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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

M3X_2.0 said:
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Kenny's first crush was Sukuna. Because she couldn't get him. She started dating his twin 😧
What a plot
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Isn't Kusakabe also lacks Sure hit and it's more like conditional for his domain?
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his auto his is pretty much his own version of a sure hit
EldemadeDityjon said:
Here. SSK itself doesn't have special property. It's special only if users can see the soul and cut it. Maki needs to see the soul and cut it. I don't think her speed can react to auto counter. If Kusakabe sword hits SSK it's shouldn't break.
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? where did ya get that?
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it says that it can cut through the soul directly and ignores the hardness of everything and it doesn't state that it can't do that if you don't see the soul or need to target some weak point it just flat out says if you want to use it to its fullest you need to see the soul of the inanimate which maki can very much do, just positioning the sword at the sharp angle would cause the katana of kusakabe to go by by
 
Sir_sun_man said:
his auto his is pretty much his own version of a sure hit
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It's conditional though?
Just remembered what happened with Miwa vs Maki. Her auto counter attacked Maki's tool so I guess SSK can gets hit by that
Sir_sun_man said:
? where did ya get that?
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it says that it can cut through the soul directly and ignores the hardness of everything and it doesn't state that it can't do that if you don't see the soul or need to target some weak point it just flat out says if you want to use it to its fullest you need to see the soul of the inanimate which maki can very much do, just positioning the sword at the sharp angle would cause the katana of kusakabe to go by by
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Check the bottom left it says use that users needs the eyes to see the soul
You see Maki couldn't cut through Sukuna's slashes? Which he was using his cover his body why do you think that?
If she can react to the auto counter I can say she can indeed cut Kusakabe sword but if her reaction speed can't keep up she won't be able to.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
It's conditional though?
Just remembered what happened with Miwa vs Maki. Her auto counter attacked Maki's tool so I guess SSK can gets hit by that

Check the bottom left it says use that users needs the eyes to see the soul
You see Maki couldn't cut through Sukuna's slashes? Which he was using his cover his body why do you think that?
If she can react to the auto counter I can say she can indeed cut Kusakabe sword but if her reaction speed can't keep up she won't be able to.
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you missed my point it says to use "the full potential" of the sword you need to see the soul of "inanimate objects" the soul split can cut through things without issue without that ability its just that it can be more easily gaurded against with inanimate objects if the user can't see their souls maki can see the soul of a katana easily and if kusakabe is going for the SSK all it would take for his katana to shatter or get cut through is just repositioning the sword.

as for why sukuna can block SSK I'd say that is because the man can see and target the soul and much like someone like nanami he can guard the soul as well as heal it unlike someone like nanami and unlike nanami he can do all that on command.
 
Sir_sun_man said:
you missed my point it says to use "the full potential" of the sword you need to see the soul of "inanimate objects" the soul split can cut through things without issue without that ability its just that it can be more easily gaurded against with inanimate objects if the user can't see their souls maki can see the soul of a katana easily and if kusakabe is going for the SSK all it would take for his katana to shatter or get cut through is just repositioning the sword.
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It seems like she still needs to work on her reaction speed. When Sukuna was off-guard, she cut off his hand, but when he was on guard, he protected himself with slashes. Similarly, Dismantle sent Maki flying when it hit the SSK. So it shouldn't automatically destroy opponents' weapons without Maki manually targeting souls in them.

What are the chances Kusakabe chops off the hands along with SSK, and he can also recreate his blade with CE. We don't see her cutting through something like that.
Sir_sun_man said:
as for why sukuna can block SSK I'd say that is because the man can see and target the soul and much like someone like nanami he can guard the soul as well as heal it unlike someone like nanami and unlike nanami he can do all that on command.
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His hand got chopped off when his guard was down though? I don't think he is projecting his soul. It seemed like he was intercepting with a slash whenever Maki tried to hit him
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
What are the chances Kusakabe chops off the hands along with SSK, and he can also recreate his blade with CE. We don't see her cutting through something like that.
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low, maki was able to take a BF from sukuna multiple times as well as his dismantles and even a cleave and it didn't fully cut through her, kusakabe barely left a few paper cuts on sukuna with his auto attack in his SD which was buffing his output while lowering sukunas (not gonna happen to maki since she has no CE to change) and maki can cut through CE since she ripped open cursed spirit naoya without even trying and cursed spirits are pure CE.
EldemadeDityjon said:
His hand got chopped off when his guard was down though? I don't think he is projecting his soul. It seemed like he was intercepting with a slash whenever Maki tried to hit him
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yeah cuse he was off guard you pointed out that yourself, to defend your soul you kinda need to know its being attacked.
 
Sir_sun_man said:
low, maki was able to take a BF from sukuna multiple times as well as his dismantles and even a cleave and it didn't fully cut through her, kusakabe barely left a few paper cuts on sukuna with his auto attack in his SD which was buffing his output while lowering sukunas (not gonna happen to maki since she has no CE to change) and maki can cut through CE since she ripped open cursed spirit naoya without even trying and cursed spirits are pure CE.

yeah cuse he was off guard you pointed out that yourself, to defend your soul you kinda need to know its being attacked.
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For now I will agree to disagree. I will be back with this topic when I have time. I have few arguments regarding Kusakabe vs Sukuna & Maki vs Sukuna to prove my point. But don't have any mood to argue this.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Hopefully Black Flash is fully explained next chapter. Its effects on the user, on the opponent that got hit etc.

Imagine the first mfer that hit it thinking what the **** just happened
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yeah I can just imagine ti being like a low level sorcerer fighting an equivalent of a nobel basically being thrown to the wolves to die and just at the last moment right before death they just land a black flash right to the face killing the nobel on the spot.

basically going :
I DID IT!... wait, how did I do that?
 
In 258-259, Yuji might awaken a blood manipulation based Domain Expansion because it reflects his love for his brother Choso, also because of the 3 clans, the Kamo Clan is the least discovered and doesn't have a Domain revealed yet cus the Gojo Clan has UV and the Zen'ins have CSG.
 
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EldemadeDityjon said:
Exception: Takaba
  1. Sukuna
  2. Gojo
  3. Kenjaku
  4. Yuki (people can cope for this)
  5. Yuta/JP Hakari/Kashimo
  6. Yorozu
  7. Yuji
  8. Uraume
  9. Ryu
  10. Uro
  11. Miguel
  12. Geto
  13. Jogo
  14. Base Hakari /Higuruma/Kusakabe/Awakened Gojo
  15. Maki/Toji/Laure
  16. Dagon/Hanami/Choso/Mahito
  17. Curse Naoya
  18. Naobito
  19. Mei Mei/Nanami/Todo
  20. Current Ino
  21. Kamo
  22. Naoya (Again can keep coping)
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**** how did you get Base Hakari to awakened Gojo level?? whats he gonna do against him
 
Hmmm, can we really say it's Sukuna’s brother CT and not Sukuna’s?
If it was an inherited CT, Yuji would've unlocked it long ago, its not inherited
Sukuna’s twin CT is probably fuga not the opposite but idk without a proper translation of the chapter
 
How is the Yuji scaling going? I dont think we have a good measure to scale him right now.

Maybe above Maki? Not sure tbh

The problem is Sukuna keeps getting weaker and weaker everytime Yuji hits him so Sukuna is in a bad match up here.
 
Technically Yuji was brushing off Sukuna's attacks and harming him even before the last 5 Black Flashes streak and we have to remember Sukuna already hit 4 black flashes before Yuji started tagging him.

Compared to Maki who couldn't hang out with that Sukuna for more than 2 pages and kept getting blown away. Sukuna's powerd up salesh took out Maki meanwhile Yuji literally run past them.

I think Yuji >Maki is a very fair take at this point.
 
Goddamn, this chapter was unreal. This crazy reveal that Itadori is actually Sukuna's twin brother from another era? I would've never guessed this. But I was still grinning like a dang doofus this entire chapter. I'm so glad to see Itadori finally stepping up as the MC and showing that he holds that title for a reason. Now that he's in the zone, he's able to land consecutive black flashes. I wonder if he's also able to land so many black flashes because of his resolve to fight for his friends. That would be a rather fitting reveal. But more than anything, I'm glad that Sukuna is finally being pushed to his limit. These past few chapters, there haven't been any "my technique I haven't used since the Heian Era" moments or Sukuna tanking the strongest attacks without any noticeable injury. The damage has piled up, and Itadori's standing strong as the sole line of defense. I just hope that the next chapters don't have more ridiculous ass-pulls that somehow give Sukuna a huge buff or something. I'm sure it's going to happen eventually, but I would expect there to be a good buff for the protagonists that make sense. At least now that Itadori's revealed to share lineage with Sukuna, that gives Gege more leeway to grant Yuji some extra powers or buffs.
 
Itadori will end up scaling to Yuta, at least in “Pre-Awakening”. Sukuna has a lot of “weakened” states since post Gojo and we need to rate each of them so the Jujutsu High characters can scale to that specific Sukuna.

Post Awakening only hit BFs as of now so his normal hits are unknown.

Can we please stop saying “stronger than Maki by feats” When the character does not have better feats than her?
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Sukuna hasn't whipped out the arrow yet but I have a theory that instead of going back to Sukuna Kaisen, Yuji is gonna pull up with it too
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Sukuna will open his domain
Yuji will open a domain too and keep bullying Sukuna
scenes switch to Shoko then, who has failed to heal Gojo, she will look at him and say "Your dream has come true"
Sukuna uses the fire arrow and goes all out, Yuta joins and opens his domain, Maki hits Sukuna with another sneak attack as usual
Sukuna will get killed by the dismantle that cuts the world, Yuji will mimic it just as its been hinted in this chapter by Uraume that Yuji has the same innate potential as Sukuna
 
But honestly, I feel it's hard to give Yuji a solid tier for upgrading based on the current fight. It's been established multiple times that Sukuna has been drastically weakened from his battles with Gojo and Yuta, as well as Maki's surprise attack with the Soul Split Katana. Then there's Itadori's punches that directly attack the soul. So by the time Itadori begins to fight and overpower Sukuna, he's only at a fraction of his former strength, which would make it much harder to guess a tier. At this point, we can only speculate what the new tiers would be.
 
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