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No, why would that make everyone 2-C? If we haven't said anything yet
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If it is a 2-C structure it would via gods of destruction. If not then it wouldnt.
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Please don't confuse this thread with another thread. The other thread where 2-C overtime thing was decided was because of his potential of flowing into the present timeline.
That has absolutely nothing to do with this thread as this thread is about the structure of U7 being 2-C.
Kukui, will you please stop derailing this thread by bringing up stuff from other threads?
That has absolutely nothing to do with this thread as this thread is about the structure of U7 being 2-C.
Kukui, will you please stop derailing this thread by bringing up stuff from other threads?
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Zamasu isnt becoming 2-C anytime soon. Nor are the GoDs.
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Plenty agree, at least to an extent anyway. Ya sure ?
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AKM sama said:
This thread is about Zamasu and im talking about Zamasu. Its not derailing so, with all due respect stop asking me to do something im not doing please.
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- Universe being the size of 2.5 universes doesn't matter. Or else we better make all DC Comics Universe-busters 2-B
- Destroying space-time on a Planetary scale =/= Universal scale
- A Universe having parellel or pocket dimensions connected to it doesn't make it 2-C, just means that the full structure, the Universe, is split into parts.
- For instance, we consider Aesir from Bayonetta 3-A and not 2-C, because the Trinity of Realities were originally one universe split into three. Keep in mind that one of these realities is thousands of times larger than our main universe. So favouritism towards DB cannot be allowed.
- The infinite gap argument is meaningless because rarely do fictions consider it. We go by feats not by what you think makes sense. Or else Raditz would be High 3-A since he and Beerus aren't infinitely apart.
- There's been like 10 threads on this already and it is always rejected.
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It's not because of size, Matt. We already consider it 2-C because of having at least 2 continuums.
No they don't. They have one but with a dimensional barrier. One day in the physical universe = one day in the Afterlife. They all share the same passage of time.
And if they have two continues than how can a timeline in ragon Ball encompass 24 continuums?
It doesn't make sense.
No they don't. They have one but with a dimensional barrier. One day in the physical universe = one day in the Afterlife. They all share the same passage of time.
And if they have two continues than how can a timeline in ragon Ball encompass 24 continuums?
It doesn't make sense.
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Size matters here, not at all? That isn't the argument.
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But Dark, the wiki itself already considers it to be true though.
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Time flows differently in the afterlife, that was stated by Goku himself.
And we were accepting this for a long time now, why is it suddenly changing? There are even notes on Zeno's page and game characters that afterlife is a universe sized separate continuum and U7 as a whole is a 2-C structure.
And we were accepting this for a long time now, why is it suddenly changing? There are even notes on Zeno's page and game characters that afterlife is a universe sized separate continuum and U7 as a whole is a 2-C structure.
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The DC Comics universe is at least three thousand times larger than ours and has hundreds of pockets realities within it separated by their own space-time barriers and I think 2-B for DC Universals is the most stupid thing.
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Okay, but this wiki says this, not me.
Demigra's 2-C rating - "Was stated to have control over all Space and Time which should include at the very least Universe 7's entire structure"
Mira's 2-C rating - "planned to merge the main universe and Demon Realm with his own power"
And other characters like Future Warrior and Future Warrior(XV2) are also scaled from them.
Zeno's 2-C rating - "However, Zen'ō is still a Multi-Universal character, as his erasure of all 12 universes didn't simply affect the physical universes, but also the universe-sized Afterlifes, the Kaioshin Realms, and every other pocket dimension in existence."
As one can see, we already consider 2-C ratings for U7's entire structure alone.
Demigra's 2-C rating - "Was stated to have control over all Space and Time which should include at the very least Universe 7's entire structure"
Mira's 2-C rating - "planned to merge the main universe and Demon Realm with his own power"
And other characters like Future Warrior and Future Warrior(XV2) are also scaled from them.
Zeno's 2-C rating - "However, Zen'ō is still a Multi-Universal character, as his erasure of all 12 universes didn't simply affect the physical universes, but also the universe-sized Afterlifes, the Kaioshin Realms, and every other pocket dimension in existence."
As one can see, we already consider 2-C ratings for U7's entire structure alone.
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Dark, that statement has nothing to do with zamasu though, that statement predates him. By like a decade and then some.
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Game doesn't scale to manga.
Second, the "time flows differently" in the Afterlife was debunk. It just means that people don't feel the passage of time, thus never aging and having Infinite stamina.
Second, the "time flows differently" in the Afterlife was debunk. It just means that people don't feel the passage of time, thus never aging and having Infinite stamina.
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Matthew , nothing differentiating the game and the manga though.
Exactly the same in both.
Exactly the same in both.
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Isn't Zeno's 2-C rating specifically because he nuked every realm in the future timeline, including the afterlives?
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The point is not about canon or non canon. It's about the explanation written on their pages which already considers the structure of U7 to be 2-C.
And Goku says - "If you use it in a place where time flows like Earth...."
http://*********.com/Manga/Dragon-Ball/Chapter-476?id=261014#9
And Goku says - "If you use it in a place where time flows like Earth...."
http://*********.com/Manga/Dragon-Ball/Chapter-476?id=261014#9
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Zeno nuked 12 universes. Thus 2-C. This whole mess started due to downplay arguments that "The Dragon Ball Multiverse is just a large Universe because same timeline".
Zeno is 2-C for nuking 12 universes.
Zeno is 2-C for nuking 12 universes.
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I agree we should remove the note, that is outdated. Can you do it, Dark?
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Dark, not everything he said ever happens to be instantly unreliable. He lived there for 7 years, he probably actually could be reliable.
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But without the afterlifes then won't Zen'o be downgraded? Because the other universes aren't separate space-time.
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I think that Demigra's justificacion should be revised I agree with you on that. He is still 2-C though due to having control over space and time and being able to send wormholes to various timelines even after he had died.
Mira's justificacion however has nothing to do with the size of the Universe. Its him merging an entire realm with the mortal Universe which is still 2-C
Zeno is....well Matt already explained that one.
Mira's justificacion however has nothing to do with the size of the Universe. Its him merging an entire realm with the mortal Universe which is still 2-C
Zeno is....well Matt already explained that one.
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I'm pretty sure the only reason Zen'o is 2-C is because of the afterlifes because we determined the other universes aren't separate ones like we always had. That is why I asked.
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