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Season 1, Episode 9. Back when the show was Hand Drawn. Though Seasons 2, 3, and 4 to an extent was half Hand Drawn, Half Flash Animated.
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Johnny Test vs Monkey D. Luffy (Pre-Timeskip)
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Yes, LS is a viable option but you need to have low start in lag and a huge "hit box" to still hit him behind all of that wind
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1. If Luffy tries to suck it up, he's left vulnerable and Johnny can easily attack Luffy at that point.
2. If Luffy tries to withstand it via LS, he'll still take the damage, and since Johnny is over 2x stronger than him, that's not a good idea.
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Or now jhonny is with both hands in luff mouth and both are unconfortable
And without a good resistence to back It up y
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I've already countered that before.
True. He could also counter it with Balloon. Which allows him to reduce the amount of damage he takes as it's spread around his body.
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Becoming a ballon woukdn't make wind base atacks have easyer time overpowerring him?
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Going to sleep now. Tired asf.
Good night!
Good night!
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It would blow him away, but it'd do minimal damage since Balloon does attack reduction
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So he couldn't atack jhonny trough the tornado hands in this state
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Nope, he still has other options like Gum Gum Storm, or Gum Gum Hanabi.
There's also another ability he could use instead of sucking in the air, or turning into a Balloon to minimize damage: Gum Gum Kazaguruma, 1. Mind you Luffy will still take damage by the Tornados, however, he won't take knockback, and he can also grab onto Johnny while he's holding out the tornado, since Johnny keeps his arms out while the tornado is still active.
Like I said before, Luffy has far too many counters and far too versatile for Johnny to do any lasting damage.
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How will Luffy be able to grab Johnny when he can't even see him due to a city sized tornado covering his vision?
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I'm surprised people voted for Johnny.
I'd thought people would vote for Incon or Luffy.
I'd thought people would vote for Incon or Luffy.
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Not like a traditional balloon, he just gains the shape of a balloon
Balloon is actually a good ass counter, never thought of that
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he still full of air, no?
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He'll still get blown away from the winds of the tornado, so it's a lose-lose situation for Luffy here.
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this make sense, but would still be dificult see were jhnny is in the other side of the tornado (spinel could negate this by make a giant first and AOE to hit jhonny)
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Luffy’s senses are stupidly good to where he doesn’t need to even see him to sense him, he’ll be fine
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Johnny will be at the same place as where he shot the tornado. Luffy just stretches where he last saw him. He has extremely good senses, instincts and luck to do so.
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fair, what was power pods counter?
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It giver heat resistence? power pods can be a linear blast or a big AOE
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Let's see them, jhonny start's spaming tornado hands and teleport
Luff pass trough It and hit jhonny
Jhonny changes to power pods + teleportation that have a lot less start and end lag but less AOE
Makes sense?
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He can't teleport when he's still in mid tornado hands.
Also this wincon is still VERY VERY unlikely. You're assuming that Luffy won't get a single hit in on Johnny, which is untrue. I already countered Random's point with Gum Gum Storm, Stamp, Kazaguruma. Not saying that Johnny can't win. But his wincon is EXTREMELY unlikely.
It's as if you're arguing that Johnny knows that if Luffy gets a hit in, then it's game over (which is true), but Johnny doesn't know that.
Once Johnny uses Tornado hands, Luffy has alot of options:
1) Suck the Tornado (in doing so he can use):
2) Stick his feet into the ground (since he has higher LS):
3) Turn into a balloon to reduce damage:
- Point 1
4) Turn into a balloon AND stick his feet into the ground:
- Point 1 and 2
Also this wincon is still VERY VERY unlikely. You're assuming that Luffy won't get a single hit in on Johnny, which is untrue. I already countered Random's point with Gum Gum Storm, Stamp, Kazaguruma. Not saying that Johnny can't win. But his wincon is EXTREMELY unlikely.
It's as if you're arguing that Johnny knows that if Luffy gets a hit in, then it's game over (which is true), but Johnny doesn't know that.
Once Johnny uses Tornado hands, Luffy has alot of options:
1) Suck the Tornado (in doing so he can use):
- Gum Gum Storm
- Gum Gum Stamp
- Gum Gum Hanabi
- Really any of his Gum Gum moves (which are ALOT)
2) Stick his feet into the ground (since he has higher LS):
- Gum Gum Kazaguruma
- Gum Gum Rocket + Gum Gum Bell
- Gum Gum Marunoko
- Once again any of his Gum Gum moves
3) Turn into a balloon to reduce damage:
- Point 1
4) Turn into a balloon AND stick his feet into the ground:
- Point 1 and 2
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yes, never said anything against that
Ok, could you just point were you counter point? I think i missed It
Acctually no, jhonny X is a long ranged spammer and knows that being hitted is bad, and even if he is hitted or need to go in close combat fight he could use animal transformation to at least be able to somewhat be able to fight against luff or just get into log distance again
ok, and when jhonny stop using It sinse he noticed isn't a as great of a option? I guess power pots aren't jhonny best option here but how would luff dodge It's AOE? (the size of a big american house if I remenber correctly)
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Check reply #129 and #132.
Not at all. Luffy is an expert fighter. Luffy fought wild animals as a kid with ease. This sounds like extreme downplay against Luffy.
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Man I wish I wasn't at school right now.
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I mean, this animals still have jhonny x AP and arent animalistic in intelect, and isn't animals like a snake, It's more of elephant
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Luffy is also far smarter than Johnny so it quite literally does not matter. Also that would be an ez win for Luffy if Johnny ever bothered to get in close range.
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As I say, inteligence isn't like AP, It only gives advantage, if your oponent is more inteligent them you, don't means the same as having a AP advantage, fighting a snake that has human inteligence is more dificult them fightig a animalist one regardles of your inteligence.
yes, I'm not arguin that jhonny would win in close combat, I'm just saing that jhonny wouldn't be completly overwelmed by luff combat skill thanks to being able to insta transmut to animals mid close combat
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he would get stomped in close range. like it won't be a contest. Not only is Luffy a seasonal fighter who's exceptionally good at adapting mid combat, but he is also extremely versatile and has numerous of moves that can take Johnny down regardless of the animal he chooses, you also have to realize that Luffy still has the far far higher LS.
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fair, I geting trow into luff direction alread, so ye, voting luff for your reasons, good debate
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Likewise! It was fun.
Probably the most I've argued for any One Piece character lol
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I forgot to mention that Johnny can fight while blind, so it won't be easy for Luffy to.hit Johmny either.
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Forgot this was Alabasta. Smart man
Luffy still has ridiculous range so he’ll be fine
Check his intelligence, fighting someone with instinctive reactions shouldn’t be too difficult
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Johnny can definitely match Luffy's range.
True. Luffy will have troubles at first, but he'll definitely adapt to that. Though, the same can be said for Johnny.
This is actually a very even matchup. Gotta pat myself on the back for making this.
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