Iron Man Model 51 (Model Prime)

[WeeklyBattles]

AP:

• The prototype of the suit knocked out Grey Hulk
• Made Fin Fang Foom scream in pai
• Match M.O.D.O.K's energy blast
• Casually matched Nova
• Restrained and flew away with Hyperio
• Has a Hulkbuster form that increases his strength

Speed:

• Can keep up with Kept up with M.O.D.O.K, Hyperion, and Nova

Durability:

• Survived hits from Hyperio
• Tanked M.O.D.O.K's energy blasts

Powers and Abilities:

• Can hide his energy signature (Stealth Mode)
  • Can also become invisible
• Samurai Mode
  • Can upgrade weapons with a touch and can make them shoot electricity
• Magnetism Manipulation
• Multi-Vibrational Repulsor Rays (Used to hit intangible beings)
• Neutrino Ray (Dark Radiation) Capable of nullifying Hyperion's powers
• Energy that cant be absorbed by Carol Danvers
• Resistance to sonic attacks
• Resistance to phasing attacks
• Resistance to EMPs
• Resistance to heat on the level of the Human Torch
• Resistance to Radiation
• Armor has High-Mid Regenerationn
• Slowed the descent of a helicarrier (A Class M feat as a helicarrier weighs close to 100,000 tons)
  • This is also a second Class M feat for Carol
• Hacking
  • Hacked Vision with a touch
  • His suits are immune to hacking to the point where not even Ultron can control them
• Can make a duplicate of his armor controlled by FRIDAY

So all in all, Tony is High 5-A and MFTL+ with the Model Prime, with some nice additions to his powerset.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

I agree

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I disagree with 4-B and MFTL+

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Matt Why's that?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Because you could do the same for literally any Marvel character. Of course, the Hulkbuster Form is 4-B, but the normal form? I iunno.

Tony's best feats are Continent level+ or so, some higher.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

...You know this would only apply to him with the Model Prime Armor right?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Isn't this a better armor then his normal one?.

 

[Cropfist]

His continental feat was in a much weaker armor.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@LordGriffin Yes, the Model 51 was built to surpass all of his previous armors, while also combining them all into a single armor and improving their previous powers

 

[SomebodyData]

Grey Hulk = 5-B

Sam Nova = High 5-A

Fin Fang Foom = High 5-A

Not sure about MODOK's tier but Hyperion is 4-B.

Still I don't know, this sounds more like usual PIS than anything concrete.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@Weekly

Okay, now we're getting somewhere.

Is it superior to his "Superior Iron Man" armor? Cause that one had Tony fight against all of his previous armors and win, and also survived this:

http://***************.to/Comic/Avengers-2013/Issue-44?id=13665#14

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@SD Nova is 4-B, Modok's energy blasts are listed in the same tier as base Thor

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Still seems uncertain.

Can we discuss the manner of Tony's speed? It's very lowballed in the profile.

 

[Cropfist]

It's not the topic of the thread.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Matt Model Prime came after the Endo-Sym armor

 

[Promestein]

You mean the Endosym Armor?

High 5-A may be more consistent. 4-B's possible though, I guess.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

So High 5-A, possibly 4-B can suffice?

 

[SomebodyData]

@Weekly wrong Nova and I thought we only use the databook when it is consistent? Considering how MODOK usually fights much weaker characters I doubt he actually is 4-B.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I also doubt MODOK is 4-B.

Also please calculate the explosion that the Endosym Armor tanked.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@SD I see, my mistake. Though looking through a list of Modok's feats he's consistently portrayed on the level of base Hulk, Red She Hulk, Abomination (Who he actually killed), so i guess High 5-A would be more consistent, which makes all of the Model Prime's other feats consistent.

Four feats of beating High 5-A characters on top of having a built in Hulkbuster.

 

[SomebodyData]

Really? I'm pretty sure the amounts of times he's fought those characters are severly outmatched by the times he's fought lower tier characters, let me check.

As for Endo-Sym scaling, I also have doubts, specially considering that it is A - an artficial symbiote, B- seemingly retconned with All New, All Different Marvel, as the events of Superior Iron Man (Its only appearance, outside of a debatable cameo) never happened.

 

[Schnee_One]

RIP Lex Luthor

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@SD

• Hurts Hulk and withstands one of his punches.
• Tortures Abomination.
• Makes Abomination beg for mercy.
• Toys with Hulk and kills Abomination.
• Takes down Red She-Hulk with two blasts, the first was more than enough to draw blood and the second pierced and burned through her skin.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Anyway, Iron Man speed feats out of the top of my head:

• Races Rhodey from the Pentagon to Tokyo (Mach 251)
• Dugs out of the Earth's core, in one of his worst suits (Mach 435.4)
• Escapes from a Black Hole (>1c)
• Crosses the Solar System (103.9c)
• Outpaces an electrical current (Mach 264.4)
• Tony's Extremis suit saves Tony (46c)
• Intercepts Doctor Spectrum's lightspeed blast (Mach 76,289.5891)
• Has an entire dialogue in a timeframe of microseconds, narration even states that the scene is slowed dow
• His hand movement in that scene was calced too (Mach 160.2151153)
• Massively FTL+ Warp Speed (1,282,227,053,000c)
• Isolates a command signal in a few picoseconds, probably an outlier
• Extremis amps some of his thoughts to Lightspeed
• Flies to Baluur and back (111,506.04c)
• Iron Man flies to space (Mach 69.74198478 - Mach 154.9821884)

I think we should at least remove the "Subsonic" without armor.

 

[SomebodyData]

@Weekly I see

@Matt I think this is the wrong thread, tho I think I agree, can you organize via suit model?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

RIP Lex Luthor

Current Luthor is Superman level.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

You mean the Endosym Armor?
High 5-A may be more consistent. 4-B's possible though, I guess.

I also agree with this. We shouldn't scale everyone who can even somewhat measure up to Thor to 4-B.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah, i mistook Modok's feats for 4-B and mistakenly used the wrong version of Nova. All of the feats listed are for Tony fighting High 5-A characters

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Well, someone calculate the feat I posted above.

 

[Cropfist]

@Matt I think this is the wrong thread

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Tony survived the explosion of the Sol's Hammer, which can destroy a planet even with 2% of its power, and can power a moon with 0.008%.

I dunno the size of the thing, but from the scans I posted it seems comparable to the sun.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Im guessing Ant should see this before it's applied?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I am still iffy on ranking Tony's AP above High 6-A.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Even though this is one of his strongest armors and he already has an armor ranked High 5-A with less feats than this...?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@Weekly

Question:

Is this armor > Hulkbusters even without its own Hulkbuster? That seems illogical to me.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes actually, its built to be superior to any of his previous armors and it already has a built-in hulkbuster that it can transform into.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Probably no. It transforming into a hulkbuster would be pointless then.

 

[SomebodyData]

I do have some questions like how it was actually heavily damaged by Grey Hulk and I thought he made it to be a swiss army knife, granting him all his suits, rather than it being far superior. Do you have a link to when that's stated? His Armor 52 (Which should be superior) was also easily destroyed by a guy who got fodderizied by Sam Nova.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@Weekly

That only means that he can become High 5-A at any point.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Matt And yet he's only used the Hulkbuster form once and it wasnt even to actually fight anyone, whereas all of his other High 5-A feats were in the base form