those aren't thing she has on her person, its situation based and more times than not she'll opt to outsmart her opponent something she can't do here nor does she usually carry weapons on her. her hitting him isn't massive enough, yes she does upscale since Makoto is stated as "superior to the person who survived that explosion" but its already only a 1.18x advantage, she isn't one shotting him and Lupin has Extrasensory Perception meaning he'll sense Junko bloodlust as soon as he's in CQC with her and Junko is never getting the jump on him either thanks to it and his stealth is far better and he'd be smart enough to make use of the Camera's blindspots.
As I mentioned the Dojo has equipment for her to grab in order to fight and she
is capable of outsmarting Lupin a few times in this due to him not knowing about the precog and being forced to figure it out on his own.
As for the 'superior to the person who survived that explosion', it's not just that. Makoto is superior to the a fully healed person who, while heavily injured, no sold an explosion that would leave Lupin decently injured. I don't recall the specifics for no-selling things but Junko should be a few times stronger than Lupin in that department at least.
As for the stealth, it's been mentioned before but Junko counters it with her precog. Until Lupin catches on Junko is going to be predicting where she's going to be sneak attacked (also again, there are no cameras, Junko is going to keep tabs via her intelligence) and while Lupin's senses are going to prevent him from getting sneak attacked....... nothing about his character is capable of discerning that a high school girl is capable of molly-whopping him in a physical fight so that is going to catch him off-guard.
well yah he isn't Mukuro levels but neither is Junko, Lupin is still way more skilled than Junko has ever shown
Yes, but with what I've showed, it's not to a point where he could effortlessly beat someone who is predicting his every move. Especially not someone he isn't expecting to be as strong as Junko is.
"be mobile in general" is plenty in this kinda fight, he'd dodge her attacks a lot easier thanks to it and the examples you showed are already a lot better than anything we've ever seen Junko do, yes shes grabs weapons but more skilled opponents have had no problem dodging or simply blocking them. once Lupin realizes shes a lot tankier than he is which he will soon given its CQC, he'll likely retreat and Junko isn't one to chase after people giving him more than enough time to whip out one of his instant wincons.
Again, the acrobatics isn't like that. By 'be more mobile' I mean being Spiderman and swinging around buildings or running down a hallway to dodge danmaku, the most he does in CQC that counts as acrobatics typically is just jumping over his opponent to get into a blind spot. While Lupin is capable of dodging her attacks he absolutely isn't capable of blocking them well due to her solid advantage. Also she isn't just going to sit around and let Lupin do whatever, if her precog says he's going to do something that's going to result in a instant loss, she's going to do something to either stop it or counter it
There is good reason why he has 'Sometimes, if he does not have any information on an opponent or is not fully prepared for a fight, he can be caught off guard.' in his weakness section. Junko doesn't match what he'd expect from her which would result in more sloppy opening moves compared to what I showed since Lupin is fighting people he thinks are highly skilled combatants that he had plenty of info on.
acknowledged already, didn't see that it said Makoto was superior to her he upscales in durability more than ap but i'm not really here to argue if his ap does or not its not substantial enough to make a massive difference given its already so small of only 1.18x and Lupins degree of pain resistance means he could likely survive a few good hits from her if it actually happens.
It's only 1.18 times if you assume that the
severely injured Misaki is just as strong as her fully healed self
and that her no-selling the 0.039 ton explosion is comparable to Lupin getting noticeably hurt from lesser explosions. The two feats are wildly different and the context behind them result in Junko upscaling several times over Lupin
but that's an assumption we can't safely make, we've only ever seen Junko make use of the skill of technology based characters, we have no idea what she could do with the lab also the fact this is pre-tragedy means Junko is gonna have less eyes within the building which gives Lupin more means to avoid her.
Again, Junko could just use her prediction to figure out where Lupin is. She doesn't need extra eyes for that and no she doesn't only make use of her ability for technological means. She has also used it for things like Neurology, I'm not saying she can suddenly become a master swordswoman from picking up a kendo stick but her intelligence is more than good enough to user her analytical prediction for bow and arrows. Also she can literally learn new things by watching Lupin in action.
The Walther P38 and modified Fiat 500 already give him a range advantage and well he doesn't like killing, he could just incap her by shooting her in the leg, watch with the grappling hook means he could escape by grappling onto something around the room or even likely restrain junko with it, smoke pellets completely shut off Junko since she has no way of seeing through them well Lupin would be unfazed, and the pocket knife could pierce Junko thanks to piercing dmg
I really don't believe Junko stands much of a chance, Lupin either has her matched or beaten in most categories.
Walter P38 can't do anything due to the sheer stat gap, the modified Fiat 500 isn't going to help because Lupin isn't likely to just drive it into the school (definitely not as a first resort), her leg has far more durability to tank the shot, while the grappling hook can help escape Junko's prediction is more than enough to figure out how it works by looking at it (Lupin doesn't even hide it) and would be capable of just sidestepping it, smoke pellets don't help since again her precog is negating Lupin's stealth to begin with, and the pocket knife doesn't work because again durability gap.
Junko's durability is legit over 500,000 times above the best Lupin has to offer,
and that's me underestimating.
I do agree Lupin has Junko beat in several areas, but to act like she has no win conditions is just inaccurate due to Lupin's own character and the fact that Junko has means of tricking Lupin early on.
