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Is there any (non-canon too) JoJo character that can have fair fight with this dude?
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Jorge Joestar stuff.
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Obvious answers are obvious
The High 1-C is only under specific circumstances and he has literally no resistances. Here's some more JoJo characters who probably beat him
Weather Report, Rohan Kishibe, Giorno Giovanna and Funny Valentine.
The High 1-C is only under specific circumstances and he has literally no resistances. Here's some more JoJo characters who probably beat him
Weather Report, Rohan Kishibe, Giorno Giovanna and Funny Valentine.
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Weather turns him into a snail OvO.
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Kars can D4CU and adapt to everything sans High 1-C, which dosn't kill him perminately
Joji's 5D fatehax works it's magic
Weather Report for Ion's reaons
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Funny Valentine's Love Cage protects him from everything but High 1-C (And maybe High 1-C if it's a 3D attack with higher-d AP it works)
Joji's 5D fatehax works it's magic
Weather Report for Ion's reaons
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Funny Valentine's Love Cage protects him from everything but High 1-C (And maybe High 1-C if it's a 3D attack with higher-d AP it works)
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No reason for it not to
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Then probably not unless it's the novel version, and that's only a huge ******* maybe. I'd have to re-read the reasoning for the Funny and The Funniest dupes explanation.XDragnoir said:
Edit: Wait, possibilities? Like fro the same dimension just different time or what if's? Because that's actually different, D4C paradox only works if it's an alterante universe or dimension, the same character can meet each other and be fine if it's the same character from the same universe just at different points in that timeline.
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Aleister possibilities is not only from same dimension but also different dimension. Thats why crowley hazard has many forms.
I think any jojo char with hax can beat aleister if they use it from start considering aleister has no acsess to academy city technology & no information about his enemies.
I think any jojo char with hax can beat aleister if they use it from start considering aleister has no acsess to academy city technology & no information about his enemies.
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I dont quite understand but...
If from alternate universes, then he's invulnerable, if from the same dimension just different points in time or split timeline or what ifs, he's likely not.
If from alternate universes, then he's invulnerable, if from the same dimension just different points in time or split timeline or what ifs, he's likely not.
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The problem is that aleister cant control many possibility at same time since they are seperate entity. He can change to another possibilities when his current body is died but the other aleister remains had its own mind.
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He can control them to an extent as they all refused to actually slaughter anyone in Britain due to his current mercy-mindset . But it's more so on a vagueness of 'We don't like that, so let's go **** that up' team up rather than 100% controlling iirc. If all possibilities deemed something as a threat, they would jump it immediately regardless of whether he can control them or not.
Most of them also have Blasting Rod's too, so he can kill almost anyone in JoJo that poses a problem to him with pure numbers. 1 v 1 is debtable with some choices here but possibility subbing-in-and-out will likely make it attrition to which he'd win since you have to kill him billions of times over or rewrite his entire being. Either way Jorge Joestar stuff is the obvious answers, everything else is whether or not he's 1 v 1ing with no possibilities or he's jumping them like it's the hood with 1 billion of them stocked or already out there. Killing Crowley just means another crowley subs in for him and takes control. Think of the possibilities as 1 billion 1-ups in this case.
Most of them also have Blasting Rod's too, so he can kill almost anyone in JoJo that poses a problem to him with pure numbers. 1 v 1 is debtable with some choices here but possibility subbing-in-and-out will likely make it attrition to which he'd win since you have to kill him billions of times over or rewrite his entire being. Either way Jorge Joestar stuff is the obvious answers, everything else is whether or not he's 1 v 1ing with no possibilities or he's jumping them like it's the hood with 1 billion of them stocked or already out there. Killing Crowley just means another crowley subs in for him and takes control. Think of the possibilities as 1 billion 1-ups in this case.
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>pucci does his thing.
tbh canon Pucci kinda blows when fighting characters above his tier.
tbh canon Pucci kinda blows when fighting characters above his tier.
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I mean, doesnt basically every JoJo character?
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A bit. Most take it speed unequal I assume? That's fair I guess, apparently he has extremely low durability despite his AP in his first key. But his wall of text spooks me so I'm not say anything like it's fact, who knows what type of bullshet hax he has, looking above it sounds like he has Novel D4C replacement too.
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Bullshit the plot to make it so he cant lose basically, passively. Even if it takes like a billion years. Basically canon PIS and extreme domino effect, is the most obvious thing that comes to mind.
Nobody has resisted Weather, except Pucci, but he had to abuse prior info he got decades prior and cripple himself to do so immediately before he got effected.
Well, it's explained in detail that same timeline shit is immune to D4C and alternate things arent, if he only dealt with timeline dupes but not alternate universe dupes then he probably cant resist the paradox, if it is alternate universe and not same timeline but just what ifs then he's immune.
Nobody has resisted Weather, except Pucci, but he had to abuse prior info he got decades prior and cripple himself to do so immediately before he got effected.
Well, it's explained in detail that same timeline shit is immune to D4C and alternate things arent, if he only dealt with timeline dupes but not alternate universe dupes then he probably cant resist the paradox, if it is alternate universe and not same timeline but just what ifs then he's immune.
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Probability hax aint the same thing though? Like, at all, while that's ******* busted in the resistance department, that doesnt mean he resists everything below 11D.
Especially if he aint constantly gaining new resistances. What he has is what he has unless otherwise specified.
Especially if he aint constantly gaining new resistances. What he has is what he has unless otherwise specified.
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Not what it says on his profile. Hell, he has no listed resistances on his profile. Dio has Plot and Fate Manip not just probability hax regardless. Aleister is High 1-C with a single attack, he isn't a proper smurf in any way.XDragnoir said:
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Hmm, if he has no confirmed resistances, would Dio's flesh buds sway him, or Novel Dio's Soul Copying? I doubt it given index's amount of mind manip and the like but maybe?
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Not the 11D shit, best Kars has shown the ability to understand, copy, adapt and mimic was low 2-C.
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The time resistance comes from him being able to act normally in a place outside of the concepts of time and space, and it is in the profile, can't remember where tough. The current revision to the grimoires will probably add soul and mind resistance to him as well. Like i said before, he has arguably resistance to 11D hax (probability being the most easiest to prove) because he could fight with "bloodlusted" True MGs (High Priest, Niang Niang, etc) and survive with "minor injuries".
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>resistance to 11D hax (probability being the most easiest to prove) because he could fight with "bloodlusted" True MGs (High Priest, Niang Niang, etc) and survive with "minor injuries".
He'd only resist the hax that they used on him, not hax in general, that aint how this works unless otherwise specified.
>Correct me if I'm wrong but the only 11-D stuff I see is the Blasting Rod. Everything else should be fair game.
The 11D resistances probably not either, could probably adapt lower end versions tho.
>mind resistance
Flesh Buds are a bit obtuse mind manip, it's done by literally rewiring the brain biologically.
He'd only resist the hax that they used on him, not hax in general, that aint how this works unless otherwise specified.
>Correct me if I'm wrong but the only 11-D stuff I see is the Blasting Rod. Everything else should be fair game.
The 11D resistances probably not either, could probably adapt lower end versions tho.
>mind resistance
Flesh Buds are a bit obtuse mind manip, it's done by literally rewiring the brain biologically.
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It's on the profile to justify void-hax or resistance to it. And we only have him resist what is shown not everything else unless it's explicitly implied like in Warhammer. Even then, the Jojo characters beat him without time stop.XDragnoir said:
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Well, if you can make a case for other haxes that would be used against him it should be fair game for example if the characters he fought dont or didnt use, say, absorbtion on him, then he doesnt resist absorbtion unless otherwise shown elsewhere or implied byut if you can make a case for say, hypothetically biological manip or time rewind then he mayce ban resist those. Things like that, but tbh while I'm interested in this topic, I wanna finish plating Re2, so aight, imma head out for awhile.
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>Then in that case, my list remains unchanged save for the addition of Joji.
To be fair, that kinda shuts down Love Train hard.
To be fair, that kinda shuts down Love Train hard.
