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Jin Yong wuxia novel discussion thread (0.1)
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Eh, that's part of Chi Manipulation then I guess.
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There are a lot of chi manipulation in wuxia verses in general.
Þ╝òÕèƒ usually allows pseudo flight, running on walls and waters. Stronger Þ╝òÕèƒ users can possess true flight. It is a form of chi used in travelling.
Þ╝òÕèƒ usually allows pseudo flight, running on walls and waters. Stronger Þ╝òÕèƒ users can possess true flight. It is a form of chi used in travelling.
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Also apparently causing winds with raw force is still Air Manipulation, so air manipulation ig.
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Technically, but just saying air manipulation on their pages would be fine as their actual tier is already higher.
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Does Guo Jing or A-Qing have feats of palm winds?
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Finally found a significant strength feat for Pre-Timskip Golden Wheel Monk!
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Pre-timskip Golden Wheel monk is stronger than the combined strength of 9 oxes.
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Pre-timskip Golden Wheel monk is stronger than the combined strength of 9 oxes.
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Who does he scale to?
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Guo Jing did not have too many feats in RoTCH since Yang Guo was the main character, however he can be scaled directly from Yang Guo via Huang Yao Shi's statement:
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There's also them being part of the new top 5 in the end, so they definitely scale.
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Pre Time Skip Golden Wheel Monk is much weaker to compared to Post 16 time-skip Yang Guo and Guo Jing, so his strength would seem to be their lower boundary.
So that would be RoTCH Guo Jing?
So that would be RoTCH Guo Jing?
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So that would be RoTCH Guo Jing?Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
EOS RotCH Guo Jing is several times stronger than Pre Timeskip Golden Wheel Monk due to his exponentially increasing inner Qi thanks to Jiu Yin Zhen Jing and Quan Zhen Chi cultivation over the 16 years.
Pre timskip Golden Wheel Monk's strength is 70% of Pre Timeskip Guo Jing's based on this statement:
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Hmmn. Should we make 3 different keys for end of LotCH, beginning of RotCH and post-timeskip?
Although were Yang Guo's feat pre or post time skip?
Although were Yang Guo's feat pre or post time skip?
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We do need more keys for Guo Jing, I'll fix that.
Although which feats by Yang Guo are pre-timeskip and which are post?
Although which feats by Yang Guo are pre-timeskip and which are post?
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So pre-timeskip Yang Guo would be at least 9-C/9-B then.
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Wait was that statement by Huang Yaoshi pre or post time skip?
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Not 9-C, 9-B is the bottom line imo. Pre-timeskip Yang Guo is already stated to be much superior to the Wall-Level 17 bricks pulverizing woman who tried to hit him 16 years later.Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
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Ah I see, definitely 9-B then.
Although how did you get Class 50 for 9 oxen? The weight of 9 oxen is just Class 10.
Although how did you get Class 50 for 9 oxen? The weight of 9 oxen is just Class 10.
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These powerful beasts can out-pull a big team of horses. In fact, while a team of oxen can pull its own body weight at a walking pace, for short bursts of six to eight feet, a well-trained team of oxen can pull up to 2!-W times their body weight — or as much as 12,000 to 13,000 pounds.Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
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I mean using the absolute limit strength does make sense in this context.
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Also, a very casual strength feat for Post Time Skip Yang guo was his strength to single handedly control 8 war horses easily, even after suffering injuries after his battle with Golden Wheel Monk. His strength has to be superior to the 8 hourses in order to control them.
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This reinforces the previous feat.
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This reinforces the previous feat.
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I have updated Guo Jing's page too.
Should there be two keys for end of LotCH Guo Jing and pre-timeskip RotCH Guo Jing though?
Should there be two keys for end of LotCH Guo Jing and pre-timeskip RotCH Guo Jing though?
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I mean do they really vary that much in power?
There's like a 12 year gap though, so I'm not sure.
There's like a 12 year gap though, so I'm not sure.
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The gap was INSANE.Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
LoTCH Guo Jing was only barely able to match 300 stances against his master Hong Qi Gong. Pre-timeskip RoTCH Guo Jing surpassed his master, who also improved a lot during the 12 years thanks to practising the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing, by a very small margin. This is almost like a 10x improvement.
To put things in perspective, LoTCH Ou Yang Feng was stronger than Hong Qi Gong after he went mad from practicing the inversed Jiu Yin Zhen Jing, making him the World Number 1 martial artist in LotCH.
By RoTCH, Ou Yang Feng's power strengthened too, but now he is equally matched by Hong Qi Gong who caught up faster than him during the 12 years thanks to him practising the ACTUAL version of Jiu Yin Zhen Jing.
Guo Jing in RoTCH has already surpassed Hong Qi Gong by a small margin, so:
RoTCH Guo Jing >= Rotch Hong Qi Gong = Ou Yang Feng > LotCH Ou Yang Feng > LotCH Hong Qi Gong >>> LotCH Guo JIng.
The 12 year changed Guo JIng completely bro.
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Alright I'm fix that tomorrow morning.
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I think for characters from Wuxia novel, their martical art should be detailedly explained.
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Is anyone willing to do that?