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JoJo Stand User Bracket Round 2 Match 2 (Kakyoin vs Polnareff) (6-6-0)

Baken384 said:
Dude Anubis literally contended with Chariot, how could you not understand that? Anubis Khan was literally pressuring Chariot, if Chariot was simply faster why couldn't he literally shit on Anubis Khan before he would even overpower him? He can't because he cant outspeeds him.

Anubis is literally suggested to be MFTL the moment it was putting pressure onto Polnareff and Chariot couldn't do shit, if it was simply faster he could have destroyed Anubis before he overpowered him. That is MFTL scaling because Anubis was contending with Chariot who is MFTL.

The shooting of the sword is MFTL because Anubis Chaka has shown to be comparable to Chariot who is MFTL as shown when it was literally contending with Chariot's slashes, I do not give a **** if Anubis was also overpowering Chariot, he was blatantly also contending with those slashes and couldn't literally block the shooting of the sword.

Dude, it does not change the fact that Polnareff, who was deadass RIGHT BESIDE JOTARO told him to get the **** away implying that he thought Star Platinum, who is straight on faster than Chariot, couldn't catch that blade. If Chariot here was faster, why the **** couldn't he intercept it?
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1. Khan is mftl, but the sword shot doesn't scale to him in the first place cause he blocked it easily
2. The only reason pol couldn't do shit is because he was hiding behind a wall, unless you're referring to khan anubis who was indeed mftl, but as explained that's not something that matters
3. Chaka is not comparable to chariot speed , he just hid behind a wall a threw his sword around for the whole fight, except for the beginning where polnareff dodges all his attacks to the point of him not being able to even scale to polnareff
4. He couldn't block the sword, ok? What exactly does that prove for you.
5. Khanubis scaling still doesn't matter
Baken384 said:
Dude a hundred relativistic bullets are easy talk when Chariot did a casual FTL+ feat.
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This is wrong to begin with since even if you were shot with a bunch of bullets moving way slower than you, having to deal with every single one compensates for the speed gap. Anyways he's basically gonna be shooting pol from more than one place anyways, as shown against dio
Baken384 said:
Khan did not just block a single attack? He was straight on taking on Chariot's slashes, contending with Chariot's slashes and was slowly overpowering him. Anubis literally has the power to become faster and stronger, why are we not assuming he is not becoming faster and stronger here? Because he just stated he is just getting stronger? What the hell? Anubis Khan did somethin that Anubis Chaka (as i stated was on par with Chariot) and was blocking the shooting of the sword tactic because not only he had MEMORIZED IT (Kakyoin does not know this technique) he had reacted and blocked it accordingly (SPEED FEAT)

That is literally basic ass rudimentary scaling between the characters, Anubis is FTL for the sheer fact it was contending with a Polnareff who wasn't going easy anymore because he was shocked at his performance to the point that Anubis started to contend with Silver Chariot. If Anubis was not FTL, he could have just straight on landed a thousand stabs onto Anubis' face but instead Anubis had enough speed to block slashes from Chariot and apply pressure onto him.

And? What is stopping Chariot from literally deflecting the emerald splashes back, does the emerald splashes suddenly disappear for whatever reason? That's weird.

I literally stated why the sword shoot is part of the FTL squad. No one needs to calc the speed when Anubis Chaka (Who was contending with Chariot) got hit by this attack.
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khan scaling doesn't matter
also the only time he got hit by the attack was when he wasn't looking, surprise
all we have is it failing to hit a mftl charater, and it not failing to hit a peak human+ or superhuman speed kinda of character. That's it, chaka just isn't scaling to even light speed
 
just remember the bare facts of the situation
he contended with chariot...by hiding behind a wall the whole time
he blocked attacks from chariot....after getting way faster and having a completely new user
the sword shot caught anubis......but only before he got fast enough to have a mftl feat, and before he even knew he had that technique
chaka anubis scaling chain sucks and anubis sucks and he's slow as hell, that's the truth
 
ZillertheBucko said:
This is wrong to begin with since even if you were shot with a bunch of bullets moving way slower than you, having to deal with every single one compensates for the speed gap. Anyways he's basically gonna be shooting pol from more than one place anyways, as shown against dio
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implying he can set that shit up in the first place.
ZillertheBucko said:
1. Khan is mftl, but the sword shot doesn't scale to him in the first place cause he blocked it easily
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MFTL but lower than Anubis Khan's MFTL
ZillertheBucko said:
2. The only reason pol couldn't do shit is because he was hiding behind a wall, unless you're referring to khan anubis who was indeed mftl, but as explained that's not something that matters
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It it is still a blatant feat of Chaka literally swapping hands with Chariot here.
ZillertheBucko said:
3. Chaka is not comparable to chariot speed , he just hid behind a wall a threw his sword around for the whole fight, except for the beginning where polnareff dodges all his attacks to the point of him not being able to even scale to polnareff
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Yes he has shown to be comparable when they literally clashed earlier with that wall.
ZillertheBucko said:
just remember the bare facts of the situation
he contended with chariot...by hiding behind a wall the whole time
he blocked attacks from chariot....after getting way faster and having a completely new user
the sword shot caught anubis......but only before he got fast enough to have a mftl feat, and before he even knew he had that technique
chaka anubis scaling chain sucks and anubis sucks and he's slow as hell, that's the truth
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i dont care anymore, we placed our arguments down, there will never be an agreement or disagreement here, just let the others choose whatever argument they want to go with, i dont give a **** anymore.
 
Baken384 said:
It it is still a blatant feat of Chaka literally swapping hands with Chariot here.

Yes he has shown to be comparable when they literally clashed earlier with that wall.
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How does this prove he was swinging at mftl speeds? Did chariot ever struggle to block any of his attacks ever? This is just a case of chariot blocking a bunch of attacks from a peak human speed character dude, this is literally just factual there’s absolutely 0 way that Chaka Anubis is scaling to chariot, there’s no way to justify that he even is massively downscaling he just gets blocked by chariot easily every. Single. Time. The “Anubis should be comparable to himself” doesn’t even apply here since it’s blatantly shown a bunch that his abilities vary from user to user.
This isn’t just a case of people choosing the argument they want, there is literally just absolutely nothing that can suggests well enough that Chaka Anubis can possibly scale at all to chariot. We know that he is stated to have gotten faster as khan, we know that he is slower than Polnareff who could dodge him easily, and we know that every time he clashed with chariot he was blocked, every single time
There is nothing there
 
ok anyways to catch everybody up to speed with the arguments for kakyoin
anubis at its strongest is mftl, but there's evidence that chaka anubis is not even beyond peak human, which is important because we're establishing that kakyoin would be able to react to the polnareff sword shot thing
also kakyoin is definitely mftl to begin with but whatever
point is, if kak can stop him from getting close, and if the sword shot doesn't work then
that's proof of him being able beat chariot here. obviously the counterargument is arguing that anubis is mftl as chaka but there's no scaling to prove that obv, or I wouldn't be saying he isn't
 
I hope to **** you're joking, Anubis is FTL to MFTL in literally every single ******* instance, his speed is flat out mentioned to be insane and a huge issue in every encounter.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
actually we should just skip the match and assume jotaro beats the winner for the sake of the tournament
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Idk I feel like End of Part 3 Kak and Pol are different enough, End of Part 3 Kak has 20 meter emerald splash and Anubis Pol didn't even know he could shed his armor iirc
 
I'm just gonna vote Kakyoin so we can move on, probably not adding this to profiles since speed equal rules are janky now
 
Would this be a bad time to say I'm leaning towards Pol high-diff.
 
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