEL. YOU LIED ABOUT BEING A HEAVY HITTER. **** YUTA OKKUTSU AND YUJI ITADORI , YOU’RE STUCK IN A LIFELONG BATTLE WITH PANDA

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EldemadeDityjon said:
What you are claiming is NLF & argument from incredulity. Saying Gojo can tank an EE attack without feats.
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That isn't NLF because we see sorcerers consistently survive or are heavily implied to survive X abilities or haxes because they're strong thanks to CE reinforcement. Such as Sukuna surviving Gojo's HP despite the special properties within said HP, Mahito being unsure in one shotting Todo with his soul hax due to how weak he has gotten. If you're strong enough you can survive Mahito's soul hax in JJK. If you're weaker then it is wraps.


Surviving Jogo's heat and shit in his domain requires you to be strong as well like the Fanbook and Jogo say. Having good resistance to Kashimo's electricity trait requires high CE output too. Nobara in some novel somewhat resisting a strengthened mind hax or whatever shenanigans - don't remember where - Civilians and the like being heavily affected by Gojo's UV hax, To where they're heavily incapacitated for quite long, whereas the likes of Choso, or any other like Sukuna, being able to NOT get incapacitated for quite long.

Heck Sukuna is even able to snap back after some seconds or a minute or so from the UV he took. Which again outlines this subtle narrative in JJK where if you're strong, you'll be able to better resist X hax. If you're a Tier or so above the other person, their hax will barely do anything to you, if at all. That's not to say the hax isn't lethal like Gojo's is, but you sure do have greater resistance to be able to bounce back or so in a short time.

Infact, even the Fanbook implies heavily that most that are weak will be instantly destroyed by Sukuna's CT, and few can resist and fight against it.

SUKUNA’S TECHNIQUE

Released by the King of Curses himself, it’s a slashing hellfire of slaughter.



Cursed techniques commonly only have one characteristic, but Sukuna’s technique has been confirmed to have at least two - slashing and flames - which makes it exceptionally powerful. Once it’s activated, it will destroy the enemy in an instant, tearing them apart and burning them down to their bone marrow.



Only a few people are able to fight this technique even for a moment, and most are reduced to nothing before they can resist.
Just like I said. It implies your own strength allows you to better resist Sukuna's flames, slashes etc. Even Yuki was unaffected by Uraume's own ice manipulation, whereas the weaker ones are more easily affected. We also know that Maki and Yuji were able to get out of the maximum output cold that Uraume did, where she used more power on Maki than Yuji, which both were able to get out of from later on (Yuji did far more quicker this time than in the Shibuya incident, indicating that your strength plays a role in resisting haxes and other abilities)

There's even that instance where Yuta and Yuji ISNT cut in half from WS. Which is also where Sukuna was heavily weakened, etc. As for straight forward hax like Blue and Red, DA weakens its output which makes you more resistant to it as well. (Output seems to matter whether you can resist hax that attracts you or repels you through space manip).

Now this sort of resistance in the verse is more so of a general type. There are some you can't just phase through or resist or do anything about, like how Sukuna's fire arrow and DE didn't even leave a single scratch on Mahoraga's wheel despite the sheer disparity in their power. Whereas Gojo's hollow purple - Despite being far weaker than that Sukuna's domain amped cleave and dismantle and fire arrow, was able to erase the wheel. Or how you can't just phase through or bypass Neutral Limitless through just sheer CE reinforcement because of how it is vastly different. And there are probably more stuff than these that I've mentioned that are out of the "Hax and ability resistance" stuff.

Nullflowerblush said:
What special properties? Hollow Purple is a blast of virtual mass,—it's like getting hit with a giant boulder that you can't feel.
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Imaginary mass*. What do you think attraction and repulsion creates my dude? Well we have the answer. It specifically erases you. Blue creates negative numbers. Red creates positive value.
You mix that and you get imaginary mass that happens to erase you because ???
It isn't some invisible Ki blast like yall are waffling about. Makes no sense for haxes like red and blue to simply just create a invisible ki blast 😂

Erase Mahoraga in one hit. - Shishiso TL
 
M3X_2.0 said:
YOU LIED ABOUT YOUR CT. YOU LIED ABOUT YOUR DE. YOU LIED ABOUT YOUR JORDANS BEING REAL. YOU LIED ABOUT YOUR GRADE LEVEL. YOU LIED ABOUT BEING A HEAVY HITTER. **** YUTA OKKUTSU AND YUJI ITADORI , YOU’RE STUCK IN A LIFELONG BATTLE WITH PANDA

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copied post but still true
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
That isn't NLF because we see sorcerers consistently survive or are heavily implied to survive X abilities or haxes because they're strong thanks to CE reinforcement. Such as Sukuna surviving Gojo's HP despite the special properties within said HP, Mahito being unsure in one shotting Todo with his soul hax due to how weak he has gotten. If you're strong enough you can survive Mahito's soul hax in JJK. If you're weaker then it is wraps.


Surviving Jogo's heat and shit in his domain requires you to be strong as well like the Fanbook and Jogo say. Having good resistance to Kashimo's electricity trait requires high CE output too. Nobara in some novel somewhat resisting a strengthened mind hax or whatever shenanigans - don't remember where - Civilians and the like being heavily affected by Gojo's UV hax, To where they're heavily incapacitated for quite long, whereas the likes of Choso, or any other like Sukuna, being able to NOT get incapacitated for quite long.

Heck Sukuna is even able to snap back after some seconds or a minute or so from the UV he took. Which again outlines this subtle narrative in JJK where if you're strong, you'll be able to better resist X hax. If you're a Tier or so above the other person, their hax will barely do anything to you, if at all. That's not to say the hax isn't lethal like Gojo's is, but you sure do have greater resistance to be able to bounce back or so in a short time.

Infact, even the Fanbook implies heavily that most that are weak will be instantly destroyed by Sukuna's CT, and few can resist and fight against it.

SUKUNA’S TECHNIQUE

Released by the King of Curses himself, it’s a slashing hellfire of slaughter.



Cursed techniques commonly only have one characteristic, but Sukuna’s technique has been confirmed to have at least two - slashing and flames - which makes it exceptionally powerful. Once it’s activated, it will destroy the enemy in an instant, tearing them apart and burning them down to their bone marrow.



Only a few people are able to fight this technique even for a moment, and most are reduced to nothing before they can resist.
Just like I said. It implies your own strength allows you to better resist Sukuna's flames, slashes etc. Even Yuki was unaffected by Uraume's own ice manipulation, whereas the weaker ones are more easily affected. We also know that Maki and Yuji were able to get out of the maximum output cold that Uraume did, where she used more power on Maki than Yuji, which both were able to get out of from later on (Yuji did far more quicker this time than in the Shibuya incident, indicating that your strength plays a role in resisting haxes and other abilities)

There's even that instance where Yuta and Yuji ISNT cut in half from WS. Which is also where Sukuna was heavily weakened, etc. As for straight forward hax like Blue and Red, DA weakens its output which makes you more resistant to it as well. (Output seems to matter whether you can resist hax that attracts you or repels you through space manip).

Now this sort of resistance in the verse is more so of a general type. There are some you can't just phase through or resist or do anything about, like how Sukuna's fire arrow and DE didn't even leave a single scratch on Mahoraga's wheel despite the sheer disparity in their power. Whereas Gojo's hollow purple - Despite being far weaker than that Sukuna's domain amped cleave and dismantle and fire arrow, was able to erase the wheel. Or how you can't just phase through or bypass Neutral Limitless through just sheer CE reinforcement because of how it is vastly different. And there are probably more stuff than these that I've mentioned that are out of the "Hax and ability resistance" stuff.


Imaginary mass*. What do you think attraction and repulsion creates my dude? Well we have the answer. It specifically erases you. Blue creates negative numbers. Red creates positive value.
You mix that and you get imaginary mass that happens to erase you because ???
It isn't some invisible Ki blast like yall are waffling about. Makes no sense for haxes like red and blue to simply just create a invisible ki blast 😂

Erase Mahoraga in one hit. - Shishiso TL
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Here is my domain to counter yours
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EldemadeDityjon said:
Well it's not about EE but some Gojo fan just believes if Divine flame is EE Gojo can tank that attack without showing feats for resisting EE.
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EldemadeDityjon said:
I don't see you being in a neutral position here. Anyone who can see your replies can tell that you are inserting Sukuna couldn't tank HP, but he tanked Flames, so Gojo is in the same case, ignoring Flames and HP, which work in different ways with different abilities altogether. Not to mention, Sukuna might not have been affected by flames because it is connected to his domain, where he can just mark it and use it against his opponents, not himself. There are many different explanations that can be given for that. It's your burden to explain how tanking HP gonna make you survive against an possible EE flame not others who tells you flames and HP has different abilities altogether.
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possible EE flame
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Brief interlude: Yuta with Boogie Woogie would quite honestly be annoying as ****. A guy with near equal Jujutsu sense to Todo in just Vol 0 alone, superior in stats, alongside Rika, make fighting him utterly mind numbing.

I cannot imagine thinking, say, Toji is going to say, stab Rika with SSK - clap - now SSK is on the ground and Yuta takes the hit, and now Rika stores it in herself. Imagine Yuta simply switching places with Perfect Sphere and it hits Yorozu on some Goku vs Freeza nonsense. It might not be the most powerful technique, but it damn sure is annoying. All the little techniques pile up into a mountain.
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
I think you suggesting that it's possible at all is concerning enough
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That's concerning for only lobotomy fans.

Some EE takes times to completely erase the target. Jogoat's not getting erased instantly isn't an counter argument for it not being an EE. Not that I'm arguing it's EE. That's why I said possible

Databook official translation states this. Not that I checked the raws to confirm it.
Many are reduced to nothingness before they even have a chance to fight back.
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Again not that I was arguing for solid EE.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
That's concerning for only lobotomy fans.

Some EE takes times to completely erase the target. Jogoat's not getting erased instantly isn't an counter argument for it not being an EE. Not that I'm arguing it's EE. That's why I said possible

Databook official translation states this. Not that I checked the raws to confirm it.


Again not that I was arguing for solid EE.
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Thats NOT Bleach. We cant wank things that easy
 
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Good thing that I have give up of powerscaling and I'm here to do nothing but nitpick.


It must be very boring to see random people changing things sudentaly
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Imaginary mass*
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No, the term is "virtual mass" (仮想の質量 kasō no shitsuryo), which mirrors the real world physics concept (仮想質量 kasō shitsuryo).
物体が流体中を運動するとき、周囲の流体も同時に動くため、真空中における運動に比べて増加する見かけ上の質量のこと。仮想質量は物体の形状によって異なり、排除する流体の質量に比例する。誘導質量。付加質量。
"When an object is in motion in a fluid, the apparent mass of the object is increased compared to motion in a vacuum because the surrounding fluid is moving simultaneously. The virtual mass depends on the shape of the object and is proportional to the mass of the fluid to be excluded. Induced mass. Added mass."
一様流中を移動している分散相（粒子）が加速した場合、粒子近傍の流体も加速します。この場合、粒子は加速度運動に関わる流体の質量に比例する速度を流体に与えなければなりません。その反作用として粒子は流体から同等の力を受けます。これが仮想質量力です。
"When a displaced particle traveling in a uniform motion accelerates, the fluid surrounding the particle also accelerates. In this case, the particle must impart to the fluid a velocity proportional to the mass of the fluid involved in the accelerated motion. As a reaction, the particle receives an equivalent force from the fluid. This is the virtual mass force."
質量 m の粒子が加速運動する場合，粒子は進行方向の流体を押しのけ，その流体を加速しなければならない。このため，周りの流体の加速に必要な力の分だけ粒子の質量が見掛け上大きくなる。これを，付加質量という。
"When a particle of mass m is in accelerated motion, the particle must force aside the fluid in its direction of motion and accelerate said fluid. Therefore, the particle's mass is observably amplified by the force required to accelerate the surrounding fluid. This is called added mass."
In layman's terms (I gotcha), when an object travels through a fluid (e.g., air), its apparent mass is increased proportionally to the mass of the fluid being displaced by its direction of motion/force; the concept is briefly invoked by Yuki and by Kenjaku; her literal mass is constant, but virtual mass makes her feel heavier.

Say, I run three pound marble through a stream of water.
Its literal mass is constant, but the force being imposed by its motion and the displacement of the water itself is contributing to an "additional" mass.

It is, by all means, an "invisible ki blast", with the Infinities of Red and Blue imposing a force onto the surrounding fluid that, in turn, generates a virtual mass.
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Makes no sense for haxes like red and blue to simply just create a invisible ki blast 😂
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It makes more sense for attraction and repulsion to create... existence erasure???
TheGunsFinalWrath said:

Erase Mahoraga in one hit. - Shishiso TL
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  1. Without supporting evidence, the word "erase" is functionally useless.
  2. The word "消す" = "to erase; to rub out; to rub off; to cross out; to delete". In fact, the primary kanji, 消 = "extinguish, blow out, turn off, neutralize, cancel".
 
Nullflowerblush said:
No, the term is "virtual mass" (仮想の質量 kasō no shitsuryo), which mirrors the real world physics concept (仮想質量 kasō shitsuryo).
物体が流体中を運動するとき、周囲の流体も同時に動くため、真空中における運動に比べて増加する見かけ上の質量のこと。仮想質量は物体の形状によって異なり、排除する流体の質量に比例する。誘導質量。付加質量。
"When an object is in motion in a fluid, the apparent mass of the object is increased compared to motion in a vacuum because the surrounding fluid is moving simultaneously. The virtual mass depends on the shape of the object and is proportional to the mass of the fluid to be excluded. Induced mass. Added mass."
一様流中を移動している分散相（粒子）が加速した場合、粒子近傍の流体も加速します。この場合、粒子は加速度運動に関わる流体の質量に比例する速度を流体に与えなければなりません。その反作用として粒子は流体から同等の力を受けます。これが仮想質量力です。
"When a displaced particle traveling in a uniform motion accelerates, the fluid surrounding the particle also accelerates. In this case, the particle must impart to the fluid a velocity proportional to the mass of the fluid involved in the accelerated motion. As a reaction, the particle receives an equivalent force from the fluid. This is the virtual mass force."
質量 m の粒子が加速運動する場合，粒子は進行方向の流体を押しのけ，その流体を加速しなければならない。このため，周りの流体の加速に必要な力の分だけ粒子の質量が見掛け上大きくなる。これを，付加質量という。
"When a particle of mass m is in accelerated motion, the particle must force aside the fluid in its direction of motion and accelerate said fluid. Therefore, the particle's mass is observably amplified by the force required to accelerate the surrounding fluid. This is called added mass."
In layman's terms (I gotcha), when an object travels through a fluid (e.g., air), its apparent mass is increased proportionally to the mass of the fluid being displaced by its direction of motion/force; the concept is briefly invoked by Yuki and by Kenjaku; her literal mass is constant, but virtual mass makes her feel heavier.

Say, I run three pound marble through a stream of water.
Its literal mass is constant, but the force being imposed by its motion and the displacement of the water itself is contributing to an "additional" mass.

It is, by all means, an "invisible ki blast", with the Infinities of Red and Blue imposing a force onto the surrounding fluid that, in turn, generates a virtual mass.

It makes more sense for attraction and repulsion to create... existence erasure???

  1. Without supporting evidence, the word "erase" is functionally useless.
  2. The word "消す" = "to erase; to rub out; to rub off; to cross out; to delete". In fact, the primary kanji, 消 = "extinguish, blow out, turn off, neutralize, cancel".
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I blame Gege for just making it basically just a stronger Red
 
Nullflowerblush said:
No, the term is "virtual mass" (仮想の質量 kasō no shitsuryo), which mirrors the real world physics concept (仮想質量 kasō shitsuryo).
物体が流体中を運動するとき、周囲の流体も同時に動くため、真空中における運動に比べて増加する見かけ上の質量のこと。仮想質量は物体の形状によって異なり、排除する流体の質量に比例する。誘導質量。付加質量。
"When an object is in motion in a fluid, the apparent mass of the object is increased compared to motion in a vacuum because the surrounding fluid is moving simultaneously. The virtual mass depends on the shape of the object and is proportional to the mass of the fluid to be excluded. Induced mass. Added mass."
一様流中を移動している分散相（粒子）が加速した場合、粒子近傍の流体も加速します。この場合、粒子は加速度運動に関わる流体の質量に比例する速度を流体に与えなければなりません。その反作用として粒子は流体から同等の力を受けます。これが仮想質量力です。
"When a displaced particle traveling in a uniform motion accelerates, the fluid surrounding the particle also accelerates. In this case, the particle must impart to the fluid a velocity proportional to the mass of the fluid involved in the accelerated motion. As a reaction, the particle receives an equivalent force from the fluid. This is the virtual mass force."
質量 m の粒子が加速運動する場合，粒子は進行方向の流体を押しのけ，その流体を加速しなければならない。このため，周りの流体の加速に必要な力の分だけ粒子の質量が見掛け上大きくなる。これを，付加質量という。
"When a particle of mass m is in accelerated motion, the particle must force aside the fluid in its direction of motion and accelerate said fluid. Therefore, the particle's mass is observably amplified by the force required to accelerate the surrounding fluid. This is called added mass."
In layman's terms (I gotcha), when an object travels through a fluid (e.g., air), its apparent mass is increased proportionally to the mass of the fluid being displaced by its direction of motion/force; the concept is briefly invoked by Yuki and by Kenjaku; her literal mass is constant, but virtual mass makes her feel heavier.

Say, I run three pound marble through a stream of water.
Its literal mass is constant, but the force being imposed by its motion and the displacement of the water itself is contributing to an "additional" mass.

It is, by all means, an "invisible ki blast", with the Infinities of Red and Blue imposing a force onto the surrounding fluid that, in turn, generates a virtual mass.

It makes more sense for attraction and repulsion to create... existence erasure???

  1. Without supporting evidence, the word "erase" is functionally useless.
    1. The word "消す" = "to erase; to rub out; to rub off; to cross out; to delete". In fact, the primary kanji, 消 = "extinguish, blow out, turn off, neutralize, cancel".
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Imagine being this wrong smh
 
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