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Planck when you get the chance input would be appreciated.That actually looks like an interesting read.
So apparently a thousand world's isn't the right translation.
Instead, it says a chiliocosm which raw translated means a thousand world-systems, not a thousand world's as we translate it in English.
Is this usable or does it violate the rules?
Either way, a World/The World in the unabridged translation means Universe.
If that's the case and if it was, If we include the statement where duality is boundlessly above it, would it be enough for tier 1?If you can post the scans for the universe being a world in this context then 2-B is possible.
Sun Wukong is born from Chaos which was the formless combination of Heaven And Earth.If you can post the scans for the universe being a world in this context then 2-B is possible.
OK. Though could you post the full context of the chiliocosm feat and how it scales to the Buddha. I have no doubt that it somehow does but its best to have the actual proof for a profile (And I'd suggest contacting an experienced member to help put with formatting as the blog needs serious work in that regard).
It's mentioned in the whole Dharma, Duality thing. It would scale to the Buddha either through them holding the Universe in their palm (Including every grain of sand.), or Dharma Subjective Reality, where even the chiliocosm exists because it's of the Dharma.
Seven Hundred Sextillion Universes and that's under the assumption the amount of sand in JTTW is the same as on earth.That's a lot of worlds.
Yeah, but the earth in JTTW is much bigger than it's IRL counterpart.Seven Hundred Sextillion Universes and that's under the assumption the amount of sand in JTTW is the same as on earth.
So apparently a thousand world's isn't the right translation.
Instead, it says a chiliocosm which raw translated means a thousand world-systems, not a thousand world's as we translate it in English.
Is this usable or does it violate the rules?
Either way, a World/The World in the unabridged translation means Universe.
Yes, the story is a mixture between Daoist and Buddhist cosmologies, and the Earth and Heavens both are made by Yin and Yang, and their separation.Also this.
It states the phenomena controlled by the dualities of the Yin-Yang are boundless in substance and function. Would include the Universe since it was formed using the Yin and Yang?
It's mentioned in the whole Dharma, Duality thing. It would scale to the Buddha either through them holding the Universe in their palm (Including every grain of sand.), or Dharma Subjective Reality, where even the chiliocosm exists because it's of the Dharma.
It's much much bigger. Mount Sumeru, the Axis Mundai of the World is large enough to have both the Sun and Moon orbit it.Yeah, but the earth in JTTW is much bigger than it's IRL counterpart.
You might also need to add the many things that makes Buddhahood wukong almost impossible to kill in his durability section.Too many Universes oof. But ey Sun Wukong Tier 2-B neat.
I'll have to ask someone to reorganize the blog tommorow though. Cause it is messy as all hell.
It's not a 2-B statement, it's a 2-A statement, the Trichiliocosm is infinite.Too many Universes oof. But ey Sun Wukong Tier 2-B neat.
I'll have to ask someone to reorganize the blog tommorow though. Cause it is messy as all hell.
I mean he's already pretty unkillable. He has Transduality Type 2, NEP Type 2 and 3, AE Type 1, Immortality Type 9, and Invulnerability (Being beyond destruction and annihilation.)You might also need to add the many things that makes Buddhahood wukong almost impossible to kill in his durability section.
Yep.I mean he's already pretty unkillable. He has Transduality Type 2, NEP Type 2 and 3, AE Type 1, Immortality Type 9, and Invulnerability (Being beyond destruction and annihilation.)
Also, his level of Omniscience is ridiculous. The Great Way encompasses the Universe, which is further encompassed by the Dharma, which is further apart of the Dharmakaya
Could this be used? Or do you think this is a bit too vague?Yep.
Also true. Even Rimuru wouldn't hope to match it.
YesCould this be used? Or do you think this is a bit too vague?
This is a part of the Dharma so it should be true.
Monks on the road to Nirvana have all Casual Relations (Cause and Effect) Removed.
All Reality and all things are just emptiness.
Existing in the Realm of No Birth. (Nirvana I'm pretty sure.)
Free from all attachments to the Three Realms, which would be everything in the Universe.
This could further be supported with this I think.
A Buddha acknowledges the unreality of things. Which if I did my research correctly is the Dharma Realms (Everything in the Universe). Basically reinforcing what that first one said.
So that would Acausality Type 5 confirmed.
Yes, especially when they also transcended the boundless duality.So that would Acausality Type 5 confirmed.
And with this statement that Monks on the road to Buddhism will transcend the world/Universe. And those other two.
Potential transcendence over a Low 2-C Space-Time?
This is referring to Anatta again.Could this be used? Or do you think this is a bit too vague?
They probably are referring to the pure-lands then. The Three Realms include the formless ones.This is referring to Anatta again.
When it says "Monk", it refers to the Sangha, Buddhist Monastic order.
So, to make it more plain, it's saying:
"For a Buddhist monk, all desire has been extinguished; for he understands the truth, that all things are Anatta (Empty, Unreality)."
The Realm of No Birth could be two things.
It could be referring to the Non-Returners, people who have cultivated so much Merit and achieved the Formless Jhanas that they reach a part of Samsara where they will not fall from, people who have reached those realms won't reincarnate into a lower world like the Petra loka or the Animal loka nor the Nakaras.
Or alternatively, it's again referring to the Pure-Lands, saying they've gone beyond arising entirely, and achieved the delights of the Pure-lands.
You meant 4D structure to be exact. But we need @Planck69 's confirmationThey probably are referring to the pure-lands then. The Three Realms include the formless ones.
Even so, we can scale a Buddha off of this.
It would just be verbal since there's no in novel proof of them being infinitely beyond such monks.
But it should be Low 1-C since they transcend a Low 2-C Multiversal Structure.
!?Well, not entirely.
Even in the book, Nirvana is described as being totally transcendent, formless, and utterly beyond, right?
But, in each grain of sand, there is a Pure-land.
And that would repeat ad-infinitum.
Again, as it's describing something from another sutra which does the exact same thing.
I don't believe this is a 2-A cosmology, but rather a 1-B Cosmology.
Yeah, going by what it describes, it keep describing an Infinite recursion of Pure-Lands.
Damn.Yeah, going by what it describes, it keep describing an Infinite recursion of Pure-Lands.
Due to major issues with the profile but now it seems that this is as close as it gets.Wasn't Sun Wukong's profile removed from this wiki?
How exactly does that work I'm not seeing a recursion loop.Yeah, going by what it describes, it keep describing an Infinite recursion of Pure-Lands.
Each Sand particle contains a Pure-Land, a Pure-land is one of the Nirvana lands.How exactly does that work I'm not seeing a recursion loop.
Ah, I see. And each Pure-Land contains worlds/Universes as there is sand in the gange river. Infinite Recursion with potentially millions of Universes on each level. Not going to fight over the whole gange river meaning infinite thing.Each Sand particle contains a Pure-Land, a Pure-land is one of the Nirvana lands.
Each Pure-Land itself contains more grains of sand, each then contains more Pure-Lands in infinite recursion.
Went a bit crazy, got from 2-B to potentially 1-B, need your input on it.OK. Though could you post the full context of the chiliocosm feat and how it scales to the Buddha. I have no doubt that it somehow does but its best to have the actual proof for a profile (And I'd suggest contacting an experienced member to help put with formatting as the blog needs serious work in that regard).
How exactly does that work I'm not seeing a recursion loop.
Shouldn't it be each particle having a pure land instead of specifically a grain of sand?Ah, I see. And each Pure-Land contains worlds/Universes as there is sand in the gange river. Infinite Recursion with potentially millions of Universes on each level. Not going to fight over the whole gange river meaning infinite thing.
That is a potentially 1-B Cosmology.
The only reason it wouldn't be is if they want to be cynical. "You can't prove each Pure-Land has a grain of sand in it..."
Ya. So the loop isShouldn't it be each particle having a pure land instead of specifically a grain of sand?
No, it's from the book. We did not bring up any outside sources or Buddhist sutras to fuel the fire. We really didn't. Check the previous comments for clarification.How much of this is actually in the book and how much of it is supplementary material from outside it is what I have to ask. I can see drawing clarification for certain terms here and there but when it makes the source material change tiers massively is where I draw the line.
I can't speak for others but if the choice is using non-source material to massively upgrade a verse (no matter how much insistence is put on them being tied together) and not having it on the wiki, I'd rather it not be here.
I'll go over it real quick.How much of this is actually in the book and how much of it is supplementary material from outside it is what I have to ask. I can see drawing clarification for certain terms here and there but when it makes the source material change tiers massively is where I draw the line.
I can't speak for others but if the choice is using non-source material to massively upgrade a verse (no matter how much insistence is put on them being tied together) and not having it on the wiki, I'd rather it not be here.
I'm mostly bringing up definitions of what things are, like the Thousand-fold Universe, or the Trikaya Dharmakaya.How much of this is actually in the book and how much of it is supplementary material from outside it is what I have to ask. I can see drawing clarification for certain terms here and there but when it makes the source material change tiers massively is where I draw the line.
I can't speak for others but if the choice is using non-source material to massively upgrade a verse (no matter how much insistence is put on them being tied together) and not having it on the wiki, I'd rather it not be here.