EldemadeDityjon
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I think DE should scale to AP atleast as Creation. It's Just me though.
Just asking. Above sandbox is yours right. I was curious why this shouldn't be scaled. Not just you btw. I am asking overall case.
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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I don't recall making a sandbox for any JJK characters. I believe all I sent were calcs. You migh be looking at someone else's sandbox.
But yes, I think scaling Sorcerer's off of Domains for creation power (not commenting on ap) makes sense. Though I have a gave memory of Domains being somewhat illusory (as in, it's not actually as big as it looks from the inside, with their being boarders or something that one can touch and break open via their own DE).
Arkenis
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No one ever disagreed with them consuming ce, that's partly why we don't scale to domains, because they consume so much ce to the point a majority of characters can't do it multiple times a day therefore their regular attacks wouldn't scale otherwise they'd tire out in one attack.
Even with Gojo and Sukuna, there is no way of saying each and every regular attack they throw (punches and kicks) would be equal or greater to the ce used in Dagon or Jogo's domain. Same can be said for someone like Hakari as well, he may have a ton of ce but there is no proof that the punches and kicks he releases are now equal to domains ce usage.
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Think he's gonna pull a Kaguya situation with Sukuna to extend the story more?
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I think it'd be funny if he just revealed that Sukuna also has 10 severed toes he has to eat to gain back his true full power
EldemadeDityjon
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Kenjaku most probably gonna try to control Sukuna and All of others teams up to fight him
That one finger missing most probably Kenjaku has that.
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I'm sure Kenjaku will do something very evil, we still don't know why Sukuna himself the king of curses would make a binding vow with a sorcerer like Kenjaku, also the fact that Tengen has connections with both of them, and lied to the sorcerers that Gojo is sealed in the back of pr.Kenjaku most probably gonna try to control Sukuna and All of others teams up to fight him
That one finger missing most probably Kenjaku has that.
Im really interested to know what's going on between these 3.
EldemadeDityjon
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You see most probably 3 of them tried some experiments and failed. Kenjaku mocks Tengen as he was almost become like how Prime Sukuna was. I think it will be revealed in future chapters. Most probably all of them failed and Sukuna made a binding vow with Kenjaku to complete that and Tengen possibly went on his own route. I think Sukuna was near perfect being may be that's why Kenjaku mocked Tengen evolution.
Also if we checked Tengen and Kenjaku swaps body (different method but still same idea). It may be something to do with Immortality or something. Or something else.
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There is still too much to explain, Sukuna even implied that his open technique might be related to the nature of curses, which might be the reason he looked like a mix between cursed spirit and sorcerer, probably similar to transcendence in bleach, each soul reaper hits a wall of evolution, but fusing with hollows would break that wall and unlock new heights of strength and maybe thats what Sukuna did
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Resistance to shadow manipulation/ darkness manipulation? Absorption also may workReggie can resist being pulled to Megumi's shadow by reinforcing his cursed energy to his footing. Should every sorcerer received the same resistance since they should be able to do the same thing?
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Wouldn't that be a lifting strength feat thing due to the context?Reggie can resist being pulled to Megumi's shadow by reinforcing his cursed energy to his footing. Should every sorcerer received the same resistance since they should be able to do the same thing?
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No. This is a use of ce that is basically never shown prior nor shown again iirc.Reggie can resist being pulled to Megumi's shadow by reinforcing his cursed energy to his footing. Should every sorcerer received the same resistance since they should be able to do the same thing?
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I think this is pretty applicable to most trained sorcerers given that it seems like a naturally occurring resistance for cursed energy reinforcement.
kinda like how sorcerers can resist cursed speech by manipulating cursed energy through their brain and ears, only this seems much more basic in terms of application.
kinda like how sorcerers can resist cursed speech by manipulating cursed energy through their brain and ears, only this seems much more basic in terms of application.
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Sukuna enhances his domain output by changing the conditions and thus he destroys Gojo's barrier once again, but immediately after that his shrine collapses, Gojo says before his domain's barrier gets destroyed he had the lead inside for 3 minutes, dealing Sukuna enough damage where he cant maintain MS, Gojo remembers talking to Megumi about Mahoraga and how you need to destroy it in one blow but hes thinking why Sukuna isnt using it, right after that the wheel turns and Gojo feels dizzy
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Does this confirm Gojo > Sukuna?
Gojo absolutely wasn't lying when he said it will be tough for him but he's still gonna win but let's see how the fight plays out in the next chapters
Well at bare minimum let's confirm Gojo's superiority in hand to hand combat, and Sukuna's superiority in domains (3-0 for domain clashes)
Gojo absolutely wasn't lying when he said it will be tough for him but he's still gonna win but let's see how the fight plays out in the next chapters
Well at bare minimum let's confirm Gojo's superiority in hand to hand combat, and Sukuna's superiority in domains (3-0 for domain clashes)
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Well I honestly don't think you can consider that as Gojo’s win in a domain clash, but even if you did I don't mind.
I have a question btw, where did the fans get this "Sukuna’s real CT" from? Cleave and dismantle are his ct, which is why his DE applies them as sure hits and we know DE is realizing your innate domain in real life, nobody has more than one innate domain. Furthermore, Yoruzo (a Heian era sorcerer) referred to Sukuna’s CT as the "shrine" and said that it related to slashes, Gojo also referred to Cleave and Dismantle CT as the "shrine" in this chapter, also Angel is watching the fight and hasn't even implied anything towards Sukuna having a different CT, saying that the Heian era sorcerers and even Gojo are mistaken by that is the biggest bs and headcanon I have ever seen in JJK after the Nobara coming to kill Sukuna with her soul damage attack
It all came from Sukuna's dialogue with Jogo when he used his flames, then he said he wouldn't cheat by revealing his CT, but even this doesn't confirm anything, It's just Sukuna saying that wouldn't cheat by using cleave again
EldemadeDityjon
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idk real CT or not but Definitely I believe fire arrow > Domain and there may be he also has one more Technique which has something to do with Trident like staff in the posters.
Also I believe Sukuna CT > Megumi CT but it's just Sukuna has enough CE to use it efficiently. Just so Sukuna using Megumi CT and winning wouldn't make him weaker. That's if Gege makes Sukuna win that's it. I believe until now Gege shown us both of them are relative.
Also I think if Gojo loses Kashimo jumps him next and uses some big Technique which he store up using binding vow to fight Sukuna. It will be good on its own.
Also I believe Sukuna CT > Megumi CT but it's just Sukuna has enough CE to use it efficiently. Just so Sukuna using Megumi CT and winning wouldn't make him weaker. That's if Gege makes Sukuna win that's it. I believe until now Gege shown us both of them are relative.
Also I think if Gojo loses Kashimo jumps him next and uses some big Technique which he store up using binding vow to fight Sukuna. It will be good on its own.
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Hmmm maybe?
I was thinking that it was more alike to resistance to absorbtion. Reggie was standing above a non-corporeal shadow which swallow anything it touches, it doesn't make sense if he just resisted it by just LS.
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Because this is the only times where Megumi used his incomplete domain at a sorcerer
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Might be possible, but the fire arrows probably won't pass through the limitless which is why he was using domain amp before and now he's using the wheel, and yeah I agree Sukuna is the strongest TS user in history
EldemadeDityjon
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Honestly I hope gege gives Kashimo one hell of an buff in future. I don't want to see his binding vow getting wasted.
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I think Kashimo will destroy Mahoraga, his CT can be used only one time so Mahoraga doesn't have the chance to adapt
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Irrelevant
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Then how can we apply such a limited use of ce to all sorcerers? Also what resistance are you even arguing for this?
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I don't think we should mark down as resistance, for what Reggie is doing. I actually think putting that as freedom of movement works better because all he's doing is creating solid a foothold for himself to keep from being pulled in by the natural flowing of shadows towards Megumi. It's like Reggie is in a whirlpool but is managing to not slip further down into it.
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Yeah but I do remember someone proposing this before and we shot it down due to it being a very limited use of ce and also that in the past like with Jogo he didn't use this on the lake they fought on
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maybe only for the advanced sorcerer then?
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Not all free movement is create equal, this is just one which allows people to walk without being impeded in stuff like water, instead of being water walking. Free movement covers this as well
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Wasn't the context of the feat that Reggie was weighing down Fushiguro by summoning cars on him which caused a heavy burden on his body and started to weigh everything else down within the shadow? I interpreted it as Reggie either weighing himself down to the floor or strengthening his grip on the floor so he would stay in place and not get sucked in.
I figured that since CE has been used to reinforce physicals, that he concentrated CE to his feet to stay in place and not get sucked in by the 2.4 tons weighing down Fushiguro and his shadow. So I figured it was a LS feat for Reggie via CE. Rather than some resistance to shadow manipulation.
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I don't think it'd really be free movement tbh. I think of the feat like this analogy
You have a giant rug covering the floor of the room. In the center of the room, beneath the rug, there is a hole. If someone places a weight on the middle of the rug, it starts to sink, pulling everything on the rug (that's not over the center) towards the center. Reggie essentially "weighed" himself down on his spot so the "rug" wouldn't sweep him off his feat and pull him towards the middle where he'd be crushed similarly to Fushiguro.
You have a giant rug covering the floor of the room. In the center of the room, beneath the rug, there is a hole. If someone places a weight on the middle of the rug, it starts to sink, pulling everything on the rug (that's not over the center) towards the center. Reggie essentially "weighed" himself down on his spot so the "rug" wouldn't sweep him off his feat and pull him towards the middle where he'd be crushed similarly to Fushiguro.
