Itachi Uchiha vs Sesshōmaru

[HST_Master]

And to boot Speeds Equal so where is this "lol Itachi blitz" coming from?

 

[AstralKing7]

tye fact that Itachi would blitz him before he pulls his sword out while using pre cog to see which way the sword would have been pulled out before he does it gives the advantage to Itachi

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Itachi fra

 

[Schnee_One]

Itachi FRA if I haven't made that clear

 

[HST_Master]

@Astral


Speeds equal, precog isn't helping him avoid Meido again he isn't gonna see where it appears

 

[Stryk3r1337]

Itachi Uchiha via Tsukuyomi and Izanami

 

[AstralKing7]

@Astral


Speeds equal, precog isn't helping him avoid Meido again he isn't gonna see where it appears

Itachi has the speed advantage with Shunshin and pre cog helps wiht Itachi seeing attacks that wont be Meido because he will be upclose when he uses Shunshin. Im pretty sure Sessho wont use Meido at point blank cause he will get sucked in as well

 

[HST_Master]

^ Except he and the Original user Shishiki have both done so only using their own Meido's to avoid the other

 

[AstralKing7]

Itachi doesnt have a Meido which means Sessho wont be able to avoid his, and it doesnt matter because Itachi would still be able to attack before he pulls out his sword

 

[HST_Master]

Sesshomaru is capable of using more than one......

Also you're making it seem like Itachi would ap one shot him which is not the case

 

[AstralKing7]

first of all what does Sessho scale to in the 7A tier???

 

[HST_Master]

Over 900 megatons, he's Mountain+

 

[RavenSupreme]

Sesshoumarus Meidou would Oneshot Itachi, that is a given. As would Bakusaiga, which is at least 995 Megatons.

Fun fact: Sesshoumaru can come back from dimensional BFF (Meidou) via Tensaiga.

So even when he dedices to swallow himself and Itachi into the other dimension, he can safe himself.

 

[HST_Master]

^ Along with the netherworlds Jyaki killing a normal human if in too long.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I mean, he's susanoo absolutly no-selled a 600 megatons attack with zero damages, so that at least should be able to take 900 megatons without too much.


Also, SBA, Edo Itachi, so stuff like chakra costs for susanoo aren't factors

 

[RavenSupreme]

Meidou does not work with AP. Its a 100% pure hax move. And it swallows every move, be it elemental, physical or intangible/spatial. It would render Susannon and Itachi with it useless.

Btw, found the first piece of Kagome resisting Narakus Mindtwist:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-a6scEwej2fo/VmtWemqopTI/AAAAAAAW_io/A_0xE-M74wg/w1900/14.jpg

Its even the resistance to the same Mind, Body, Soul mindtwist I linked earlier.

I will search a little more to find InuYashas resistance as well.

 

[AstralKing7]

Edo Itachi actually scales above the Kirin by a good amount in his base lol lets not forget that this itachi was healthy. He also scales from Naruto in KCM and Naruto's base in the war was already 600mt

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Itachi mindhaxes right off the bat,it is his first move in any fight.And this guy has no resistance.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So, err...What are the votes so that I can add them to the OP?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I'm for itachi

 

[Schnee_One]

Assuming this isn't a stomp since he wins with a glance

5 for Itachi (Me, Dz, Rocker, Risci, Astral)

 

[Rocker1189]

(Gargolye,Me,Astral,BFF,Korudo, Dzhindzholia, Risci,Stryk3r) 8 for Itachi.

(Raven) 1 for Sesshomura, Grace period started 13 hours ago.

 

[Rocker1189]

Looking back maybe BFF did not vote for him. Still 7 votes for Itachi.

 

[Schnee_One]

Miss count of the decade

My bad!

 

[Rocker1189]

No problem, happens to the best of us.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

sesshomaru For raven's reasons

 

[Primaris_Brian]

I vote Sesshōmaru for raven reasons.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

mean, affecting the soul does not make the mindhax stronger, it just means that its also soul manipulation.

By extension, saying that is superior for affecting the soul is like saying that resisting a flame that can burn souls means that you now are immune to heat up to 142 nonillion kelvins, as that does not affect souls

 

[Rocker1189]

And it is not mind hax anyways... It is just illusions.

 

[Dat_Dot]

Sesshomaru for reason above.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

tfw everyone is voting Sessho now. Can I ask for the exact reasons here? Because now it's just a FRA trend all of a sudden.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

I'll vote Sesshomaru for Raven's reasons.

Btw, Sessho's feat is quite low-balled, so don't forget that too.

 

[AstralKing7]

thats the problem with the argument FRA lol was the thread about using it ever resolved??

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

tfw everyone is voting Sessho now. Can I ask for the exact reasons here? Because now it's just a FRA trend all of a sudden.

Especially when these reason are being argued against.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

would like for that as well.

All itachi needs to do is point a finger, look int the eye and other stuff on that level.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I should note that a feat being lowballed doesn't mean much in a vs debate as we go by what we accepted as feats. So if the lowball is what accepted, then regardless of whether it was a lowball doesn't matter.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

What does it take to activate Shunshin again?

@Dragon

Well it does matter here. Not much, but it does.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Noting really... Just thinking about it and leaping

 

[AstralKing7]

nothing is needed to activate Shunshin lol its so fast that its said to be teleportation lol

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

btw, Sessho's feat is 1101.15 Megatons in which equals 1.10115 Gigatons of TnT....that baseline High 7-A btw....