Johnny Test vs Junko Enoshima (Part 2)

[RandomGuy2345]

Still a little salty about what happened last time, so I'm making this. Oh and, Johnny got some new stuff that will help him here.

7-C Johnny and High 7-C Junko will be used here (Base Johnny vs Junko as Monokuma).

Johnny will have all of his equipment except for his Bionic Arm and Black Hole.

Both fighters start 5 meters away from each other.

Speed is equalized.

Fight takes place in Porkbelly.

"Before that everytime a computer froze... I used to put it in the microwave and nuke it!”: 9 (Pika, Adem, Bruh, Dragon, azontr, Expectro, Butler, Cima, Velox)

"Prank calling is the best thing ever. Lets do it!":

Inconclusive:

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Is Junko like in a control room? That's how she controls Monokuma

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Is Junko like in a control room? That's how she controls Monokuma

If that's the case, then yes.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Though keep in mind that they both start 5 meters away from each other.

 

[Pikaman]

Ok so what exactly has changed from the last time? Any new equipment or abilities or what?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Ok so what exactly has changed from the last time? Any new equipment or abilities or what?

Johnny is much, much more skilled than before.

And yes. He has gotten a couple more items that'll help him here.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Johnny is much, much more skilled than before.

Well, Monokuma could fight on-par with Sakura, soooooo

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Well, Monokuma could fight on-par with Sakura, soooooo

Isn't she the person that went 400-0, which is extremely vague, and doesn't really do much?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Isn't she the person that went 400-0, which is extremely vague, and doesn't really do much?

She also casually fodderized Mukuro and it's stated that Mukuro needs to enter her Battle Trance Mode to be able to match her

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I'm just gonna put Johnny's skill summary here:

Johnny is comparable to the likes of Dukey, who was stated to be programmed with the DNA of Kung Fu masters. Dukey is also the same person (or dog in this case) who was able to predict a laser coming its way to attack Johnny. Johnny also states that he knows karate. He was also stated to have Ninja DNA. He’s also shown to be skilled enough to pop two water balloons with a badge while blind.

Johnny and his crew were able to defeat a bunch of rogue Penguins. However, these aren't your average Penguins. After figuring out that global warming was decreasing the Penguin population, they decided to take matters into their own hands and solo all of the military forces. The Penguins legit captured Argentina in a very short amount of time. Keep in mind that these Penguins have shown to have no military experience prior to this, and yet they were able to do all of this in a relatively short timeframe. Johnny was able to casually solo multiple robot enemies in simulation training, even receiving compliments from The General himself. At the end of the episode, Johnny and the crew were able to defeat the rogue Penguins and save the world. Johnny was able to accomplish all of this thanks to his extensive knowledge on video games.

 

[Pikaman]

Johnny is much, much more skilled than before

I hate to break it to you but skill will probably always be Monokuma’s side

And yes. He has gotten a couple more items that'll help him here.

List them and what they do then

Isn't she the person that went 400-0, which is extremely vague, and doesn't really do much?

She’s the Ultimate Martial Artist, and being an “Ultimate” is no joke. She is to Martial Arts what other Ultimates are their trades, and I think you know how ridiculous Ultimates are from your previous DRV threads

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I hate to break it to you but skill will probably always be Monokuma’s side

Johnny fights on par with people who have Precognition (Dukey), and he defeated Penguins who were able to solo the entire military and capture Argentina in a short timeframe with no prior fighting or military experience.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

List them and what they do then

Supernatural Luck is quite literally the perfect counter to Junko's bullshit Precog (and even then, Johnny fights on par with people who have Precog).

And you obviously can't forget his Time fuckery abilities (can stop or rewind Junko for up to 5 mins, and can completely stop time for as long as he wants).

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Welp, this is the Mukuro skill summary

Mukuro is the Ultimate Soldier, scouted and trained in the military group "Fenrir" ever since she was a child, and has never received even a single injury during all of her years fighting as a soldier. It has also been stated that even a single member of Fenrir is the equivalent of an entire company of soldiers, and Mukuro is the best among all of the Fenrir members. (Her training included parachuting down the while the sky was being bombarded with anti-air fire)

Due to her training she is highly proficient in both a variety of firearms, knives, explosives such as grenades, and hand-to-hand combat to the degree she is able to hold her own, or even defeat equally as trained individuals, she has fought and bested the Ultimate Swordswoman Peko Pekoyama in a sword fight while only using a knife.

• Peko Pekoyama, who was trained by the Kuzuryu clan since she was a baby, was capable of holding her grounds against Kyosuke Munakata, who effortlessly thrashed, The Ultimate Wrestler, Great Gozu and sees Takumi Hijirihara as a non-threat. It should be noted that Takumi himself is skilled enough to deflect multiple fireworks from Ted Chikatilo right back at him with his eyes closed, fodderize Mukuro's worshippers even when they ambushed him (One of them completely wiped out the 8th branch security guards), and Juzo Sakakura, the Ultimate Boxer, seems to fear him.

Mukuro has also killed all eight of the Madarai Brothers (The Madarai brothers were a group of octuplets that were collectively considered skilled enough to be the Ultimate Bodyguard) without taking even a single hit; and that was when they ambushed her.

And once she used Battle Trance, Mukuro fought off endless hordes of Monobears, up to a hundred robots which were programmed specifically to fight Mukuro while being shot at by mounted machine gun turrets, and was defeating them without suffering a single injury with nothing but a sharpened pipe.
This feat made Junko say "Describing her as ''Ultimate" no longer did her justice. Mukuro had transcended the boundaries of humanity and became a pure killing machine."

 

[Bruhtelho]

Supernatural Luck is quite literally the perfect counter to Junko's bullshit Precog (and even then, Johnny fights on par with people who have Precog).

And you obviously can't forget his Time fuckery abilities (can stop or rewind Junko for up to 5 mins, and can completely stop time for as long as he wants).

not quite to the level that Junko has plus her intelligence allowing her to use it to a far greater extent.

also what can Junko even do about these abilities? like the Luck is already against her since thats how Makoto defeated her and time stuff just isn't gonna allow her to do anything once its used.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

I mean, she can predict Nagito's luck, while Makoto's "doesn't come out as much as Nagito's luck, it always happens and most of those situations are "convenient" for his condition or simply situations that are in his favor and mostly what he wants to happen, unlike Makoto's luck, which only takes action during "mostly" near-death situations and take note that Makoto is clueless on how his luck works or at least to manipulate his luck to some extent unlike Nagito which might be also another factor on why she can't read his luck"

So it really depends on how his luck works

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Mukuro is the Ultimate Soldier, scouted and trained in the military group "Fenrir" ever since she was a child, and has never received even a single injury during all of her years fighting as a soldier. It has also been stated that even a single member of Fenrir is the equivalent of an entire company of soldiers, and Mukuro is the best among all of the Fenrir members. (Her training included parachuting down the while the sky was being bombarded with anti-air fire)

Johnny >>> Penguins >>> Military Soldiers. Johnny's on the exact same level as this. He also didn't receive a single injury throughout his fight against the Penguins. Johnny did all of this thanks to applying his knowledge of video games in battle.

not quite to the level that Junko has plus her intelligence allowing her to use it to a far greater extent.

Junko's Precog comes from her Analytical Prediction being so good to where it borders on Precog, while Dukey just flat out has Precog. And in general, it's Precog that's the more useful ability, and Johnny scales to Dukey. I can concede on the intel argument.

I mean, she can predict Nagito's luck, while Makoto's "doesn't come out as much as Nagito's luck, it always happens and most of those situations are "convenient" for his condition or simply situations that are in his favor and mostly what he wants to happen, unlike Makoto's luck, which only takes action during "mostly" near-death situations and take note that Makoto is clueless on how his luck works or at least to manipulate his luck to some extent unlike Nagito which might be also another factor on why she can't read his luck"

So it really depends on how his luck works

Johnny's luck is basically active at all times. It's not nearly as inconsistent as Nagito's.

 

[Bruhtelho]

So it really depends on how his luck works

basically just gives him really good luck like a truck about to hit him but misses and spills a bunch of goodies out the back for him when he had it.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Junko's Precog comes from her Analytical Prediction being so good to where it borders on Precog, while Dukey just flat out has Precog. And in general, it's Precog that's the more useful ability, and Johnny scales to Dukey. I can concede on the intel argument.

its not borderline precog cause it is precog. Junko's precog had shown to give her knowledge of her opponents personality, abilities, thoughts, and history, and Analytical Prediction is just an added benefit for it.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

basically just gives him really good luck like a truck about to hit him but misses and spills a bunch of goodies out the back for him when he had it.

There's more stuff that happens in the episode, too.

Like there were dogs that were chasing him and Dukey, but the dogs ran into some glass structure.

The good luck charm also helped Johnny with his basketball skills, which are ******* horrendous. He legit tried aiming it at the basket, but he ended up hitting a window instead.

Also, the good luck charm gives bad luck, too.

For an example, the delivery guy driving the truck got fired for losing all of the "goodies" that were in the truck, so if Junko (or Monokuma in this case) tries attacking Johnny, he or she would end up receiving bad luck in exchange for Johnny receiving good luck.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

its not borderline precog cause it is precog. Junko's precog had shown to give her knowledge of her opponents personality, abilities, thoughts, and history

Forgot about this part lol.

 

[Bruhtelho]

There's more stuff that happens in the episode, too.

Like there were dogs that were chasing him and Dukey, but the dogs ran into some glass structure.

The good luck charm also helped Johnny with his basketball skills, which are ******* horrendous. He legit tried aiming it at the basket, but he ended up hitting a window instead.

Also, the good luck charm gives bad luck, too.

For an example, the delivery guy driving the truck got fired for losing all of the "goodies" that were in the truck, so if Junko (or Monokuma in this case) tries attacking Johnny, he or she would end up receiving bad luck in exchange for Johnny receiving good luck.

so its similar to Nagito Komaeda's luck which she could read since she couldn't read Makoto Naegi's cause of how unpredictable its activation was.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

so its similar to Nagito Komaeda's luck which she could read since she couldn't read Makoto Naegi's cause of how unpredictable its activation was.

Thing is that how is she going to counter the bad luck the Good Luck Charm gives if she (or Monokuma) tries attacking Johnny?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Also, what Mukuro does is ******* insane, I don't think it compares to Penguins with no fighting or military experience whatsoever soloing the entire military and taking over an entire country in a short timeframe.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Thing is that how is she going to counter the bad luck the Good Luck Charm gives if she (or Monokuma) tries attacking Johnny?

she doesn't. the time stuff and supernatural luck seem bullshitty here since she can't do anything about it.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Johnny >>> Penguins >>> Military Soldiers. Johnny's on the exact same level as this. He also didn't receive a single injury throughout his fight against the Penguins. Johnny did all of this thanks to applying his knowledge of video games in battle.

Ehh. Johnny defeated the Penguins with help from his allies and their feat of capturing Argentina was done with pure firepower
Plus, even if we assume Johnny's on par with with Base Mukuro, her Base Form is nothing compared to her Battle Trance Mode

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

But like, Junko originally won via Social Influencing, does he have a counter to that now?

 

[Bruhtelho]

Also, what Mukuro does is ******* insane, I don't think it compares to Penguins with no fighting or military experience whatsoever soloing the entire military and taking over an entire country in a short timeframe.

I don't think thats very true, Makuro got her shit kicked in by Sakura Ogami when she wasn't using Battle Trance Mode.

so its basically Monokuma/Junko = Sakura Ogami >>> Mukuro without Battle Trance Mode >>> easily taking out Peko/entire company of Military Soldiers

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Ehh. Johnny defeated the Penguins with help from his allies and their feat of capturing Argentina was done with pure firepower

Yeah, and the Penguins had absolutely no experience whatsoever in using any kind of firepower, which makes it even more impressive.

But like, Junko originally won via Social Influencing, does he have a counter to that now?

No, but he has his own Social Influencing, being able to completely stop animals like dogs from attacking by just playing some background music and making a sympathetic face (here's the example), and he's very good at using reverse psychology and guilt tripping in order to get what he wants (Examples 1 and 2).

 

[Bruhtelho]

No, but he has his own Social Influencing, being able to completely stop animals like dogs from attacking by just playing some background music and making a sympathetic face (here's the example), and he's very good at using reverse psychology and guilt tripping in order to get what he wants (Examples 1 and 2).

not quite to the level that Junko has which can drive people to be suicidal, homicidal and "full of despair".

 

[RandomGuy2345]

so its basically Monokuma/Junko = Sakura Ogami >>> Mukuro without Battle Trance Mode >>> easily taking out Peko/entire company of Military Soldiers

Is it a stretch to say Johnny >>> Mukuro without BTM?

 

[Pikaman]

Supernatural Luck is quite literally the perfect counter to Junko's bullshit Precog (and even then, Johnny fights on par with people who have Precog).

A: Not all Supernatural Luck is on the same level or even impressive, how lucky is he?

B: Junko easily drove Nagito, the ultimate lucky student, to despair

 

[Bruhtelho]

Is it a stretch to say Johnny >>> Mukuro without BTM?

No and Yes

 

[RandomGuy2345]

not quite to the level that Junko has which can drive people to be suicidal, homicidal and "full of despair".

True, but I'm confident that Johnny can use his SI here to help.

A: Not all Supernatural Luck is on the same level or even impressive, how lucky is he?

I already explained it.

No and Yes

Elaborate now. I will not be satisfied with this vague answer.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

B: Junko easily drove Nagito, the ultimate lucky student, to despair

I should've specified that Johnny's luck isn't negating Junko's SI, but it should've been obvious that he couldn't.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Another feat Takumi (who's at the bottom of the scaling chain) did was slice Misaki's head off to take out the detonation collar on her neck with such precision that when her head fell on her body again, it attached itself to her body again

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Another feat Takumi (who's at the bottom of the scaling chain) did was slice Misaki's head off to take out the detonation collar on her neck with such precision that when her head fell on her body again, it attached itself to her body again

I wouldn't consider that on Mukuro w/o BTM levels of skill tbh.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Elaborate now. I will not be satisfied with this vague answer.

Accept the very vague answer NOW.

 

[Bruhtelho]

I wouldn't consider that on Mukuro w/o BTM levels of skill tbh.

cause it isn't lol it says right there hes the bottom of the scaling chain.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Accept the very vague answer NOW.

NO.

cause it isn't lol it says right there hes the bottom of the scaling chain.

Ik. I was just saying that this doesn't help because it's not on Mukuro w/o BTM level, which is something Johnny's arguably superior to in terms of skill.

I'm about to make a mini essay for this match, so can y'all give me a sec to make it pls?