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Antenna with poor receptionMy condolences to anyone still reading the VIZ translation, this is so ass
"Horsepower" Mf you aren't a car
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Sir_sun_man, think about this?! Look at what you're saying?! Are you really gonna attack...
w/some fire that might barely burn him? Pull out a gallon of acid and send his *** to the Shadow Realm!
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Let's see if people here are based or they think like KT:
- Adult Geto vs Naoya, who's faster
- Adult Geto vs Naoya, who's faster
Guacamolefletcher
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That thread was awful, but unfortunately I hadn't read JJK fully when it was made.
Hakari himself has 0 anti feats at all, and there is 100% a basis for Jackpot Hakari to have greater speed than someone like Yuta and to be insanely fast in general, it was just ignored in place of awful awful awful motivated reasoning. First of all, we know a casual Kashimo is already just insanely fast, secondly Hakari is outspeeding that Kashimo, third there's an actual on-screen feat. IDK why powerscalers are obssessed with lore confirmation of stuff. IF there's feats indicating it, then that's about enough, it's not that deep
There also is no lore basis for Mai to have insanely fast attack speed, but when not using rubber bullets, she uses guns with Muzzle velocities near the speed of sound, yet her attack speed is never hyped up. Same with her usage of snipers. Snipers fire around mach 3, yet she's never hyped up to have something over 3x faster than Naoya
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Guacamolefletcher
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actually, according to the fanbook she uses a Smith & Wesson Model 629, which has just straight up supersonic attack speed when using real bullets. It's 411 m/s
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Unironically bro had a MHS feat back in shibuya then bro like a hundred chapters later says "Imma use a supersonic attack against Gojo, that'll work."
Guacamolefletcher
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This is a bad argument. Why is it capped at supersonic when he uses it vs Gojo? That makes no sense.
It's like saying that Jiren is Planetary because Vegeta uses a Galick Gun against Jiren, and the Galick Gun is hyped up to be able to destroy planet earth in the Namek Saga. The technique being supersonic when fodder uses it doesn't mean f*cking Sukuna has his capped at 1-5x the speed of sound
Your crt was bad
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It doesn’t matter that much. What got it scrapped was the fact that it was a huge outlier.
Also, given how you argue here, I can confidently say that you’re not capable of reverting it.
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You had a bunch of horrible misreadings in there too, like "Naobito barely moves a meter in 1/24th per second" in your CRT, which was embarrassing
Not getting passed on VSBW because of standards =/= the argument is untrue
Also that "Sukuna uses a supersonic attack vs Gojo stuff, meaning Gojo is closer to 1-5x the speed of sound" is just a bad argument.
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This is literally what is drawn in the manga though.
I mean if you believe MHS JJK that much you can get the **** outta here. A verse that is mostly composed of Subsonic to Supersonic feats is not getting a special treatment just because you don’t like how things work.
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Prove that. BTW drawings to explain how animation following physics work aren't examples of Naobito moving at peak speeds using 24fps movement.
If you made the claim you need to evidence it in an honest manner, which obviously your thread didn't because there is 0 proof of this
If your standard is top tiers have subsonic to supersonic feats meaning god tiers can't be MHS+ because it's outlier-ish, then it's a bad argument. This entire outlier mentality is just not a good standard to have, and scaling isn't statistics. People getting a good feat is only an outlier if there's lore contradicting it, but it being way faster than everything else isn't proof of it being inherently contradictory.
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No. I'm not debating you.
You don't even believe the rating dude. You just want their speed to be as high as possible for the sake of it. There is not enough evidence for MHS like there is for Subsonic to Supersonic. Dozens of calcs, a lot of statements, etc.
We're not making them MHS unless the manga gives us valid reasons and feats. If you try to revert the rating then I'm making it a discussion rule. It's up to you.
Guacamolefletcher
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No? I just look at a feat and I don't apply a bias and discredit it for no good reason.
There is a literal feat though. You're acting like it's pulled out of nothing, when we literally have a basis for it. We don't have like 30 feats, sure, but it's a basis nontheless. A lack of MHS+ calcs doesn't mean people can't be fast.
Sure, but your thread didn't either, it just made the claim when it's:
- Not supported by lore
- Never happens in the story
I don't want to revert the speed shit and add MHS+, idc about that, I just want to revert the bad arguments that are currently accepted, because they're bad and inaccurate inverse-wise
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Then we have nothing to discuss. MHS is an outlier and will remain as such until the manga gives valid feats.
Guacamolefletcher
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Abiding by wiki standards, this doesn't mean that it is inherently not the case like you claim
your thread, we canm because it's bad and has numerous un-cited things and innacurate statements
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Guacamolefletcher
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I'm NGL, aside from jokes and whatnot, I whole-heartedly agree that FTL is wank, lol. Black flash caps the verse
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IIRC We actually had a couple of HS-MHS calcs laying around but either they were all discredited as outliers/lore says otherwise, not evaluated, or calc just bad.
Either way, doubt MHS JJK is happening any time soon, even if the arguments to disprove them were ass, because the arguments for MHS JJK are pretty weak themselves (from what I remember).
Either way, doubt MHS JJK is happening any time soon, even if the arguments to disprove them were ass, because the arguments for MHS JJK are pretty weak themselves (from what I remember).
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Giannysmag
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I've promised to make it happen one day
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Watch miguel start moving to outer space and back in nano second
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Every time I open this thread I cry
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Who's faster
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Naoya obviously
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH SUKUNA VICTIM
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Jujutsu sorcerers should have resistance to fusionism. It was stated that they can resist the merger by protecting themselves with CE and the culling games purpose was to gather CE to fuel the merger.
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not yet it was a hypothesis by kusakabe so unless we see them resist the fusion thing it ain't applicable as of now
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hit the nail on the bloody head
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Somehow FTL has more justification than MHS
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hit the nail on the bloody head
Watched the video last night and I gotta say, everything he said was entirely right.
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you're gonna be saying that till the ending and even past it aren't you?
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Me 50 years later after the series is already over: "He's coming back, I'm sure of it. Gege is gonna announce the sequel, Bujutsu Baisen: The Next Generation and Gojo is going to come back."
Nah but fr it'd only be worse if he comes back but it would be hilarious to me if he does come back and then gets one shot the same chapter
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yeah and we'll get the next villains being way stronger than sukuna from haian era who just happen to know everything he did and all of them also have 4 arms and 2 mouths. trust!
OH MAN IMAGINE! the sheer LEVEL! if outrage that were to occur.
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Cope
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No, there isn’t.
Starting off, MHS Hakari puts him above quite literally everyone in speed minus Gojo and Sukuna. If this was the case, then Maki wouldn’t have needed to make the statement that Kenjaku simply cannot be killed by conventional means, as Hakari would simply speedblitz him and kill him. Takeba’s existence would be necessary to distract Kenjaku if Hakari was that fast.
Secondly, he’s been tagged, and reacted to, by someone like Uraume on multiple occasions, meaning Uraume would also be MHS, yet still considered Piercing Blood extremely fast, unless you’re to believe Uraume got stronger between Shibuya and Shinjuku. Also, Kashimo being “insanely fast” is just headcanon. He has a total of three fights, in which even Gorilla Mode Panda can tag him, and with Hakari, which just means they’re relative to each other.
This speed wank for Hakari needs to die.
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So do ye folk think Ui Ui is helping Shoko to make Edo Tensei's with the bodies or what, because he is clearly not risking his life to retrieve them to simply bury and mourn. It is probably going to be a big plot point.
Speaking of big plot points, might they fear that "Fuga" is actually based on Sukuna eating people to store CTs and that's why they are swift to remove them?
Speaking of big plot points, might they fear that "Fuga" is actually based on Sukuna eating people to store CTs and that's why they are swift to remove them?
