Itachi Uchiha (Naruto) VS Daemon Spade (Katekyo no Hitman Reborn)

[M_Animefan]

Both characters High7A version is being used:
Speed is equalized:

Itachi Uchiha (Third Key):
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Itachi_Uchiha?so=search

VS

Daemon Spade (First Key):
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Daemon_Spade?so=search

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

How the **** is he supposed to put Itachi down?

 

[M_Animefan]

How the **** is he supposed to put Itachi down?

It’s human Itachi! Not Edo.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

It’s human Itachi! Not Edo.

You do realize that the only High 7-A Itachi is Edo Itachi?

 

[M_Animefan]

You do realize that the only High 7-A Itachi is Edo Itachi?

Oh.. I thought alive Itachi was high7A and 6C with susanoo

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Oh.. I thought alive Itachi was high7A and 6C with susanoo

No. Both Alive Itachis are only 7-B. High 7-A to 6-C is Edo.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Itachi 2 taps

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

This is a stomp.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Itachi crushes his soul with tsukuyomi

 

[Rez]

Make this Spade's second key so he will have wincon via bfr

 

[Rez]

Itachi crushes his soul with tsukuyomi

He resists mind manip and illusions

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

He resists mind manip and illusions

What's his potency? Because Itachi's way above baseline.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

He resists mind manip and illusions

It works on people who resist it, and it doesn't say he resists soul crush

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

It works on people who resist it, and it doesn't say he resists soul crush

Uhh, Itachi doesn't have soul manipulation.

 

[Rez]

What's his potency? Because Itachi's way above baseline.

It's quite a bit layered. It has been quite a long time since I have read katekyo Hitman so can't recall the exact number

It works on people who resist it, and it doesn't say he resists soul crush

Tsukuyomi isn't soul manip

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Uhh, Itachi doesn't have soul manipulation.

His profile does list it, and he stated he completely destroys your spirit and the databook says soul as well

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

His profile does list it, and he stated he completely destroys your spirit and the databook says soul as well

He "destroys someone's spirit" through mental torture. It's a very common expression.
And the profile doesn't give Tsukuyomi any form of Soul Manipulation.

 

[Ruijin]

If i remember well, Rokudo Mukuro who's the best illusionist of KHR can't affect Daemon's mind second and third key.
I think Tsukuyomi can affect him but i don't imagine that Daemon will be incap by that.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

He "destroys someone's spirit" through mental torture. It's a very common expression.
And the profile doesn't give Tsukuyomi any form of Soul Manipulation.

The profile doesn't need to say it, it already has soul manipulation. Not everything has to be explained

He "destroys someone's spirit" through mental torture. It's a very common expression.

No evidence for that, "spirit" usually means soul, and its directly stated to be annihilating the heart and soul

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

The profile doesn't need to say it, it already has soul manipulation. Not everything has to be explained

Bruh, the Soul Manipulation he has is NOT for that, at all. It's because his Susano'o manipulates spiritual energy, and can interact with souls. Stop making shit up.
And no, everything does need to be explained on the profiles. Abilities and states without justifications need to be revised or axed.

No evidence for that, "spirit" usually means soul, and its directly stated to be annihilating the heart and soul

No evidence for what exactly? It being an extremely common expression? We already know exactly how Tsukuyomi works, and that's through inducing mental torture and breaking someone's mind. It has no Spiritual effects whatsoever. And it's not accepted as such.
If you wanna change that, you're welcome to create a CRT, but you better bring actual evidence.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Bruh, the Soul Manipulation he has is NOT for that, at all. It's because his Susano'o manipulates spiritual energy, and can interact with souls. Stop making shit up.
And no, everything does need to be explained on the profiles. Abilities and states without justifications need to be revised or axed.

No evidence for what exactly? It being an extremely common expression? We already know exactly how Tsukuyomi works, and that's through inducing mental torture and breaking someone's mind. It has no Spiritual effects whatsoever. And it's not accepted as such.
If you wanna change that, you're welcome to create a CRT, but you better bring actual evidence.

The profile doesn't mention that Itachi can concentrate chakra to his feet to speed himself up, nor does it explain how hot his Great Fireball technique is. By that logic can I say it doesn't explain therefore I can't mention the potency of his great fireball technique is? The profile also doesn't explain that he needs to use hand seals to use most jutsu, therefore he doesn't need to in this matchup?

No evidence for what exactly? It being an extremely common expression? We already know exactly how Tsukuyomi works, and that's through inducing mental torture and breaking someone's mind. It has no Spiritual effects whatsoever.

That's a lie, its also stated to destroy the soul. Destroying the mind doesn't just mean it doesn't destroy the soul.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

The profile doesn't mention that Itachi can concentrate chakra to his feet to speed himself up, nor does it explain how hot his Great Fireball technique is. By that logic can I say it doesn't explain therefore I can't mention the potency of his great fireball technique is? The profile also doesn't explain that he needs to use hand seals to use most jutsu, therefore he doesn't need to in this matchup?

Are you just intentionally being ignorant? I already explained to you what his Soul Manipulation is for. Stop being difficult.

That's a lie, its also stated to destroy the soul. Destroying the mind doesn't just mean it doesn't destroy the soul.

Then make a CRT. Until it's accepted and on the profile, this is worthless.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Are you just intentionally being ignorant? I already explained to you what his Soul Manipulation is for. Stop being difficult.

Then make a CRT. Until it's accepted and on the profile, this is worthless.

Are you just intentionally being ignorant? I already explained to you what his Soul Manipulation is for.

I did as well

Then make a CRT. Until it's accepted and on the profile, this is worthless.

Soul manipulation is already accepted, it doesn't say "only via totsuka blade"

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

My god....

, Soul Manipulation and Non-Physical Interaction (His Susano'o can wield Totsuka Blade which doesn't have a physical form, and users of Susano'o can interact with the soul)

Which part of this sounds like it's for anything other than the Susano'o to you?

 

[XXKINGXX69]

I didn't say it says he can use soul manipulation without the Susano'o

Im saying that not every detail needs to be on the profile

 

[M_Animefan]

I did as well



Soul manipulation is already accepted, it doesn't say "only via totsuka blade"

You literally said. :/

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I didn't say it says he can use soul manipulation without the Susano'o

Are you serious? This whole argument is about whether Tsukuyomi has Soul Manipulation or not....

Im saying that not every detail needs to be on the profile

Yes, every detail needs to be on the profile if it isn't self-explanatory. And Soul Manipulation is NOT self-explanatory.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

XXKINGXX69 haven't you been reported for this kind of behavior before?

 

[KingTempest]

If it doesn't say it can harm the soul on the profile, then it can't.

Make a CRT or be quiet

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Are you serious? This whole argument is about whether Tsukuyomi has Soul Manipulation or not....

Yes, every detail needs to be on the profile if it isn't self-explanatory. And Soul Manipulation is NOT self-explanatory.

Self explanatory is a subjective term thats also arbitrary so its meaningless

 

[KingTempest]

As the person who added Soul Manipulation to Itachi's profile, I can guarantee you Tsukuyomi is not related to the ability

 

[XXKINGXX69]

And ok I will make a revision now and he has other abilities that need to be added

This is a stomp.

So anyone disagree with it being a stomp?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Okay, I'm gonna stop replying because I can't take you seriously anymore.

Tsukuyomi doesn't have Soul Manipulation, that's final. You wanna change that? Make a CRT. Otherwise, you can bless us with your silence on the matter.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Ok you can disagree but thats your opinion

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Uhh, no, it's OBJECTIVELY not accepted.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Everything is subjective

 

[Rez]

So anyone disagree with it being a stomp?

In the first daemon has possession which Itachi doesn't resist but idk how that will interact with Edo.
In the second key Daemon can just bfr Itachi to his illusion dimension

 

[speedster352]

bump

 

[Tired_Author_21]

It's quite a bit layered. It has been quite a long time since I have read katekyo Hitman so can't recall the exact number

Tsukuyomi isn't soul manip

Has been able to trick Tsuna's Hyper Intuition several times.

Edit: This is by using rocks in his illusions which made Tsuna think they were just illusions and then was hit by rocks. If anyone can think of anything more put it here.

Daemon has the ability to possess people using his soul, and he can manipulate reality to make illusions real via Mist Flames.

Daemon can also copy abilities using his Mist flames and Analyze enemy weaknesses, strengths, and abilities with his Demon Lens.

He is arguably better at illusions than Mukuro who was able to trick Viper and beat him in an illusion fight(even if Viper left before he died)

Daemon's regular illusions can kill if one believes its not an illusion

That's all I can think of right now.

 

[speedster352]

Has been able to trick Tsuna's Hyper Intuition several times.

Edit: This is by using rocks in his illusions which made Tsuna think they were just illusions and then was hit by rocks. If anyone can think of anything more put it here.

Daemon has the ability to possess people using his soul, and he can manipulate reality to make illusions real via Mist Flames.

Daemon can also copy abilities using his Mist flames and Analyze enemy weaknesses, strengths, and abilities with his Demon Lens.

He is arguably better at illusions than Mukuro who was able to trick Viper and beat him in an illusion fight(even if Viper left before he died)

Daemon's regular illusions can kill if one believes its not an illusion

That's all I can think of right now.

MS genjutsu has 7 layers reffer to the genjutsu potency blog and tsuknoyumi last only a pico second so it's too fast to register and can kill and Itachi has tosuka blade, yata mirror and and susanno