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Agreed.I think we can all accept only Jinbei's Buso durability getting boosted to High 6-A (scabbard lvl) for now.
Who's Who didn't have a weapon out, and even if he did, he ambushed Drake and caught him off-guardWho's-Who might've hurt Drake here.https://cdn.****************.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_990_14.jpg
Hell Drake even thought he might've died there(granted might've only been because of Queen).
Yeah figured it wasn't good enough.Who's Who didn't have a weapon out, and even if he did, he ambushed Drake and caught him off-guard
The thing about Drake is, as pointed out in an earlier CRT on him and Buso Zoro, not only was Drake no longer one of the Tobiroppo when Jack made that statement, but he has actual feats contradicting the claim of him only being Tobiroppo-lvl as well.Yeah figured it wasn't good enough.
You know what. Why aren't the Tobi Roppo High 6-A? Because of one character which was immediately their after disputed? Are we really claiming that the Tobi-Roppo have to be over 1000x times weaker than the Scabbards because of one statement? Even when it makes more sense for them to be higher? (I.e buso Luffy being overpowered by Ulti, Page One getting up after an Elephant Gun, Ulti not instantly dying by an attack from a serious emperor, buso Luffy himself blocked an attack from Kaidou)?Who's Who doesn't have any feats on that level. Being confident enough to take on Jack isn't enough since Who's-Who doesn't have any real feats to support him being above Tobiroppo level.
Drake has actual feats that contradict the statement along with the fact that he was no longer a Tobiroppo when Jack said that.You know what. Why aren't the Tobi Roppo High 6-A? Because of one character which was immediately their after disputed? Are we really claiming that the Tobi-Roppo have to be over 1000x times weaker than the Scabbards because of one statement? Even when it makes more sense for them to be higher?
Base Luffy, and he wasn't using dura-neg buso against Ulti(I.e buso Luffy being overpowered by Ulti,
So? Luffy's G3 didn't have High 6-A AP at the time, he only hurt Kaido with Red Roc due to dura neg Buso (aka Ryou)Page One getting up after an Elephant Gun,
That still effortlessly made a massive hole in her body, her getting back up was staminaUlti not instantly dying by an attack from a serious emperor
Durability only, just like Jinbei's Buso, buso Luffy himself blocked an attack from Kaidou)?
1st was to hype up the moment when Yamato one shot Ulti.(I.e buso Luffy being overpowered by Ulti, Ulti not instantly dying by an attack from a serious emperor,
That makes it consistentJinbe got a hole in his torso by Akainu but didn't die like Ace.
Proof?1st was to hype up the moment when Yamato one shot Ulti.
Same buso that Ulti overpowered lol.Durability only, just like Jinbei's Buso
Read the chapter foolProof?
Did lmao. That's really subjective.Read the chapter fool
These don't seem to actually damage Yamato, since she's totally fine afterwards.Got some 6-A Tobi-Roppo stuff.
https://cdn.****************.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_996_04.jpg
Blasts from the Headliners' bazookas do damage to Yamato.
Apoo's normal AP already scales to Drake/casual Buso Zoro, and none of the Beast Pirates scale to Apoo's normal AP besides Queen and King, who already have scaling above that.Mere Headliner Apoo blocks attacks from Zoro and Drake.
https://cdn.****************.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_995_09.jpg
Outlier at best. And he quickly recovered from this, not to mention he didn't seem that damaged by this at all.Luffy is holding his head and is clearly bruised from Ulti's headbutt.
https://cdn.****************.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_983_12.jpg
Nothing about that shows that Ulti scales to Gear 4, just that she scales above Gear 3 since Luffy felt that Gear 4 would be needed to take her out.Luffy is then about to use Gear 4th.https://cdn.****************.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_983_15.jpg
The Same Gear 4th Luffy tanks a Bolo Breath.
https://cdn.****************.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/1002_Page_14-15v2.png
Kidd's statement in the 2nd panel suggests superior power to himself(at least the attacks he used to that point).
https://cdn.****************.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/1003%20Page%206%20TS%2BLvl.png
One of said attacks makes Kaidou scream in pain.
https://cdn.****************.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/1002%20Page%206-7.png
So?Yamato complements Luffy's strength.
https://cdn.****************.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_984_14.jpg
https://cdn.****************.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_996_05.jpgThese don't seem to actually damage Yamato, since she's totally fine afterwards.
Even if they did hurt Yamato, it'd be a gigantic outlier.
Why is the Headliner over 1000x stronger than the Tobi-Roppo, whom are called the "Strongest Headliners"https://cdn.****************.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_929_14.jpgApoo's normal AP already scales to Drake/casual Buso Zoro, and none of the Beast Pirates scale to Apoo's normal AP besides Queen and King, who already have scaling above that.
He was clearly bruised. That's enough for the same tier in my opinion.Outlier at best. And he quickly recovered from this, not to mention he didn't seem that damaged by this at all.
Scales above Gear 3rd when the same Gear 3rd that should be around the same strength as Katakuri. The Katakuri who is called the "Greatest Masterpiece of the Charlotte Family"https://cdn.****************.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_882_03.jpgNothing about that shows that Ulti scales to Gear 4, just that she scales above Gear 3 since Luffy felt that Gear 4 would be needed to take her out.
It does. If Who's Who is High 6-A then so is Jinbe.Does that have anything to do with jinbe?
If it's not, don't talk about that on this thread
Mmm I see but it's not fully related to the op/starter thread but sure?It does. If Who's Who is High 6-A then so is Jinbe.
I don't see a single scan for Who's-Who being High 6-A there.It does. If Who's Who is High 6-A then so is Jinbe.
Proof of > than Apoo. Read the context.I don't see a single scan for Who's-Who being High 6-A there.
Absolutely nothing puts WW above Apoo at all.Proof of > than Apoo. Read the context.
https://cdn.****************.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_929_14.jpgAbsolutely nothing puts WW above Apoo at all.
This was stated all well before Apoo was revealed to be a member of the Beast Pirates, and even then he's not stated in the official rankings.https://cdn.****************.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_929_14.jpg
Still puts them above Hawkins. And the other evidence I've presented should suffice.This was stated all well before Apoo was revealed to be a member of the Beast Pirates, and even then he's not stated in the official rankings.
BASE Hawkins, not his Devil Fruit.Still puts them above Hawkins. And the other evidence I've presented should suffice.
1. No evidence that the Tobiroppo scaled above Base Hawkins, or that the Beast Pirates knew about Hawkins.Why not his devil fruit?
1. There's no way to know how strong he is if they didn't test him1. No evidence that the Tobiroppo scaled above Base Hawkins, or that the Beast Pirates knew about Hawkins.
Didn't he foresee his defeat and surrender to Kaido while Kid and Killer kept fighting?1. There's no way to know how strong he is if they didn't test him
2. They probably deduced his strength off of his fight with Kaido, and I see no reason why we should assume Hawkins didn't use Goma no So against Kaido. It would make no sense considering his objective was to defeat him.
Oh yeah you're right. Either way, my first point still stands.Didn't he foresee his defeat and surrender to Kaido while Kid and Killer kept fighting?
How would that break scaling exactly?And my 2nd point still stands.
Perospero was matched by 2 Sulong Minks.What about the Perospero stuff, or the fact that no one has debunked my rebuttal of the fodder feats?
Because having the Tobiroppo scale above Killer (who scales above the Scabbards) makes absolutely zero sense!How would that break scaling exactly?