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If memory serves, it's 4 votes on Simon, 0 votes on HP, and 2 votes on inconclusive, right?
Edit: There should be something on the OP that displays the votes
Edit: There should be something on the OP that displays the votes
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It's time for... stomp Simon vs The High Priest
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I vote for Simon bc Abstract Existence stuff
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Hmmm catching up on the thread and it looks like inconclusive. Simon can't get through HP's probability manipulation and HP can't down Simon.
Think of it this way. Simon can turn a 0% possibility of his survival to 100% victory while a regular Magic God can turn all infinite of their possibilities to 100% passively. Fairy Spell is a power that set all of Othinus' infinite possibilities to 0% meaning she was only capable of 100% failure and as a Magic God she causally turned all infinite of these possibilities to 100% success. There's really no doubt on which is more versatile and greater in scale and this isn't even discussing the level of a true Magic God. Like posted above: "Having resistances to certain hax can help characters/things to withstand them, but only if the specific resistances are around the same scale as the hax being used against them, or better." Historically "scale" in this situation refers to % of certainty and # of possibilities, but foremost judged by which feat is more impressive. Like for example The Transcendence v Othinus match, the only one I can think of off the top where Magic God probability manipulation was cancelled out because both characters could control the set of infinite possibilities and thus had the same potency. But if we need more clarification on potency I can probably ask Bambu, Schnee, Dargoo or someone since this seems like the point of contention.
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I still have opinions on why this is incorrect, but since we’re arguing in endless circles at this point, I would prefer to have it on that way.
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I actually agree with Zensum on that personally
That said if Simon can't be affected by Othinus isn't this a stomp anyway?
That said if Simon can't be affected by Othinus isn't this a stomp anyway?
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Simon has Acausality type 2, any change to any other point in time is meaningless, as he only exists in one point. The only thing that truly matters is Probability Manipulation within the time he exists in, and Simon just passively cancels out the high priest's probability altering
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Why is Simons cancelling out High priest with his?
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Because he has resistance to probability manipulation, since Simon's is passive
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Simons being passive doesn't give him resistance, Type 2 Acausality gives him resistance
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Passive meaning it's always active. He goes against another one's probability just by existing. But, if I'm wrong, then yeah, Acausality type 2 is the reason he's resistant to it
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I’m aware but if you’re probability Manip is that much stronger then there’s no reason it can’t simply be changed back
Type 2 still works though
Type 2 still works though
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So what's your vote towards?
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I mean does high priest even have a win con?
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Speed advantage
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HP is losing his speed
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Oh damn... What would the speed be then?
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Unknown from what Im seeing
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I dislike discussions like this so just a real quick thing
It is my opinion that turning 1, 10,000, or infinite possibilities from 0 to 100% are all of equal potency without further context, and that the act of affecting more possibilities is more akin to range than actual potency. Thanks.
It is my opinion that turning 1, 10,000, or infinite possibilities from 0 to 100% are all of equal potency without further context, and that the act of affecting more possibilities is more akin to range than actual potency. Thanks.
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On the page "Stomp Thread", it is stated "Unlike a match which is decisive in one character's favor, stomp matches very rarely leave any room for debate, with their outcomes coming across as predictable to anyone with even cursory knowledge of the combatants and their abilities." This match may be one such match, it is not a stomp
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Ok, so what is HP's wincon? He cant interact with Simon
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How much can his Law Manipulation help him here?
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Nothing really.
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So is this what the title suggests? A stomp?
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From what I'm getting from the pro-Simon side he's infinitely stronger, resists every, and will land a hit.
There's no wincon for the High Priest so it's a spite match. So I'll close the thread.
There's no wincon for the High Priest so it's a spite match. So I'll close the thread.
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