I forgot to reply to this, mb.
Yoruzo beat Uro's squad so and she did land a few blows on 15F Sukuna so she's above Uro and Ryu, possibly Yuta as well but for Yuta it's just my headcanon because Yuta + Rika are OP in 1v1
Culling game Yuta > Yuki ~ Geto > JJK 0 Yuta
No what I meant is that Naobito is the 2nd fastest sorcerer so his speed would allow him to even react to people like Yuta, while we know that he's not even the 4th strongest sorcerer, do just because he's faster doesn't mean he will scale to everyone in AP.
That was 15F Sukuna with his CT, 15F Meguna with a nerfed CT could fight both Yuji and Maki physically.
Im not sure about Yuki~ Geto, Geto might be above her. (My headcanon but I don't know a scaling chain that links both of them)
My theory is Kenjaku has all of Gets abilities+ Mahito and other new special grade curses and he still needed to use his own DE to beat Yuki. She also smashed Asian elephant with zero diff. On my mind I have Yuki above Geto but generously I think we can just scale them to relative. Atleast.
Yeah they don't have much
Yeah.
Wasn't it stated somewhere that since Kenny used Uzumaki in Shibuya, he doesn't have much cursed spirits left to use cursed spirit manipulation at its fullest?
Well our logic of AP don't apply to each fiction, so I think in their respective perspective and logic that destroying large concrete walls are not stronger by a shotgun levels of power.
From what I remember Yuki thought that. If I remember correctly she was not talking about CE not about curses.
I will check it after a few hours because I need to go off now
Does this verse not include top tiers and god tiers? Sukuna and Gojo as the strongest in the verse would stand above everyone else at god tier while Special Grades and past sorcerers comparable to them would go in the top tier and baseline Grade 1 sorcerers at high tier.
I don’t know the exact reason I just remember seeing the CRT about the downgrade and that it was passed. Also I don’t believe Yuta is stronger than Kenjaku. The only statement we have for that is from Gojo who doesn’t know Kenjaku’s capabilities and Kenjaku himself stated Yuta would’ve lost to Geto had he not divided his cursed spirits so thinly before the fight.
Obv
There was a databook statement for yuta being next to Gojo but that only applies to current Era. So obviously I think Kenjaku scales above Yuta.
The fingers aren't necessarily linear increases in power, Gojo says that they grow stronger everyday and Jogo's surprise at the gap between him and 15F Sukuna despite knowing what his relativity to him should be implies that they're exponential
This statement is also revealed in Manga as far as I am not concerned.
We don't know anything about that grade and there's barely anything to scale that off of, Naobito < Jogo and the other Special Grade 1 Zenins were stomped by pre-Fully Realized Maki
I don't think Yuta is stronger than Kenny either lol
I'm saying that Special Grade 1 shouldn't rank you at "top tier", that tier should be reserved for the actual Special Grades like Yuta and Geto and past sorcerers on their level
It shouldn't really matter, Kenjaku said Jogo's power is generously 8 or 9F while he's the one who taught Sukuna how to divide his power, he didn't specify a certain fingers or something, Gojo is the one who said 2F is 10% of power and after pr when he saw Sukuna he didn't retract his thoughts, he still believes he will win.
I mean the verse is supposed to be every day normal real world, minus the obvious supernatural stuff. But its whatever, every fiction tends to be contradictory regardless what they say or do so its doesn't really matter, its just Gege being dumb.
In terms of pure AP he still should scale pretty far above considering a few things. 1 being that he completely demolished Dagon with a cursed tool without even any cursed technique imbued in it, just pure physical strength, 2 because of the fact that characters such as Maki and Yuji can harm 15f Sukuna and Toji scales to those characters. (Also Toji has tools that ignore durability too.)
He also fought Jogo entirely physically and was totally demolishing him so Maki tanking a punch from Meguna would scale her above Jogo with how they fared in taking the hits. Jogo had noticeably far more damage than Maki suffered.
Megumi stated physical movement was fine though which is why he said Yuji would be easy to kill however despite that he stated Maki wasn’t easy to take down after she had taken care of a stronger version of Nue. She also directly damaged Meguna meaning her AP scales to 15f Sukuna and ergo so does Toji’s.
No she doesn’t because she tanked a punch from 15f Meguna, who stated his physical movement was fine. And even then Maki damaged Sukuna who only stated that when he was attacking did his CE fluctuate, not when he was defending so her AP would still scale to 15f regardless. Even if Jogo and Toji are comparable however Toji would still rank > Jogo because of the aforementioned advantages he has over Jogo I mentioned earlier. Such as speed.
Pretty sure this has nothing to do with my point but sure dude nitpick the words all you want.
He is saying it is not entirely physically.
I know what he’s saying. But my point is that Sukuna fought Jogo’s physically and severely damaged him by doing as much, so going something like:
You said "entirely"; I suppose he thought you meant solely. Sorrry-
Didn't Gege's interview with math professor say otherwise?
That same panel has Sukuna saying his Cursed Energy Output is fluctuating (both TCB and Viz translations agree on this), output doesn't just affect Cursed Technique sit affects how powerful physical hits are too (as seen with Yuta's comment on Ryu's output) , Sukuna's 2nd comment in that panel is simply how much control he has over Megumi's body physically which is separate to his CE
Sukuna in that very same panel states Yuji would be easy to take down and we know Yuji is stronger than 1.5f Sukuna and Sukuna even states that his CE is fluctuating so he used his CT on the ground but because his physical movement was doing fine he square punched Maki in the face since that wasn’t being affected. So this would definitely be more in reference to his CT rather than his overall physical capabilities with CE.
Which would cause his CE Output to fluctuate again in that moment since he was attacking one of Megumi's allies and I'm not saying Maki is 1.5 Finger level, we'd just downscale her from 15 Finger Sukuna (especially since our AP ratings for Sukuna once revisions are done won't be linear anyways)
Why are you ignoring everything I said? That’s a very odd thing to do especially when I said this doesn’t change the argument I made.
I already showed a scan for Sukuna saying his CE output gets lower and lower when he tries to harm Maki and Yuji, movements seems to be fine isn't changing anything at all and Maki would not scale to 15F Sukuna
