InuYasha-Verse Upgrade

[Mister_Death]

i can try to calculate the feat for bakusaiga. yes. i think there even was already a calc for that, though i will overlook it.
the meidou feat however - i need other people to decide whether we treat it as BFR or actual erasing of existence.

i would prefer to treat it as BFR since we have only one panel indicating it could be something else, whereas every statement goes against it...

http://www.*************/manga/inuyasha/c546/15.html

http://www.*************/manga/inuyasha/c546/16.html


Here we see that the Meidou Cuts

http://www.*************/manga/inuyasha/c547/


Here we see that the Meidou has turned into blades and can finally cut the previously invincible Naraku

http://www.*************/manga/inuyasha/c547/2.html

http://www.*************/manga/inuyasha/c547/3.html


totosai explains that it's a technique that cuts and still has its BFR abilities

http://www.*************/manga/inuyasha/c547/5.html

http://www.*************/manga/inuyasha/c547/6.html

 

[Mister_Death]

^

Also, while we are using values relating to things like rock and concrete, Naraku's body is much harder/stronger than those things, but do we have values for things harder than Diamond?(or even for diamond for that matter)

Or are we trying to find a low end? because honestly at this point Mountain level+ seems to be a low end

 

[RavenSupreme]

Sesshoumarus Bakusaiga


thanks to shiningforce and iwandesu from NF to giving us the values for rl japanese mountains in his blog, and lazywaka for a previous calculation, giving us the way to approach


shining force:

Average height of mountains in Japan is 1677.2 m (Credit to Iwan for providing in comments)

which lets us scale narakus body

radius of narakus body: 1118.3m


and put bakusaigas attack in perspective

1.

naraku: 303px - 1118.3m

height of the attack: 117px - 653.2m

attack is wide: 60px - 221.4m


using the cone calculator


http://www.csgnetwork.com/volumecalc.html


we get a result of


30.483.292,32 m3


2.

half an ellipsoid at the bottom of the cone: 35px - 129.1m

height: 117px - 653.2m


finding the volume with the ellipsoid formula


http://planetcalc.com/149/


and using the width for b and c we get a result of


22.801.177,43m3 which we half since its only half an ellipsoid

and end up with 11400588.71m3


adding up the result we get a volume of


41883881.035m3




to find the energy we have to find the material naraku consists of


we can be clear it is not rock, since the windscar which leveled mountains is considered a feeble breeze from mid-series o


for reference: the windscar pulverizing a mountai

Spoiler

http://b.*************/store/manga/45/336.0/compressed/i336.07.jpg?v=1294390931


http://b.*************/store/manga/45/336.0/compressed/i336.08.jpg?v=1294390931

and the same attack being made fun of

Spoiler

http://b.*************/store/manga/45/400.0/compressed/n400.14.jpg?v=1294335670


http://b.*************/store/manga/45/400.0/compressed/n400.15.jpg?v=1294335670


http://b.*************/store/manga/45/400.0/compressed/n400.16.jpg?v=1294335670

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naraku later obtains the "armored shell" which is harder than / cant be penetrated by diamonds

Spoiler

http://b.*************/store/manga/45/402.0/compressed/k402.04.jpg?v=1294335308


http://b.*************/store/manga/45/402.0/compressed/k402.05.jpg?v=1294335308

and made it his own within his body/under his ski

Spoiler

http://b.*************/store/manga/45/527.0/compressed/q527.07.jpg?v=1294354208

meaning the density for neither rock nor diamond is accurate. however i found a mineral which very closely resembles the armored shell and has a significantly higher density. Galenit


which has a density of 7200 - 7600 kg/m3 according to this table


http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/mineral-density-d_1555.html


we will use the low end with 7200 kg/m3


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41883881.035m3 x 7200 kg/m3 = 301563943452 which is our mass




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finding the way of destruction i use the simple pulverization for the low end, and cellular disintegration for the high end, according to the description of the weapo

the target became "infected" with spontaneous destruction that disintegrated the main body

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low end: 301563943452 x 1 000 000 x 214.35 = 64640231278936200000 joules


-> 15.44GT of TnT




low end: 41883881.035 x 1000000 x 214.35 = 8977809899852250 joules -> 2.14MT of TnT -15% hollowness -> 1.819MT

high end: to be added. anyone giving me a proper applicable value is appreciated

 

[Mister_Death]

^that would give sesshy a major upgrade

 

[RavenSupreme]

scales only to a handful people, if any at all

 

[Alakabamm]

How do we know it's a mountain and not a hill?

 

[RavenSupreme]

calc is currently under revision at NF - not applicable for now. apparently i mixed some things up as i referred to results from 2 other calcs and mistook some values

dis what happens when u try to quickly please everyone.

edit: changed the values. what is the code for striked-through text?

 

[Mister_Death]

calc is currently under revision at NF - not applicable for now. apparently i mixed some things up as i referred to results from 2 other calcs and mistook some values
dis what happens when u try to quickly please everyone.

EDIT: Are we good on an "Atleast Mountain level" rating? With all these scans and calcs, I think it'd be silly not for them to atleast be in that range tbh

 

[RavenSupreme]

the revision for now is in the small city range. which is already an upgrade.

for the high-end i have to completely calc the disintegration energy..this will take some time and i dont know if i make it today

but with disintegration it might as well be mountain/island level, yes

but no upgrade without revision

 

[Mister_Death]

^ ah okay

 

[Mister_Death]

^Also, whats happened with my Meidou scans? I'm pretty sure I provided solid evidence to support it is not simply BFR

 

[RavenSupreme]

you maybe should ask for more input on this. i see your reasoning but i am not yet 100 % convinced...

 

[Mister_Death]

^Which is reasonable given the circumstances, but who would I ask? This thread hasn't seem to have garnered tooo much attention, less than 5 are actively participating

And honestly besides what I've provided, the only other evidence I could really provide would be a statement made about the attack which goes as follows...

"The Meidō Zangetsuha (ÕåÑÚüôµ«ïµ£êþá┤, "Dark Path of the Dawn Moon's Wave") is an immensely strong offensive technique that creates a path that sends anyone who is hit with it directly to the Netherworld itself, killing them without actually harming them."

"The technique would undergo one final Transformation to better reflect Inuyasha's ownership of it as well as Tessaiga's nature as "a sword that cuts". The gigantic sphere was replaced by a barrage of blades that ripped apart whatever they hit and sucked up the remains, making it more effective against larger and more powerful opponents. In this new form the Meidō finally started to work on Naraku, who proved to be resistant to the attack's original form. Only the Shikon Jewel itself was able to survive this technique's full power and strength."

You'll notice that while it was spherical, it was purely BFR, but when it transformed, not only did it continue to BFR, it gained actual physical capablities, as bolded in the first statement.

 

[Tivanenk]

While I don't agree with several calcs here, I do agree that Inuyasha verse are hovering in the mountain level region. Kaze no Kizu was already taking down large hills even mid-way through the story. Endgame mountain-level is plausible. The art is horrible though for discerning things.

 

[Mister_Death]

^ How would" Atleast City level, Likely Mountain level, possibly higher" sound?

When I very first made this thread, I figured the highest upgrade they'd get is probably island level and atleast around mountain level or around that range


EDIT:The Naraku hovering above those mountains(where he is clearly larger than those mountains) is probably the best art for upgrading tbh, but I do agree the art is abysmal

 

[Mister_Death]

Hey Raven, remember that scan that got Inuyasha's speed downgraded?

Well it was a bad egg, a rambler, a fraud, a...whatever it was a trick

Thanks to alakabam,here is an interesting, overlooked scan

http://www.mangafreak.eu/read/inuyasha/30/10

 

[Antvasima]

@RavenSupreme I would appreciate if you post the finished calculation as a blog post when you find the time. If a few more calc group members take a look at and accept it, you can upgrade the InuYasha characters.

 

[RavenSupreme]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:RavenSupreme/Sesshoumaru_slashes_Naraku

 

[Mister_Death]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:RavenSupreme/Sesshoumaru_slashes_Naraku

I found something that might interest you. What do you make of this?

Sesshomaru flung a small meidou at Inuyasha, look at the effects it had on impact

 

[Reyatsuguy]

Hey Raven how about Hoshiyomi? The evil ninja demon from episodes 138-140 ? I remember him having some crazy feats like firing a huge energy blast that dwarfed a forest or creating a black hole similar to Meido?Can you at lest calc the energy blast? It looks pretty damn impresive