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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Arkenis said:
The thing you guys are missing is the pause, its shown in both trans that he's pausing in between, "..." I just left it out in mine cuz I didn't think it was needed to understand the context.
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"..." doesn't exist in Raws you sent and also "..." can mean pause but sometimes it's just connecting two lines there is no big meaning behind. Also if we take the next line where he said when he is not accelerating his durability isn't that tough seems like his base durability is weak nonetheless because he is using a binding vow to increase the Durability when he is on the run.
 
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M3X_2.0 said:
Angel's Ct is stated
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I also read OPscans couldn't find the statement. Miya removed the raws so I can't check it.

Edit: Forget it I found the another translation. You're right
eibwen said:
The whole condition thing was just someone guessing in the story wasnt it? cuz we dont really assume that yuta ates something from toge's body
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Well Blood can be enough though it's not stated Body parts itself should be eaten
 
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AnAverageUsername said:
Why does the design go hard
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simple since its the reading comprehension devil it gets cooler and stonger the more people fear reading and comprehanding whats on the paper

Ever since the wide spread of JJk and CSM the power of this devil has gone straight through the roof.

He gonna fight the death devil soon since people can't comprehend when a character is actually dead.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
"..." doesn't exist in Raws you sent and also "..." can mean pause but sometimes it's just connecting two lines there is no big meaning behind. Also if we take the next line where he said when he is not accelerating his isn't isn't that tough seems like his base durability is weak nonetheless because he is using a binding vow to increase the Durability when he is on the run.
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Yeah Kamo's talking about when he does the binding vow no one said otherwise. But the way it reads is that he's comparing Naoya to Hanami and saying Hanami doesn't compare.
 
Arkenis said:
Yeah Kamo's talking about when he does the binding vow no one said otherwise. But the way it reads is that he's comparing Naoya to Hanami and saying Hanami doesn't compare.
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I mean let's take the feats
  • Hanami who wasn't trying to kill and holding back against Yuji and Todo tanked 4BF and 1Hit from PC which is strong enough to kill Jogo. Jogo might have the upper hand due to his Curse Technique being fire, capable of burning down trees. The difference between him and Hanami isn't significant overall. Hanami could likely enhance durability further if they tried, but their fight mainly served as a distraction to steal Sukuna's fingers. When hit by the first Black Flash, Hanami's lower body was destroyed, yet later, with reinforcements from Cursed Energy, they endured four more Black Flashes and a direct PC HIT to the head. So, serious Hanami should be able to boost both durability and power with genuine effort.
  • On the human side, Naoya's great achievement is damaging weakened Choso with a Cursed tool. He managed to beat up a weakened awakened Maki, with his speed advantage, but got one shoted later. His major feat was blitzing Awakened Maki with a binding vow and keeping up with Kamo, who's semi-grade 1 Sorcerer level. Despite two awakenings, Kamo survived. When not accelerating, Naoya didn't seem to do much against Maki, except for his mach 3 blitz. His best durability feat was tanking a hit from weakened Choso already worn out by the Shibuya Incident.
Overall what I'm saying is Hanami withstood attacks from two Grade 1 Sorcerer level opponents, while even cursed Naoya sustained damage from Semi-grade 1 Sorcerer level attacks. Human Naoya endured hits from Choso, a Grade 1 Sorcerer level, albeit weakened. Considering that only 12 days passed between the Shibuya Incident and Kamo's fight in the Colony, it seems unlikely for Kamo to jump from Semi-grade 1 Sorcerer level to Grade 1 Sorcerer level, surpassing Todo in the process. In Shibuya, Mechamaru clearly labeled him as ineffective, suggesting he was still weaker than Todo. The incident involved only Grade 1 level candidates and actual Grade 1 Sorcerers (excluding assistants), I don't see Kamo's suddenly rising to Grade 1 level out of nowhere without a statement for training or anything.

Cursed Naoya lacks feats for enduring hits from Awakened Maki, considering she lacks Cursed Energy. Physical attacks wouldn't harm him in his Cursed form. Moreover, his human form got one shoted, so that argument doesn't work. Just saying.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
I mean let's take the feats
  • Hanami who wasn't trying to kill and holding back against Yuji and Todo tanked 4BF and 1Hit from PC which is strong enough to kill Jogo. Jogo might have the upper hand due to his Curse Technique being fire, capable of burning down trees. The difference between him and Hanami isn't significant overall. Hanami could likely enhance durability further if they tried, but their fight mainly served as a distraction to steal Sukuna's fingers. When hit by the first Black Flash, Hanami's lower body was destroyed, yet later, with reinforcements from Cursed Energy, they endured four more Black Flashes and a direct PC HIT to the head. So, serious Hanami should be able to boost both durability and power with genuine effort.
  • On the human side, Naoya's great achievement is damaging weakened Choso with a Cursed tool. He managed to beat up a weakened awakened Maki, with his speed advantage, but got one shoted later. His major feat was blitzing Awakened Maki with a binding vow and keeping up with Kamo, who's semi-grade 1 Sorcerer level. Despite two awakenings, Kamo survived. When not accelerating, Naoya didn't seem to do much against Maki, except for his mach 3 blitz. His best durability feat was tanking a hit from weakened Choso already worn out by the Shibuya Incident.
Overall what I'm saying is Hanami withstood attacks from two Grade 1 Sorcerer level opponents, while even cursed Naoya sustained damage from Semi-grade 1 Sorcerer level attacks. Human Naoya endured hits from Choso, a Grade 1 Sorcerer level, albeit weakened. Considering that only 12 days passed between the Shibuya Incident and Kamo's fight in the Colony, it seems unlikely for Kamo to jump from Semi-grade 1 Sorcerer level to Grade 1 Sorcerer level, surpassing Todo in the process. In Shibuya, Mechamaru clearly labeled him as ineffective, suggesting he was still weaker than Todo. The incident involved only Grade 1 level candidates and actual Grade 1 Sorcerers (excluding assistants), I don't see Kamo's suddenly rising to Grade 1 level out of nowhere without a statement for training or anything.

Cursed Naoya lacks feats for enduring hits from Awakened Maki, considering she lacks Cursed Energy. Physical attacks wouldn't harm him in his Cursed form. Moreover, his human form got one shoted, so that argument doesn't work. Just saying.
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Ima be honest, I have zero idea what you're arguing against. The statement is clear that Naoya's durability is greater than Hanami's with the binding vow. If you think I translated it wrong then find someone to trans it.
 
Arkenis said:
Ima be honest, I have zero idea what you're arguing against. The statement is clear that Naoya's durability is greater than Hanami's with the binding vow. If you think I translated it wrong then find someone to trans it.
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I didn't say your translation is wrong I'm saying that wording context can be taken differently.
 
BadSystems said:
Idt so. Her binding vow was that that would be her last swing ever. She can't take that back because the consequences of the binding vow are in the past now.
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Binding vow are stated to be can be undone if the user puts on themselves. Miwa objective was to kill Kenny so she out everything on her swing and never swing again. It's likely possible that she can now remove that binding vow. Idk just saying.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Binding vow are stated to be can be undone if the user puts on themselves. Miwa objective was to kill Kenny so she out everything on her swing and never swing again. It's likely possible that she can now remove that binding vow. Idk just saying.
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Binding vows get undone by taking back what you gave. It's not like she can go back in time and stop herself from doing that swing, so she can't take it back.
 
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