Honestly this won't be an issue, we've already seen what happens to Johnny when hit by his own fingers, he won't die. Giorno cannot survive from it. So given Johnny lands just one I'm seeing him win.
Why not?
because he doesn't resist spatial manip does he? The holes literally destroy things trying to go in them. Johnny is casually able to resist it, I posted above.
Giorno's
The "damage" it's doing is spatial manipulation, they get sucked in the hole and have their body torn a apart. Johnny literally shot himself with this ability and uses it casually, the "damage" will not do anything to him is my whole point. There's the also the fact that Johnny has to shoot an animal with it for this to actually work, Considering how johnny fights, he won't just shoot a random animal.
well it's about if Giorno uses life giving or not but mostly, fair point
The thing is though, Johnny only has one way of winning this match, which is to shoot Giorno directly in the head. Anywhere else on Gio won't do
Yes it won't do any damage to him, but it will stagger him or at the very least put him off his rhythm. This window will give Giorno the opportunity to get up close and personal, and if Giorno does get close, it ain't looking too good for Johnny.
It's not a matter of whether Johnny wants to or not, Gio will make an animal to intercept the bullet's trajectory after Johnny's already shot it. Plus, enemies such as Polpo and Ghiaccio didn't even realise Giorno used transmutation before it was too late, and Johnny likely won't either.
I disagree, against Sandman, the hole can target ones heart so I think the heart is another option. Also he can shoot multiple of the holes, its not going to be just one. Similar with Axl or Sandman, He can shoot different ones which Giorno won't be able to handle all the directions that Johnny can appear at. I will agree that Giorno getting in cqc will basically give him the win if Johnny exhaust all his fingers or he'll just escape through holes.
Honestly this isn't happening. All the animals Giorno use don't reflect attacks iirc, he also from what I know only did it two times, and that was against a random guy (with the frog) and some sniper. I highly doubt Giorno would go with that not knowing how Johnny's ability works and would rather dodge. I mean he honestly doesn't use this ability normally other than the two times brought up.
well the tree also reflected koichi's attack
they are both mftl. He’ll throw it much faster than that. And considering it’s ge he shouldn’t be too far above Johnny to blitz from a distance.
johnny speed is being downgraded tho, so frog throwing is still a genuine threat to him
Downgraded to? if it's below mftl this should become equal speed or else giorno obvious blitzes.
hmmm, not sure really
MHS+ maybe
Yeah but if the downgraded is aplied.
Mhs+ Johnny means Ge can literally just wave it’s arms around casually on accident and should still manage to hit Johnny multiple times at close range. It has enough time to make a intricate sand castle before the nail leaves johnnies finger
true but the main point of debate right now is that holes would just allow him to ignore giorno's defenses
