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Iron Man Model 51 (Model Prime)

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@SD That's because it was just a prototype and not anywhere near the full power of the actual suit.

I'm bad at scans, do you have a site that has Invincible Iron Man Vol 2 #1?

Also the Model 52 was never stated to be superior to the Model 51, Stark even going so far as to call it a "One-off" and not worrying about it being destroyed
 
@Weekly I'm pretty sure the prototype only lacked the shapeshifting ability.

idk, I'll look for it.

Also I think the Ultron part may be hyperbole, considering how he almost got hacked by a random technopath later on if I remember correctly.
 
>That moment went you click on Marvel wikia and it starts with a quote from Tony about the suit being mainly a way just to fuse the suits.

"My new armor. I finally found a way to merge all my different armor modes into one. Armor that can change shape and color scheme based on mission stats. Armor not attached to my biology in that way that freaks just about everybody out (Bleeding Edge reference) but is completely attached to my brain synapses. I have to take this out."
 
I'll look into it but from what i recall it just had all of the full power suit's powers, just to a much lesser extent

Shrug Maybe, not sure on that part tbh

Also the Model 52 was never stated to be superior to the Model 51, Stark even going so far as to call it a "One-off" and not worrying about it being destroyed
 
This basically confirms my assumption that it is the strongest suit because it's all previous suits fused, and he can just assume a Hulkbuster form to fight High 5-A - 4-B people.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
This basically confirms my assumption that it is the strongest suit because it's all previous suits fused, and he can just assume a Hulkbuster form to fight High 5-A - 4-B people.
Except he never does that with this armor. All of his High 5-A feats are in the base armor.
 
The one off part probably refers to the lack of the main ability, considering he later specifically builds that suit rather than Model 51 to get rid of Pym Ultron.
 
Yeah, the original Model 52 was a one-off that got fodderized, the rebuilt version wasnt. Hell when the 52 was destroyed the 51 was the model he called in so he could fight.
 
Are you trying to imply there is a difference between Model 52 and its rebuilt counterpart, power-wise?
 
That's exactly what im implying. The original was fodderized by Warbringer, the rebuilt version was able to temporarily contain Pym Ultron. There's a noticable difference between the original armor Stark built with no intention of it being a permanent armor and the one used as the method of containing and transporting Ultron.
 
Also, im going to be looking into other Iron Man armors so if there are any other High 5-A feats i'll be sure to note them
 
Seeing as Model 51 is supposed to have the power of all of his previous suits rolled into one, if he's not superior to his previous armors then he'd at least be comparable
 
How? The guy needed to go under the radar due to how signifcantly weaker he was for one, and quite literally is a fusion of Pym and Ultron, who was in his base (not giant form).
 
I dont know, that's just what's on his profile, hence why im checking for accuracy

That's for Wonder Man, not Wonder Woman
 
Whoops read it as wonder woman.

But yeah, I don't quite remember any feats, heck he was careful around the Uncanny Avengers, which at the time maxxed out at 6-C.
 
Uncanny Avengers, I think vol 3 issue 11-13.

Rage of Ultron is a prequel to that story, its a good read if you're curious. (The Pym Ultron in Rage =/= Pym Ultron in UA, as the UA was completely fused and RoU was incredibly superior)
 
Got a link to Uncanny Avengers? I'll give them a quick read and get back to you with feats.
 
I saw, i'll read them real quick and get back to you with feats, but we should probably get Pym's profile adjustments to a seperate thread
 
Okay, so from Rage of Ultron he beat Vision and survived an attack from Starfox (Albeit he was damaged and fled).

Uncanny Avengers:

  • Fought Vision and base Rogue
  • Reacted to Quicksilver's attacks and broke his leg
  • Took attacks from Doctor Voodoo and the Human Torch
Pym Ultron is in the High 6-C range with possibly Low 6-B durability and FTL combat speed
 
I am fine with scaling the latest Iron Man armor to High 5-A, but am very uncertain about 4-B.

In addition, our main problem with Marvel profiles is the verse's ridiculously inconsistent speed levels. Characters with personal speed feats that are Hypersonic or similar, regularly keep up with characters that have MFTL+ showings. We will eventually have to do something about that.
 
@Ant

I am basically fine with "Likely High 5-A", and I think that Tony Stark should be Sub-Relativistic+ or so in Combat Speed, since the MFTL+ feats are explicitely Warp / Space Travel.

I am wholly against 4-B and MFTL+ for Tony.
 
@Ant Yeah, my bad about the 4-B thing, i made a few mistakes with scaling and character identification, all the AP feats listed are for him fighting High 5-A characters, so him being High 5-A is consistent.

@Matt the 4-B stuff for Tony has already been dismissed for some time. But his MFTL+ feats are all combat speed...
 
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