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Ok so this is something I need to get off of my chest regarding the MHA verse profiles.
Shigaraki-
His AP should scale to his durability for the following reasons.
He was able to cause physical injury himself by over exceeding his limits as stated by himself and shown physically, and also implied by Deku.
-Chapter 283(Is in Imgur) Shigaraki states " I see why I was all busted up just a second ago, I had to go past my own body's limits just to keep going" This is further proven by the fact that in the previous chapter when Shigaraki is doing his speech panel it is clear his body is literally bursting at the seams with his own power.
-Chapter 283(Is in Imgur) Deku states "That power is too much for his body to keep up with"- and then we get multiple images of Deku's body breaking implying his AP is higher than his durability.
His durability should fully scale to Deku's 100%
-The counterclaim to this on Shigaraki's profile was that he was extremely injured with the help of his regeneration what it fails to mention which many people bring up during versus threads is three issues.
-Before Deku even started his 100% barrage Shigaraki's regeneration quirk was significantly slowed down, as Shigaraki's torso wound still hadn't regenerated by the time Deku was starting his barrages, and in later images, you can see it still hasn't regenerated, while just a few minutes ago he regenerated much more grievous injuries in within seconds, and have seen other people with the regeneration quirk regenerate wounds of this level much faster. (The high-end Nomu literally took less time to regenerate its entire body from its head). As well, as Shigaraki by his own admission admitting he was weakened. So whatever you want to say his regeneration quirk isn't a massive factor in him surviving this. (supporting images can be found in Imgur)
-Not to mention Shigaraki not only survives this but on top of this a roasting from endeavor at point-blank and was still capable of moving his body until the one for all explosion. And at this point, the regeneration quirk was barely if at all active, as the wounds he suffered from that still haven't been fully healed as of chapter 293 where at the very least several minutes have gone by.
Now a counterclaim I'll probably hear is "Yeah, but he was severely injured, so we should downscale him after all a Low 7-B+ can survive attacks from a 7-B right".
-Wrong for a few reasons
-First, off while Shigaraki did take major injuries from that attack this was after a bloodlusted adrenaline filled barrage of blows that by Bakugou's own admission which was proven true the damage from those attacks weren't so significant that he wouldn't be able to fight afterward and still be capable of taking the OFA quirk(not even getting AFO involved) it wasn't until Endeavor roasted him that he was pushed to the brink of death and even then he could still move and fight.
-Secondly, this idea is entirely inconsistent with the way we treat other characters in the verse.
-Nine was barely alive after taking two attacks but we still scale him.
-The Nomu who had a shock absorption quirk AND regeneration was knocked unconscious by AM's barrage of blows because AM went PLUS ULTRA (which Izuku was most certainly doing in that fight), while Shigaraki not only remained conscious but could still fight afterward for an extended period of time against Todoroki and Nejire.
-Muscular was one-shot by an adrenaline-filled izuku's delaware detroit smash(Izuku was definitely experiencing the same phenomena).
In conclusion for Shigaraki, the TLDR is Shigaraki's AP scales to his durability because he can damage himself and his durability scales because A his regeneration was barely a factor in that fight and B it's inconsistent with the way we scale other characters in the verse.
Izuku
45% should not scale to Shigaraki
The justification on his profile is he can restrain shigaraki and he took an elbow attack from him. Neither of these makes sense.
Regarding Restraining.
First isn't restraining a character considered a LS feat, not an AP feat, that's something that's consistent across this wiki.
Second, you forget to mention he was restraining him with BW. (This will be a tirade)
BW has been shown multiple times in the series to be independent of the amount of OFA percentage Deku uses for multiple cases, it just is linked to its usage.
--In recent chapters where deku could use black whip from his mouth with enough force to move dabi away from shoto unless you think deku just really does tongue day.
--When deku was causing widescale destruction with black whip the first time, it's clear that it's moving him around and not the other way around meaning it's power is separate from OFA.
-- The original user directly stated it's power is fueled by rage, and this is consistent with the story, and when Deku starts using 100% it shows no notable change until Bakugou is injured where its obviously fuled by rage.
Essentially saying that A it is a LS feat, not an AP one, and B he restrained him with a rage-enhanced BW which is clearly independent of his OFA percentage.
-Now regarding the elbow this is simple, Shigaraki was already restrained so he couldn't unleash his full power and B Shigaraki made multiple statements saying he didn't want to kill Izuku until he retrieved OFA IE he wasn't attempting to kill him so he likely just underestimated the amount of power to hit him with.
-The air cannon is an even weaker one , the air cannon's AP has already been calculated at 7-C so there's no basis to say it should scale to his stats.
-Deku should not get an expert hand to hand combat for outclassing Shigaraki for the sheer fact that shigaraki literally didn't attack deku at all when he was doing the barrage he was just staying there, because by his own words he was already weakened and he didn't know about air walk so he couldn't move in midair so he was forced just to endure the attacks. Deku just put him in a situation he couldn't attack him, an outclassing in hand to hand combat terms would need them to engage in some sort of exchange of blows which didn't happen here it was just an endurance match.
In conclusion, Deku should just have his stats read 8-B+ with 30%, higher with 45% up to 7-B, and or just keep it exclusive to Lifting strength as we have nothing to show us it can actually injure Shigaraki just restrain him.
Deku: 30% 8-B+, 45% 7-C(Could endure an Air cannon point-blank, durability should scale to AP given nature of OFA),100% 7-B varies with rage up to 7-B with BW
remove expert h2h for reasons I stated above.
Shigaraki:7-B(Was shown to have more power than his body could handle),7-B dura(Could endure a barrage of blows from 100% deku, in a weakened state while his regeneration was slowed, until Deku ran out of stamina)
Shigaraki-
His AP should scale to his durability for the following reasons.
He was able to cause physical injury himself by over exceeding his limits as stated by himself and shown physically, and also implied by Deku.
-Chapter 283(Is in Imgur) Shigaraki states " I see why I was all busted up just a second ago, I had to go past my own body's limits just to keep going" This is further proven by the fact that in the previous chapter when Shigaraki is doing his speech panel it is clear his body is literally bursting at the seams with his own power.
-Chapter 283(Is in Imgur) Deku states "That power is too much for his body to keep up with"- and then we get multiple images of Deku's body breaking implying his AP is higher than his durability.
His durability should fully scale to Deku's 100%
-The counterclaim to this on Shigaraki's profile was that he was extremely injured with the help of his regeneration what it fails to mention which many people bring up during versus threads is three issues.
-Before Deku even started his 100% barrage Shigaraki's regeneration quirk was significantly slowed down, as Shigaraki's torso wound still hadn't regenerated by the time Deku was starting his barrages, and in later images, you can see it still hasn't regenerated, while just a few minutes ago he regenerated much more grievous injuries in within seconds, and have seen other people with the regeneration quirk regenerate wounds of this level much faster. (The high-end Nomu literally took less time to regenerate its entire body from its head). As well, as Shigaraki by his own admission admitting he was weakened. So whatever you want to say his regeneration quirk isn't a massive factor in him surviving this. (supporting images can be found in Imgur)
-Not to mention Shigaraki not only survives this but on top of this a roasting from endeavor at point-blank and was still capable of moving his body until the one for all explosion. And at this point, the regeneration quirk was barely if at all active, as the wounds he suffered from that still haven't been fully healed as of chapter 293 where at the very least several minutes have gone by.
Now a counterclaim I'll probably hear is "Yeah, but he was severely injured, so we should downscale him after all a Low 7-B+ can survive attacks from a 7-B right".
-Wrong for a few reasons
-First, off while Shigaraki did take major injuries from that attack this was after a bloodlusted adrenaline filled barrage of blows that by Bakugou's own admission which was proven true the damage from those attacks weren't so significant that he wouldn't be able to fight afterward and still be capable of taking the OFA quirk(not even getting AFO involved) it wasn't until Endeavor roasted him that he was pushed to the brink of death and even then he could still move and fight.
-Secondly, this idea is entirely inconsistent with the way we treat other characters in the verse.
-Nine was barely alive after taking two attacks but we still scale him.
-The Nomu who had a shock absorption quirk AND regeneration was knocked unconscious by AM's barrage of blows because AM went PLUS ULTRA (which Izuku was most certainly doing in that fight), while Shigaraki not only remained conscious but could still fight afterward for an extended period of time against Todoroki and Nejire.
-Muscular was one-shot by an adrenaline-filled izuku's delaware detroit smash(Izuku was definitely experiencing the same phenomena).
In conclusion for Shigaraki, the TLDR is Shigaraki's AP scales to his durability because he can damage himself and his durability scales because A his regeneration was barely a factor in that fight and B it's inconsistent with the way we scale other characters in the verse.
Izuku
45% should not scale to Shigaraki
The justification on his profile is he can restrain shigaraki and he took an elbow attack from him. Neither of these makes sense.
Regarding Restraining.
First isn't restraining a character considered a LS feat, not an AP feat, that's something that's consistent across this wiki.
Second, you forget to mention he was restraining him with BW. (This will be a tirade)
BW has been shown multiple times in the series to be independent of the amount of OFA percentage Deku uses for multiple cases, it just is linked to its usage.
--In recent chapters where deku could use black whip from his mouth with enough force to move dabi away from shoto unless you think deku just really does tongue day.
--When deku was causing widescale destruction with black whip the first time, it's clear that it's moving him around and not the other way around meaning it's power is separate from OFA.
-- The original user directly stated it's power is fueled by rage, and this is consistent with the story, and when Deku starts using 100% it shows no notable change until Bakugou is injured where its obviously fuled by rage.
Essentially saying that A it is a LS feat, not an AP one, and B he restrained him with a rage-enhanced BW which is clearly independent of his OFA percentage.
-Now regarding the elbow this is simple, Shigaraki was already restrained so he couldn't unleash his full power and B Shigaraki made multiple statements saying he didn't want to kill Izuku until he retrieved OFA IE he wasn't attempting to kill him so he likely just underestimated the amount of power to hit him with.
-The air cannon is an even weaker one , the air cannon's AP has already been calculated at 7-C so there's no basis to say it should scale to his stats.
-Deku should not get an expert hand to hand combat for outclassing Shigaraki for the sheer fact that shigaraki literally didn't attack deku at all when he was doing the barrage he was just staying there, because by his own words he was already weakened and he didn't know about air walk so he couldn't move in midair so he was forced just to endure the attacks. Deku just put him in a situation he couldn't attack him, an outclassing in hand to hand combat terms would need them to engage in some sort of exchange of blows which didn't happen here it was just an endurance match.
In conclusion, Deku should just have his stats read 8-B+ with 30%, higher with 45% up to 7-B, and or just keep it exclusive to Lifting strength as we have nothing to show us it can actually injure Shigaraki just restrain him.
Deku: 30% 8-B+, 45% 7-C(Could endure an Air cannon point-blank, durability should scale to AP given nature of OFA),100% 7-B varies with rage up to 7-B with BW
remove expert h2h for reasons I stated above.
Shigaraki:7-B(Was shown to have more power than his body could handle),7-B dura(Could endure a barrage of blows from 100% deku, in a weakened state while his regeneration was slowed, until Deku ran out of stamina)
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