Venuzdonoa very smol change

[Dereck03]

I was lurking Venuzdonoa's profile and noticed something.

Higher degree of Law Manipulation (Venuzdonoa can passively override the logic that two identical energies cannot harm each other negating a character's immunity to certain attacks making them vulnerable to them, allowing a holy weapon to harm a holy being)

So... This isn't Law Manipulation to any degree. For context, Jerga is immune to anything involving holy magic, and what Venuz did was destroy that reason and cause Jerga to lose that immunity allowing holy magic to affect him.

So I suggest that this be Resistance Negation, which now seems to be Power Nullification, so a redirect would simply be used, but note that Venuz is capable of getting rid of immunities, not just resistances as such.


Soooo... That's all

Agree.

Disagree.

Neutral.

 

[AlexSamDen]

A little question from me: was Jerga's (or the Holy thing in general) characteristic officially accepted as Immunity?

 

[Wesker018]

Agree with the thread.

Btw even if you consider it ‘resistance’ rather than an ‘immunity,’ it still falls under this description:

Resistance Negation is the ability to remove an opponent's ability to resist the effects of other powers, allowing the user to then affect them with those abilities. In extreme cases, this ability can even override apparent immunity.

which is textbook what venuz is doing

 

[Vietthai96]

Looks oke but

Venuz is capable of getting rid of immunities, not just resistances as such.

No, our wiki treat immunities as lacking certain aspects, thus immune to opponent haxes due to not having said aspects to be targeted. Being stated to be immune to something is still considered as resistance, and bypass it mean bypass resistances. We can't index true immunities

 

[Fixxed]

No, our wiki treat immunities as lacking certain aspects, thus immune to opponent haxes due to not having said aspects to be targeted. Being stated to be immune to something is still considered as resistance, and bypass it mean bypass resistances. We can't index true immunities

Well.. i think lack of something isnt the only way to get immunity. In fact if you are death it self, you cannot death and it was immunity, you cannot give an atribute to the atribute it self. Like water cannot become wet, or fire cannot be burned

 

[Saucy_Jackistan24]

Well, even if the Jerga feat is just resistance negation, we still have this feat of Venuzdonoa’s:

Destroyed the reason that the mindless clones manifested by Edonica couldn't think to make up for Edonica not manifesting said minds of the students, therefore giving them the ability to do so.

It’s already explained in the link what Edonica does but to summarize, Edonica is a spell which reveals the future self that a target should strive to become, but they’re mindless, so what Venuzdonoa did was destroy that reason and gave them the ability to think

This feat is already listed in the “feats” section of Venuzdonoa’s profile, but maybe we can combine both this feat and the Jerga one into being listed under the same ability (since the former is resistance negation while the latter is immunity negation), what do y’all think?

 

[Dereck03]

Looks oke but

No, our wiki treat immunities as lacking certain aspects, thus immune to opponent haxes due to not having said aspects to be targeted. Being stated to be immune to something is still considered as resistance, and bypass it mean bypass resistances. We can't index true immunities

I'm saying this because of this.

In extreme cases, this ability can even override apparent immunity.

I'm not suggesting anything more than resistance negation, just noting that it can even remove immunities and the note is already within the description so yeah.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Looks okay. Venuz already has Resistance Negation, so it'd just be adding an extra feat to that section.

 

[Tatsumi504]

Well.. i think lack of something isnt the only way to get immunity. In fact if you are death it self, you cannot death and it was immunity, you cannot give an atribute to the atribute it self. Like water cannot become wet, or fire cannot be burned

But fire can be burned in the verse and death, destruction have been killed and destroyed. Skill issue for those who can't do it I guess

Anyway I agree with resistance negation

 

[Fixxed]

But fire can be burned in the verse and death, destruction have been killed and destroyed. Skill issue for those who can't do it I guess

Anyway I agree with resistance negation

Yeah it is more of a feats than anti feats. Destruction get killed but it already stated it is impossible for destroy the destruction, and in this case it clearly stated it was impossible for affect holy being with holy weapon. Even in the verse it was impossible to do that, so it was not just some verse mechanic or it normal and common structure, it was count as an ability

 

[Vietthai96]

I'm not suggesting anything more than resistance negation, just noting that it can even remove immunities and the note is already within the description so yeah.

Oke i guess

 

[Dereck03]

Oke, given the approval in this minor matter I'll change the feat to resistance negation adding it to the already existent feat.

 

[Vietthai96]

Oke, given the approval in this minor matter I'll change the feat to resistance negation adding it to the already existent feat.

Still no bullet point

 

[Dereck03]

Still no bullet point