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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Discussion Thread IV: Diamond is Unbreakable

Alr so heres what Im wondering, if Dio p1 and Jon are considered to be physically close to part 3 dio, why isn’t their speed close to his?
 
Chariot190 said:
His body isn't weaker or slower, and if it is, it's not by much.
The main issue Dio presented was that his immortality, the regen, was compromised, notably on his left side. The actual physicality is unknown, especially as he spent all his time eating chicks and shit, which increases his capabilities. Honestly it's hard to say, we just know that if there is a difference, it wouldn't be huge.

And yeah, you right, but it's kinda weird, DIO has way better scaling than Dio, to an impossible degree, I mean, Dio is way the **** below Joseph, but DIO is actually in the same general ballpark, unless we assume Joseph's speed dropped like 1000x for some reason. Among other things, it actually gets into a weird paradoxical scaling, DIO and Dio's feats and scaling contradict each other, it's pretty weird, like maybe he got faster by spending like two years eating chicks or Stando Power did something? Though the actual answer is probably don't think about it, DIO is just top tier now because Hirohiko felt like it.

Though I wouldn't have any issue listing Dio (End of Part 1) and Jonathan (Post) as possibly FTL, MFTL, or whatever, given it doesn't make sense that Dio and DIO are vastly different and it isn't like there's any real anti-feats and scaling saying they can't be, Pre Jonathan, Will, Dire, etc, the whole of Part 1 doesn't scale to Dio and Jonathan at the end in speed. In fact Jonathan and Dio are pretty obviously way above them in speed, hell even Tarkus could blitz Will and Will is where most of the other dudes scale.
Plus in the raw Dio's eye beams were actually compared to a laser, but obviously we don't use that because it's very explicitly not a laser, but fluid fired at extreme pressure, plus it wasn't explicitly in regards to speed, but I mean, pretty odd that comparison got made to begin with.

I mean, I'm fine with a possibly/likely as there's nothing contradicting it and Dio's speed being at least in the same ballpark makes sense, but I also see the implicating issues with that so whatever I guess.
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Yeah, it's uh, well, they assumed he shattered the whole cliff face, instead of like, cutting it?

Which doesn't work no matter how you do it, in the manga it was a cut, nothing more, 8-C.

In the anime he did frag some stuff, BUT, the size scaling is different in the anime and far smaller, so while he did frag it there, he the dimensions would be smaller, ergo, still not gonna work, aka, not 8-B, ironically, would probably even out to 8-C, maybe a tad higher.

From what I can tell they took the Manga height and width of the cut, took the anime's depth, and went like "yeah he violently fragged it".
 
Tanjiro vs Jonathan death battle eh...
Jonathan is only baseline Large Building level
Tanjiro is actually Multi City block level
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yikes. I mean, Jonathan might be possibly ftl via scaling to DIo, but the massive Ap difference just makes Tanjiro shit on him to oblivion. 😔
 
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No I'm quite ready, mostly because I looked into Justice and turns out it's just a shitty feat that isn't above anything Plat scales too atm.
Stand stats is never gonna fly unless explicitly explained in depth or hyper specific examples, and we already use those instances.
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Tanjiro vs Jonathan death battle eh...

yikes. I mean, Jonathan might be possibly ftl via scaling to DIo, but the massive Ap difference just makes Tanjiro shit on him to oblivion. 😔
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Depends. if The difference isnt like, 10x, then a fast enough char could prob hit the opponent to death
 
If you're finding invincible mach 69 ants, that isn't a ant.
 
I just realized something cool about Meruem vs Kars as a mu, Kars would awaken Nen mid fight in almost all cases
 
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Chariot190 said:
No I'm quite ready, mostly because I looked into Justice and turns out it's just a shitty feat that isn't above anything Plat scales too atm.
Stand stats is never gonna fly unless explicitly explained in depth or hyper specific examples, and we already use those instances.
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yeah I'm saving my super secret stand stats argument for for youtube comment sections and discord servers
 
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