Infinity Guantlet vs Venuzdonoa

[Oliver_de_jesus]

From this Thread

Spoiler: Rulers

• Same rules as the regular top 5 strongest as basis
• For the vs-thread the item is wielded by a theoretical wielder with the same AP, Striking Strength & Durability as the Tier the item is trying to get a spot in and enough LS to handle the weapon. The wielder has no powers besides these stats and what the items gives them.
• Speed Equal, as way too many items have no independent speed. As basis for the speed equalization the wielder is assumed to have priorly had combat speed equal to the item's combat speed. If the item has no combat speed, it is equal to its reaction speed instead. If it doesn't have that either, the wielder's combat speed is assumed equal to the item's attack speed.
• The wielder is assumed to have average skill in the usage of the item or just enough to make proper use of each of the item's features.
• The wielder is assumed to have average stamina and energy pool (e.g. mana pool for items that need magic to be powered) for their tier.
• The wielder is assumed to use average intelligence in the usage of the item.
• The items need to have their own profile and... be equipment-like items, not androids or similar that just are regular characters

Venuzdonoa vs The Infinity Gauntlet

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

So the IG user sees his future and then seals the Venuzdonoa user with a thought

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

So the IG user sees his future and then seals the Venuzdonoa user with a thought

Venozdonor just destroys that reason + it has Acausality type 4.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Venozdonor nulls IG abilities as i don't see any resistance to powernull & stomps IG user.

 

[Quantu]

What happened to 99 layers of conceptual shenanigans, or is that Anos exclusive

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Venuzdonoa doesn't have Type 4 acausality.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Wasn't Venuzdonoa's logic stuff passive?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Venozdonor just destroys that reason + it has Acausality type 4.

IG has 6-D potency, plus his precog worked against casual Living Tribunal

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Venuzdonoa doesn't have Type 4 acausality.

I see no one bothered to adding it to the profiles

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

What happened to 99 layers of conceptual shenanigans, or is that Anos exclusive

Venuz has no layers in 6-D.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Wasn't Venuzdonoa's logic stuff passive?

It is

IG has 6-D potency, plus his precog worked against casual Living Tribunal

So does Venozdonor logic manipulation is 6D

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

It is

Does IG have any passive ability? Because afaik IG has no resistance to CM, so Venuzdonoa passively destroys any reason of IG winning

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Does IG have any passive ability? Because afaik IG has no resistance to CM, so Venuzdonoa passively destroys any reason of IG winning

Yeah by going by profile i don't see any big ability from IG. Venozdonor even gives HGR for users.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

So I'm gonna give this to Venzudonoa because of his passive CM

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I am also giving this to Venozdonor because it has better passives and I don't see any way IG Resisting powernull.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

some misconceptions i've seen

First of all, IG has potency
6.29ectD (no, I'm not making this up, literally marvel has fractional dimensions), Second the IG user has passive precog (that works on characters faster than Venuzdonoa attack) and it's not even won via killing, the Wincon is to Seal both

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Passive precog is not a wincon, meanwhile passive CM is

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Passive precog is not a wincon, meanwhile passive CM is

although I can see where it attacks passively on it own and not at the will of Anos?

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

• The only reason that Venuzdonoa allows to exist is the destruction of its wielder's enemies.[50] In other words, Venuzdonoa automatically destroys any reason or person that opposes its wielder.

-Venuzdonoa's profile

 

[DontTalkDT]

Yeah, currently leaning towards Venuzdonoa as well. It sounds like the user of the IG won't survive the hax and the sword likely goes first.

 

[Tatsumi504]

I'd like to just add that Venuzdonoa hasn't actually destroyed anyone passively but it does destroy whatever power that attempts to affect the user and it's passive.

Second the IG user has passive precog (that works on characters faster than Venuzdonoa attack)

How fast are they? Venuzdonoa doesn't care about something that transcends space-time, has no concept of distance, time or dimensions