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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

No, there isn’t.

Starting off, MHS Hakari puts him above quite literally everyone in speed minus Gojo and Sukuna. If this was the case, then Maki wouldn’t have needed to make the statement that Kenjaku simply cannot be killed by conventional means, as Hakari would simply speedblitz him and kill him. Takeba’s existence would be necessary to distract Kenjaku if Hakari was that fast.

Secondly, he’s been tagged, and reacted to, by someone like Uraume on multiple occasions, meaning Uraume would also be MHS, yet still considered Piercing Blood extremely fast, unless you’re to believe Uraume got stronger between Shibuya and Shinjuku. Also, Kashimo being “insanely fast” is just headcanon. He has a total of three fights, in which even Gorilla Mode Panda can tag him, and with Hakari, which just means they’re relative to each other.

This speed wank for Hakari needs to die.
Not to mention how the lightning dodge is actually Mach 6000 and makes Kashimo's moveset look stupid for having him land 5 physical punches to throw an attack that's x6 slower than his regular combat speed 💀
 
No, there isn’t.

Starting off, MHS Hakari puts him above quite literally everyone in speed minus Gojo and Sukuna. If this was the case, then Maki wouldn’t have needed to make the statement that Kenjaku simply cannot be killed by conventional means, as Hakari would simply speedblitz him and kill him. Takeba’s existence would be necessary to distract Kenjaku if Hakari was that fast.
It only does if you're dumb like certain individuals who think Naoya is faster than Yuta and Maki, when he's not. Kenjaku can just be around that speed too...

Maximum Output: Frost Calm > Piercing Blood > Uraume ~ Hakari ~ Literal Lightning. That’s legit the scaling if you think Hakari is deadass lightning speed. A completely foolish and ridiculous line of argumentation.
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Holding back Uraume catches piercing blood at point-blank range. Uraume only ever goes all out against Hakari.
Secondly, he’s been tagged, and reacted to, by someone like Uraume on multiple occasions, meaning Uraume would also be MHS, yet still considered Piercing Blood extremely fast
While holding back, he was caught offguard by its speed, he never said "damn the speed of this piercing blood > everyone I know. He never expected some fodder grade 1 sorcerer-level character to have an attack at that speed, especially when the speed was increased and sound barrier broken a meter away from Uraume.

This is the level of reasoning you'd expect from the type of people who think Maki ~ 15 Finger Sukuna in speed and that 15 Finger Sukuna didn't just blitz Ryu

Piercing Blood > Uraume ~ Hakari
This is especially dishonest when you read in context, and you see people like Yuta ~ Kenjaku in speed, who could casually dodge piercing blood at point-blank range, and Hakari is at least equal to Yuta in speed
 
If you think Yuta is faster than Naoya then you're an idiot or a Yutasexual and I won't hold back at all in shaming whoever believes that
 
If you think Yuta is faster than Naoya then you're an idiot or a Yutasexual and I won't hold back at all in shaming whoever believes that
If you think Naoya is faster than Yuta, you just like the "unusual individual" a lot, and don't understand JJK

You specifically have shown yourself to be a motivated reasoner and to use faulty lines of logic on purpose to support your agendas
 
Can't ever quote it though

I know scalers who have gotten banned from this site due to poor argumentation that are better debaters than you
 
Nobody said he gets badly blitzed... ever
You think Yuta = Yuji in speed, and he was going all out against him in Shibuya, the same Yuji who got BADLY blitzed by a Naoya who wasn't even going all out besides not stacking projection sorcery

So basically your scaling chain is:

"Yuta (all out) ~ Yuji (both AP and speed, since that same Yuji broke Yuta's sword and you think he went all out) <<<<< Naoya (holding back) < Naoya (all out) < Naoya (stacked)
 
That's like making a thread saying "Gojo's the strongest sorcerer, he should scale above Grade 4 sorcerers"

i GoT tHaT aCcEpTeD
 
It's so painful to look at it, it's almost funny.
my pain reseptors burned out ages ago I am just looking at this mess like
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I mean its just so bloody stupid, but so god damned funny
 
That's like making a thread saying "Gojo's the strongest sorcerer, he should scale above Grade 4 sorcerers"

i GoT tHaT aCcEpTeD
Nah, you’ll see the thread I’ll make next; I’m adding to Sukuna’s justification that he scales above Sugawara no Michizane, who is stated to be relative to Gojo in the novel
 
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