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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Discussion Thread IV: Diamond is Unbreakable

I want Araki to clarify the relationship between Spin, Calamity and Gravity.

Like Spin at its lowest levels still obeys the rules of reality[Calamity], So what's a high level Spin? This is what happens when a rule becomes equal or greater than Calamity? And where does gravity fit in relation to these two?
Spin is an application of the laws of physics. Kinetic/rotational energy and such.
 
I know my question was in the sense of relationships between concepts like Spin is conceptually superior/equal to Calamity? And if so, why did the Calamity let Spin evolve so much when it has control of its initial forms? And is Gravity subject to Calamity/Spin?
Calamity isn't sentient, it's a law of the universe. WOU is a personification of it, but isn't an omniscient being.
 
I'm not.
Imagine just ignoring the like, idk, 5 times, an alternate universe Stand is stated to be identical to its counterpart (Unironically, see Killer Queen, Tusk, and Cream Starter).
Hell even in Part 7 they explicitly show alternate universe Stands having identical stats and even tying in speed.

Not to mention the fact Alt "Diego" isn't considered an alternate universe Diego, but rather DIO according to JoJoveller, mentioning him in the Part 3 section of the book, specifically that of DIO (Normal Diego isn't mentioned at all).

Pretending The World isn't actually The World is cope. it's The World, it's meant to be The World, there's literally no difference between them, saying they're secretly different is unhinged.
Do you have the scans for the times they’re called identical? Kinda need them for a project I’m working on rn.
 
Did Jodio get November Rain Mechanism Requiem: Bites the Dust Act 4 yet?
No, that's already outdated, he currently has November Rain Love Train Go Beyond Over Heaven Ultimate Being Calamity Mechanism Requiem: Bites the Dust Act: Endless 9.
 
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Yeah because Stone Free's funny string, Joseph's dogshit vines, Jotaro's literally punching you in the dick until chapter 151, and Johnny's finger gun are much better.
Only Soft & Wet, CD and GE actually started with hax, and CD and S&W were mostly utility. Only GE, out of each MC Stand, began with actual useful combat abilities.

Acting like NR, with it's 10m AOE (bigger than any MC Stand except Johnny's Tusk, and even then it'd tied with Act 1), with danmaku, insane precision, gravity based (which leads to lots of possibilities and not so subtle spin implications), AND the fact his droplets can hit Class M weigh (the small pod he made against Rohan was thousands of tons of effective weight, meaning nobody but Star Platinum can even get to him without getting faceplanted), is somehow less MC worthy than string, punch or shoot one projectile 🗿

He also has a funny rock that may as well be a pocket WoU-lite.
And all within 9ch.

He has objectively way more going for him than over half the protags, at this point, and has more going for him than a few even by the time they ended. Complaining he doesn't have wacky 4D hax bullshit when he's only fought like once is ****** up. Will he get more hax? Yeah of course. Will it be soon? Lmao nah, probably won't for like 5 years at least, and that's both perfectly fine and acceptable, JoJo isn't about power escalation in the sense each new thing must be above the last.
 
Eh part 3 had an excuse which was most the stands in that part weren’t that haxy a lot of them can be beat by stats like star plat did

That funny rock can it even be used in combat
 
Eh part 3 had an excuse which was most the stands in that part weren’t that haxy a lot of them can be beat by stats like star plat did
Part 3 has some of the best Stands bar none. HG, possession, danmaku, body control, can unravel like string, can create tendrils and webs, dumb as shit range that may as well be infinite.
Justice, multi-km aoe, necromancy, illusions, body puppetry and wound neg and logia.
Whatever the **** Cream is on.

It has basic ones, it also has some insane ones, yet Plat is explicitly said multiple times to be the most basic Stand. Br is intentionally bland as all hell, and he's THE MC of JoJo, Joseph is just bad and only utility.
Early Jolyne and Johnny straight up lose to Jodio atm, etc.

As it stands, most parts start off with less than Jodio, and some don't even surpass him like Stone Free.
That funny rock can it even be used in combat
What? Usagi used it to make the cats trip and incapacitate themselves with their own attack? It's how they won 🗿
It's situational, but so is everything in Jojo, when it works, that thing works.
 
Part 3 has some of the best Stands bar none. HG, possession, danmaku, body control, can unravel like string, can create tendrils and webs, dumb as shit range that may as well be infinite.
Justice, multi-km aoe, necromancy, illusions, body puppetry and wound neg and logia.
Whatever the **** Cream is on.

It has basic ones, it also has some insane ones, yet Plat is explicitly said multiple times to be the most basic Stand. Br is intentionally bland as all hell, and he's THE MC of JoJo, Joseph is just bad and only utility.
Early Jolyne and Johnny straight up lose to Jodio atm, etc.

As it stands, most parts start off with less than Jodio, and some don't even surpass him like Stone Free.

What? Usagi used it to make the cats trip and incapacitate themselves with their own attack? It's how they won 🗿
It's situational, but so is everything in Jojo, when it works, that thing works.
How powerful do you think November Rain will end up, just as a guess. Compared to other main JoJo stands
 
But, it has like the most unique and cool Stand design of any MC 🗿
It's a giant ******* spider generator thing with a jacked chest and menacing head

How powerful do you think November Rain will end up, just as a guess. Compared to other main JoJo stands
idk probably 8-C AP with some stupid hax that's like 4D or uni in potency
 
But, it has like the most unique and cool Stand design of any MC 🗿
It's a giant ******* spider generator thing with a jacked chest and menacing head
The problem is that the general public are idiots and are already put off by something that isn't humanoid[Even though there are several stands that are not humanoid and they like it, it just doesn't make sense] and I've seen a lot of people saying that it's ugly and that it came from a horror game[It's not even scary].
 
Now that I noticed, will NR instead of spin use calamity? The reason is silly but its power is practically identical to the way WoU used the rain and the explanation of Mechanisms is similar to Calamity.
 
WoU is def a mechanism. It obviously won't be calamity, calamity is just one aspect of flow, we already know the funny rock has a mechanism but for money.

I'd bet spin getting involved tho, it uses water droplets (spheres) and uses gravity (spin) but no reason both can't be involved in some way, especially if more mechanisms get introduced, bro would want spin to overcome them.
 
My Design Rank for the protagonists' Stands:
¹ Soft & Wet
² Tusk Act 2
³ Crazy Diamond
⁴ November Rain
⁵ Star Platinum
⁶ Tusk Act 4
⁷ Golden Experience
⁸ Golden Experience Requiem
⁹ Stone Free
¹⁰ Tusk Act 3
¹¹ Hermit Purple
¹² Tusk Act 1
 
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