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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Arkenis said:
Sukuna deadass eats kids and women and likes killing strong people. What did Alucard do?
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Finally a worthy opponent.

*Alucard committed all of the crimes and atrocities that Bram's Dracula and the real Vlad the Implaer committed.


*One of the things Vlad did was roasting the child of a mother alive then force feeding that same child to her.
When the turkish Sultan Mehmed was at The Forest of The Impaled where he discovered some 10,000 or more people impaled on stakes he was so horrified. This very moment was recounted in a journal by one of the Sultans personal advisors who was with him at the time. He thusly describes the Sultans horror and says that Vlad even “had children impaled there and infants and babies were affixed to their mothers corpses on the stake”.

*One day Vlad was riding around Targoviste and came across a man working in a field. Vlad saw that his shirt was too short and asked him why this was and if it was because his wife was lazy. The man vehemently denied this and repeated how he loved his wife. Vlad had his guards get the man’s wife anyway, questioned her, and had her impaled right there for laziness. He then forcefully ordered another maiden to marry the man. Once they were married Vlad showed the new wife the previous ones fate and warned her against being lazy in the future.
 
Can we not scale Gojo above Maximum Meteor? I doubt Jogo would have such an inferiority complex after meeting Gojo if anything in his arsenal could even compare to him, it would also mean that Red is 7-B due to the x2 multiplier above Blue
 
SunDaGamer said:
Can we not scale Gojo above Maximum Meteor? I doubt Jogo would have such an inferiority complex after meeting Gojo if anything in his arsenal could even compare to him, it would also mean that Red is 7-B due to the x2 multiplier above Blue
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Well, dont we already scale 15 Fingers Sukuna to the meteor since Jogo stated that It wouldnt kill him and would just cause some damage?
 
LordGinSama said:
Finally a worthy opponent.

*Alucard committed all of the crimes and atrocities that Bram's Dracula and the real Vlad the Implaer committed.


*One of the things Vlad did was roasting the child of a mother alive then force feeding that same child to her.
When the turkish Sultan Mehmed was at The Forest of The Impaled where he discovered some 10,000 or more people impaled on stakes he was so horrified. This very moment was recounted in a journal by one of the Sultans personal advisors who was with him at the time. He thusly describes the Sultans horror and says that Vlad even “had children impaled there and infants and babies were affixed to their mothers corpses on the stake”.

*One day Vlad was riding around Targoviste and came across a man working in a field. Vlad saw that his shirt was too short and asked him why this was and if it was because his wife was lazy. The man vehemently denied this and repeated how he loved his wife. Vlad had his guards get the man’s wife anyway, questioned her, and had her impaled right there for laziness. He then forcefully ordered another maiden to marry the man. Once they were married Vlad showed the new wife the previous ones fate and warned her against being lazy in the future.
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I dont think we should assume that Hellsing is 1:1 with everything that the Bram's Dracula did. Is not as if we could assume that Hirano has some authority to do such a thing
 
Is the meteor calc higher? It shouldnt matter much, can just add the additional scaling to the profiles whenever ya can since its still the same tier for scaling.
 
FTL is out. New chapter was great. I liked how Takaba backstory and character is displayed in this chapter. It would be funny if Takaba joins Kenjaku because Kenny acknowledges Takaba in next chapter 😂
 
Damn great episode. It also shows Toji perception Blizting dagon multiple times. Also Jogo perception Blizting Nanami and Maki. Additionally it shows Jogo eyes were keeping up Naobita speed.
 
Great episode, unfortunately, the blurring and dimming that have been plaguing the season were extremely prevalent in the Toji scenes. Some of the worst in the reason so far. Really sucks that Japanese TV publishing limits animation so much. Looking forward to how those scenes look in the blu-ray.

Also, the early translations were extremely dogshit, not sure if anyone else noticed. Very poor word choice, like MT at certain times. Gonna have to rewatch the episode once they get updated.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
You remember me saying Jogo was keeping up with Naobito 👻
I was right
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The absolute obliteration of Naobito in the new episode has convinced me to join the Jogo agenda
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Giannysmag said:
The absolute obliteration of Naobito in the new episode has convinced me to join the Jogo agenda
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Also its good how episode shown that Naobita was stacking up speed just like Noaya if you clearly re-watch it you will know. I'm not sure if we can grant Jogo Transonic combat speed?
 
Giannysmag said:
Do we even count anime scenes as canon?
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It's clearly Extention for what manga couldn't grant us. Especially you see Toji blocked Red from Gojo in anime but manga skipped that we thought Toji tanked it. Anime shows some scenes with full context. So I don't know. Also Jogo was stronger than Dagon + smoked Nanami and Maki pack. Naobita going max speed does makes sense.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
I doubt bro. Mahito may outhax but honestly he is not winning in a test of power..
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I was partially joking, it'd be more like a high-extreme diff but here are the reasons i think Mahito wins
Giannysmag said:
First yes speed wise Jogo is faster. By how much is unquantifible but it is a sizable difference since Jogo >=< Noabito > Naoya >> Yuji =< Mahito, but i also dont think it matters much.

This is because Jogo cant actually hurt Mahito in a reasonable amount of time since he cant damage the soul. He would need to either one shot him or completely run him dry of CE. His only option for the first would be Maximoum Meteor which as mentioned above Panda and Kusakabe could avoide so Mahito should have no problem either.

Running him out of CE is unlikely either, considering how insane Mahito's stamina is. Just to put into perspctive how much CE and stamina this mf has, he got damaged repeaditly by two people that can attack his soul, took 2 black flashes, used several big moves and countless transfigured humans, used domain expansion then immideatly got decked in the face by black flash and only went down after being hit a fourth time by a maximoum output black flash. We also saw in the Ultimate Mechamaru fight that trying to chip away at Mahito isn't a good idea even for someone with special grade level output.

This means that while Mahito cant hit Jogo because of the speed gap, Jogo doesnt have a way of damaging Mahito. For this reason i believe the fight would come down to a domain battle and if that happens Mahito wins.

I say this since Mahito's domain both faster and likely more refined being able to activate both the barrier and his cursed technique at the same time, a feat only Gojo Satoru could do.

So while in terms of raw stats Jogo is superior, unless you are a top tier raw stats alone wont be enough to put down Mahito.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk and respect MaHIMto
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Giannysmag said:
I was partially joking, it'd be more like a high-extreme diff but here are the reasons i think Mahito wins
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No regarding Mahito domain it's misunderstood. Domain is not faster it's sure hit is faster that's all. Aside form that Jogo has more CE and better refined domain if we consider he already had the domain. Also Mahito was scared to deal with Sukuna despite we don't see Mahitos having knowledge on Sukuna eating other fingers. So most like he was still scared of 3F Sukuna alone. It's just my take though.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
No regarding Mahito domain it's misunderstood. Domain is not faster it's sure hit is faster that's all.
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No both the domain and the sure hit happen faster, we now this because SIOF's barrier appears and disappears before Yuji even has the time to sprint over to Mahito
EldemadeDityjon said:
better refined domain if we consider he already had the domain
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Mahito has some of the quickest growth in the series so i think it's possible he could have gained a more refined domain in a shorter timeframe
EldemadeDityjon said:
Also Mahito was scared to deal with Sukuna despite we don't see Mahitos having knowledge on Sukuna eating other fingers. So most like he was still scared of 3F Sukuna alone. It's just my take though.
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Jogo was also terrified of Sukuna simply by sensing him, the only reason he fought him was because it was part of his greater ideological goal. Both of them would get no diffed by Sukuna, Mahito just had no reason to bring him out
 
Giannysmag said:
No both the domain and the sure hit happen faster, we now this because SIOF's barrier appears and disappears before Yuji even has the time to sprint over to Mahito
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No because unlike Sukuna and Gojo domain Mahito needs to manually release his sure hit
Giannysmag said:
Mahito has some of the quickest growth in the series so i think it's possible he could have gained a more refined domain in a shorter timeframe
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Yeah but we wouldn't know. But when comes to CE output jogo Outscales so I think Domain battle he would just Outscales
Giannysmag said:
Jogo was also terrified of Sukuna simply by sensing him, the only reason he fought him was because it was part of his greater ideological goal. Both of them would get no diffed by Sukuna, Mahito just had no reason to bring him out
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I'm saying Jogo was stronger than 3F Sukuna meanwhile Mahito is weaker than 3F Sukuna.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
No because unlike Sukuna and Gojo domain Mahito needs to manually release his sure hit
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What does that have to do with what i said? Mahito's activation of the barrier and the sure hit still happen faster

Literally one moment he activates the domain, another the barrier disappears
EldemadeDityjon said:
Yeah but we wouldn't know. But when comes to CE output jogo Outscales so I think Domain battle he would just Outscales
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Fair, though in terms of pure feats of CE reserves i'd say Mahito is superior
EldemadeDityjon said:
I'm saying Jogo was stronger than 3F Sukuna meanwhile Mahito is weaker than 3F Sukuna.
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Ah i misinterpreted, still i know Jogo is stronger i just think Mahito's hax are enough to pull him through
 
Giannysmag said:
What does that have to do with what i said? Mahito's activation of the barrier and the sure hit still happen faster

Literally one moment he activates the domain, another the barrier disappears
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Yeah my bad I forgot Mahito had sure hit activated same time domain activated.
Giannysmag said:
Fair, though in terms of pure feats of CE reserves i'd say Mahito is superior
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I doubt Jogo was constantly fighting Gojo additionally going around and killing people with his own power meanwhile Mahito was chilling with transfigured humans. Though I can see him having stocks but I don't see Mahito having more CE than Jogo.
Giannysmag said:
Ah i misinterpreted, still i know Jogo is stronger i just think Mahito's hax are enough to pull him through
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EldemadeDityjon said:
I doubt bro. Mahito may outhax but honestly he is not winning in a test of power..
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^
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
I doubt Jogo was constantly fighting Gojo additionally going around and killing people with his own power meanwhile Mahito was chilling with transfigured humans. Though I can see him having stocks but I don't see Mahito having more CE than Jogo.
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Mahito used a ton of big AOE attacks, used domain expansion, took several black flashes, fought two people that could directly damage his soul and needed a Maximoum output black flash to finnaly put him down, bro is a monster of stamina
EldemadeDityjon said:
^
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Then aguess we just agree to diasgree
 
Giannysmag said:
Mahito used a ton of big AOE attacks, used domain expansion, took several black flashes, fought two people that could directly damage his soul and needed a Maximoum output black flash to finnaly put him down, bro is a monster of stamina
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No only Yuji was damaging him. He said Todo wasn't giving any damage to his soul despite using black flash.
Also Jogo used his max meteor and still had enough in the gas to keep going. He doesn't even seem to be weakened by CE lose. Especially he used most of it with Gojo and Sukuna + max Meteor.
Giannysmag said:
Then aguess we just agree to diasgree
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Sure 👍
 
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