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But Timmy's very elusive in combat, he should be able to escape from Johnny's grasp.imobilization my dude, there's more wincons them killing
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But Timmy's very elusive in combat, he should be able to escape from Johnny's grasp.imobilization my dude, there's more wincons them killing
jhonny has little toon force feats, timmy has so many that I would say that they are in bugs bunny levelThat doesn't mean anything. The only reason why he has a separate page for Toon Force is because the person who made the page gave long ass explanations for almost every ability he had via Toon Force.
if jhonny mange to do It's still a winconBut Timmy's very elusive in combat, he should be able to escape from Johnny's grasp.
No. A good portion of those abilities are in long ass paragraphs, hence why it seems like so much. And no. Timmy is nowhere near Bugs Bunny levels of Toon Force, let alone Looney Tunes Toon Force in general.jhonny has little toon force feats, timmy has so many that I would say that they are in bugs bunny level
dude, look in his feats(toon force)No. A good portion of those abilities are in long ass paragraphs, hence why it seems like so much. And no. Timmy is nowhere near Bugs Bunny levels of Toon Force, let alone Looney Tunes Toon Force in general.
Also, most of Johnny's base abilities do come from his use of Toon Force (I.E. Elasticity, Teleportation, Immersion, Body Control, and much more).jhonny has little toon force feats, timmy has so many that I would say that they are in bugs bunny level
worst for jhonny.Also, most of Johnny's base abilities do come from his use of Toon Force (I.E. Elasticity, Teleportation, Immersion, Body Control, and much more).
Well, if regen at that level could be used over and over again per fight then that would be an issue, but as far as we know it's just a "this happened once in the episode in some episodes", so that limits it. Based on how much the 2 could harm each other before 1 falls, Timmy will stand up way more times than Johnny, but not infinitely. Johnny can win by putting him down without his regen coming up if he outskills long enough.But what's Johnny gonna do then? He can't bypass that regen.
If you actually look into it more, you'll realize that quite a few of his abilities that come from Toon Force have long explanations.dude, look in his feats(toon force)
Thanks for clarifying. They both have a lot of their abilities, so they're kind of neck and neck. This basically depends on who can outlast who longer.Timmy's toon force is pretty basic, just better organized.
I kinda disagree. Refer to my comment above.Based on how much the 2 could harm each other before 1 falls, Timmy will stand up way more times than Johnny, but not infinitely.
In terms of pure CQC/H2H? No. Timmy has not shown any form of Martial Arts. The only time he had Martial Arts was when his fairies gave him that ability.but for me seens like timmy still outskill jhonny
Does anyone have a counterargument for this?Thanks for clarifying. They both have a lot of their abilities, so they're kind of neck and neck. This basically depends on who can outlast who longer.
Johnny has Toon Force, Elasticity, and Immense Pain Tolerance, which will help a lot considering he has a 3.5x AP advantage over Timmy. Plus he can last days in a fight before getting tired.
Timmy has Mid-High (though it's a bit inconsistent, as stated by @Eficiente), Toon Force, and Elasticity, and his Stamina is definitely comparable to Johnny's, though it fluctuates a lot more.
This is actually a very even battle.
you know that you can vote? right?Bump
If I was to vote, I'd go Incon, as they're both have tons of trouble finishing each other off, and they both have win cons that's definitely likely to happen.
But that's just me.
I can't. I'm the OP, right? Or there was a new rule added that OP can vote, last time I checked, OP couldn't vote.you know that you can vote? right?
seens like It never was a rule to begin withI can't. I'm the OP, right? Or there was a new rule added that OP can vote, last time I checked, OP couldn't vote.
You can vote as long as you aren’t biasedI can't. I'm the OP, right? Or there was a new rule added that OP can vote, last time I checked, OP couldn't vote.
Not voting, but just gonna clarify it is a unspoken rule for OP not allowed to vote in their own threads.seens like It never was a rule to begin with
Not sure, but the unspoken rule isn’t exactly enforced anyway.So, I can't vote here?
I was going for Inconclusive here, and I already stated my reasons above.Not sure, but the unspoken rule isn’t exactly enforced anyway.
Personally, I think the OP can argue for the character they choose or think can win.
Probably no issues in this case, but just remember I have no interest into VS debating with some exceptions.I was going for Inconclusive here, and I already stated my reasons above.
Do you think any issues would sprout if I counted my vote for Incon?
Still no response to this?Thanks for clarifying. They both have a lot of their abilities, so they're kind of neck and neck. This basically depends on who can outlast who longer.
Johnny has Toon Force, Elasticity, and Immense Pain Tolerance, which will help a lot considering he has a 3.5x AP advantage over Timmy. Plus he can last days in a fight before getting tired.
Timmy has Mid-High (though it's a bit inconsistent, as stated by @Eficiente), Toon Force, and Elasticity, and his Stamina is definitely comparable to Johnny's, though it fluctuates a lot more.
This is actually a very even battle.
Ok, I will try to give one more argument for timmy, timmy prefere to not fight directly if he is unequiped or witout hel, like trowing objects and jumping around It's oponent, this means that jhonny would have a dificultier time hitting timmy sinse he would be jumping around trowing mail boxes, shovels, lemonade stands, etc.Thanks for clarifying. They both have a lot of their abilities, so they're kind of neck and neck. This basically depends on who can outlast who longer.
Johnny has Toon Force, Elasticity, and Immense Pain Tolerance, which will help a lot considering he has a 3.5x AP advantage over Timmy. Plus he can last days in a fight before getting tired.
Timmy has Mid-High (though it's a bit inconsistent, as stated by @Eficiente), Toon Force, and Elasticity, and his Stamina is definitely comparable to Johnny's, though it fluctuates a lot more.
This is actually a very even battle.
Johnny is very mobile himself, so throwing objects won't do nothing here. Johnny should have no problem avoiding these projects and catching up to Timmy.Ok, I will try to give one more argument for timmy, timmy prefere to not fight directly if he is unequiped or witout hel, like trowing objects and jumping around It's oponent, this means that jhonny would have a dificultier time hitting timmy sinse he would be jumping around trowing mail boxes, shovels, lemonade stands, etc
Jimmy could trow more them one, or even use one of them as a wepon, with he should have more skill them jhonnyJohnny is very mobile himself, so throwing objects won't do nothing here. Johnny should have no problem avoiding these projects and catching up to Timmy.
Throwing more than one won't make a difference, though using them as a weapon is definitely useful, as Timmy has Weapon Mastery. Johnny's definitely going to have trouble with that.Jimmy could trow more them one, or even use one of them as a wepon, with he should have more skill them jhonny
And he still has lazer vision
Well, if spamed he will, even more like Timmy uses It, he less aim for the foe and more to things the foe might use, like if jhonny take a shovel to fight timmy, he would just melt thee shovelThrowing more than one won't make a difference, though using them as a weapon is definitely useful, as Timmy has Weapon Mastery. Johnny's definitely going to have trouble with that.
Johnny should have no problem with laser vision either.
From 8:06 to 9:11 shows you how good Johnny is at using the environment around to an advantage.Well, if spamed he will, even more like Timmy uses It, he less aim for the foe and more to things the foe might use, like if jhonny take a shovel to fight timmy, he would just melt thee shovel
Timmy taking shovel and fighting yoda style would be cool to see
Country blockFrom 8:06 to 9:11 shows you how good Johnny is at using the environment around to an advantage.