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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

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EldemadeDityjon said:
Wasn't value used for Blizting subsonic speed calcs is .0291 the current Calculation uses .08 as Maki with superhuman reaction speed.
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Are you saying that since Maki's calc gets her to subsonic reactions, Naobito's calc should now use .0291 since that's subsonic reactions and he blitzed her?
If so that is just calc stacking based off the value from Maki's calc. We'd need statements to give such a reaction for the calc and even then such a calc would be thrown out since it'd put Naobito at mach 2.2. 22.4847051/.0291 = 772.6702784m/s
 
Arkenis said:
Are you saying that since Maki's calc gets her to subsonic reactions, Naobito's calc should now use .0291 since that's subsonic reactions and he blitzed her?
If so that is just calc stacking based off the value from Maki's calc. We'd need statements to give such a reaction for the calc and even then such a calc would be thrown out since it'd put Naobito at mach 2.2. 22.4847051/.0291 = 772.6702784m/s
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Don't we have a statement about Todo having a reaction time of 0.01 seconds? Regarding Maki's able to see a bullet in slow motion and catch it, while I'm not into the calculations, isn't it reasonable to suggest she possesses subsonic reaction speed?
 
I do wanna mention Naobito isnt affected by the mach 1 Human Naoya since he is outright stated to be the fastest. He is only effected by the mach 3 cap, since Kamo calls mach 3 Naoya the fastest he has ever seen, despite referencing Naobito prior
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Don't we have a statement about Todo having a reaction time of 0.01 seconds? Regarding Maki's able to see a bullet in slow motion and catch it, while I'm not into the calculations, isn't it reasonable to suggest she possesses subsonic reaction speed?
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Nah its not reasonable, Todo's reaction time can just be higher canonically, Todo does fight Hanami who tries harder against him and Yuji. Todo's also just superior to Maki during gw.


Giannysmag said:
I do wanna mention Naobito isnt affected by the mach 1 Human Naoya since he is outright stated to be the fastest. He is only effected by the mach 3 cap, since Kamo calls mach 3 Naoya the fastest he has ever seen, despite referencing Naobito prior
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Naoya shows us a sonic boom, Naobito does not. And Naobito's statement is inference to his strategic framing and timing along with the ct use, aka he's considered the fastest because of how good he is with the ct, not because he's just simply faster. Naoya and Naobito's ct speed never show a difference in speed overall.
 
Arkenis said:
Naoya shows us a sonic boom, Naobito does not. And Naobito's statement is inference to his strategic framing and timing along with the ct use, aka he's considered the fastest because of how good he is with the ct, not because he's just simply faster. Naoya and Naobito's ct speed never show a difference in speed overall.
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Being more effecient with his CT means he can build up more speed, so stacked Nayoa < stacked Naobito, but ig that doesnt matter to this feat in particular so fair enough
 
Arkenis said:
Nah its not reasonable, Todo's reaction time can just be higher canonically, Todo does fight Hanami who tries harder against him and Yuji. Todo's also just superior to Maki during gw.
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Naobito didn't just blitzed Maki he also Blitzed Nanami who is also grade 1 Sorcerer and relative to Yuji in speed.
Arkenis said:
Naoya shows us a sonic boom, Naobito does not. And Naobito's statement is inference to his strategic framing and timing along with the ct use, aka he's considered the fastest because of how good he is with the ct, not because he's just simply faster. Naoya and Naobito's ct speed never show a difference in speed overall.
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It includes both speed and CT. Fanbook literally states that.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Naobito didn't just blitzed Maki he also Blitzed Nanami who is also grade 1 Sorcerer and relative to Yuji in speed.
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So?

EldemadeDityjon said:
It includes both speed and CT. Fanbook literally states that.
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And manga tells us he became known as the fastest through his natural born sense of strategic timing and framing, this has nothing to do with speed but how he’s able to coordinate himself with the ct.
 
Arkenis said:
So?
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Subsonic reaction speed based on Nanami or maki should work.
Arkenis said:
And manga tells us he became known as the fastest through his natural born sense of strategic timing and framing, this has nothing to do with speed but how he’s able to coordinate himself with the ct.
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Fanbook is extension of what Gege couldn't explain it in manga. Why disregard Fanbook statement for this only while you guys accept the same thing for other characters. Also how him using strategic time , framing gonna disregard him being fast? He can do all those thing so it doesn't Contradicts anything.
By dividing 1 second into 24 parts, his visibility becomes a 24 panels. By moving in advance, he can create a hit in certain point of the anime panel. After that, he traces the movement with high speed. Both the sorcerer himself and the object touches by the sorcerer must be made into 1/24 second for the movement to be projected, but if a failure to happen, freeze will happen for 1 second. For enemy who doesn’t know this technique, in order to freeze them with high chance, if the sorcerer hit the panel successfully, it will feel like 1 second has passed. With this technique, Naobito can perform super speed action, that he is called as the fastest sorcerer.
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EldemadeDityjon said:
Fanbook is extension of what Gege couldn't explain it in manga. Why disregard Fanbook statement for this only while you guys accept the same thing for other characters. Also how him using strategic time , framing gonna disregard him being fast? He can do all those thing so it doesn't Contradicts anything.
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Idk what you're tryna argue, the manga tells us how Naobito became the fastest, it wasn't simply due to the speed of the ct, but because of how good he was with the ct. Its not like the databook gave us a more detailed explaining of how he became the fastest, the manga did that, the databook leaves this out. Why use that when Gege has it explained in manga.

EldemadeDityjon said:
Subsonic reaction speed based on Nanami or maki should work.
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This was tried with different characters for other calcs before already and dismissed so nah idt so.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Naobito didn't just blitzed Maki he also Blitzed Nanami who is also grade 1 Sorcerer and relative to Yuji in speed.
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Then you can't use 22.5 meters because that distance is for blitzing Dagon, Maki and Nanami weren't looking at Naobito's direction
 
Arkenis said:
Idk what you're tryna argue, the manga tells us how Naobito became the fastest, it wasn't simply due to the speed of the ct, but because of how good he was with the ct. Its not like the databook gave us a more detailed explaining of how he became the fastest, the manga did that, the databook leaves this out. Why use that when Gege has it explained in manga.
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I mean to make a good timing speed also very important but now I realised you are replying to @Giannysmag 😭😭😭 no wonder I felt something off. This doesn't even has anything to do with what I asked regarding Naobito Blizting maki and Nanami to use 0.0291
Arkenis said:
This was tried with different characters for other calcs before already and dismissed so nah idt so.
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Why it got dismissed? I can see it being an some outlier or something for other characters but I specifically brought this out as Naobito was the fastest (Second to Gojo) so I was wondering it doens't Contradicts with Narrative.
SunDaGamer said:
Then you can't use 22.5 meters because that distance is for blitzing Dagon, Maki and Nanami weren't looking at Naobito's direction
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Oh Okay 🗿 someone should change the title then I thought it was due to blitzing 3 of them.
Naobito blitzes Nanami, Maki and Cursed Womb Dagon
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Btw what distance we can use for Maki and Nanami?
 
Sir_sun_man said:
a whole month after they healed the injury*
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Just to clarify that's definitely not normal punch. It's Blue for sure as Hakari and Yuta explains how they felt. Gojos normal punches has zero statements for inducing pain. Especially Uraume also has RCT pain shouldn't even remain there.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Just to clarify that's definitely not normal punch. It's Blue for sure as Hakari and Yuta explains how they felt. Gojos normal punches has zero statements for inducing pain. Especially Uraume also has RCT pain shouldn't even remain there.
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i don't think RCT would remove pain

If anything it likely makes it worse since it would be restoring any and all damage to your nerves making the pain even more intense (which really shows how ****** the sheer resistence to pain hakari, gojo and sukuna have)
 
Giannysmag said:
Sure but even a blue amped punch might as well have 0 AP behind it compared to a 200% Hollow Purple
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Eh only a casual one maybe.

A blue punch from gojo was able to go through sukunas rib cage during their clashes.

It no where near vaporizing his arm levels of power but its still something.
 
Sir_sun_man said:
i don't think RCT would remove pain

If anything it likely makes it worse since it would be restoring any and all damage to your nerves making the pain even more intense (which really shows how ****** the sheer resistence to pain hakari, gojo and sukuna have)
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Her hand literally got pierced by Choso's PB and Poision and we don't see she is complaining after Shibuya incident heck after she healed it she didn't say anything about Pain. She even didn't cared at that point.

Also Gojo used Blue punches while playing with Jogo. I don't see why he would hold back against Uraume when he was in killing zone against them. He was already pissed to the point dude was about to one shot Kenjaku.
Giannysmag said:
Sure but even a blue amped punch might as well have 0 AP behind it compared to a 200% Hollow Purple
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I don't know what you are trying to say but all I'm saying is stop Downplaying it as Normal punch I'm not claiming she scales to the attack. But it's just too much of an downplay to say Gojo was holding back and used normal punch there while his in character he casually uses blue punches.
 
Sir_sun_man said:
A blue punch from gojo was able to go through sukunas rib cage during their clashes.
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Go through rib cage when Sukuna wasn't defending instead dude was under UV affects. Can I see the scan when blue punch went through Sukuna ribcage when his CE Reinforcements was active?
 
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EldemadeDityjon said:
Her hand literally got pierced by Choso's PB and Poision and we don't see she is complaining after Shibuya incident heck after she healed it she didn't say anything about Pain. She even didn't cared at that point.

Also Gojo used Blue punches while playing with Jogo. I don't see why he would hold back against Uraume when he was in killing zone against them. He was already pissed to the point dude was about to one shot Kenjaku.
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That don't really mean much, I mean just high pain tolarance, she didn't complain as the hole was there.
EldemadeDityjon said:
I don't know what you are trying to say but all I'm saying is stop Downplaying it as Normal punch I'm claiming she scales to the attack. But it's just too much of an downplay to say Gojo was holding back and used normal punch there while his in character he casually used blue punches.
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I mean he definitly used a blue punch but he was definitly holding back.

I mean he is capable of smashing a whole ass fist sized indent into sukunas chest if he hit uraume with that same level of force he'd punch square through the bitch.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
I don't know what you are trying to say but all I'm saying is stop Downplaying it as Normal punch I'm claiming she scales to the attack. But it's just too much of an downplay to say Gojo was holding back and used normal punch there while his in character he casually used blue punches.
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I'm saying that no matter how strong the blue amped punch is, it's still way weaker than HP and Uraume got one shot by it, so she is absolutely not scaling to an amped purple
 
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