Infinite vs Mew

[Imaginym]

His sun attack takes time to ready & launch, no? And Mew's senses means it knows where the real Infinite is, right?

Teleport itself to a different part of the planet? Or does Infinite already know the invisible creature can teleport, & included into his illusion his sun attack following the target if it teleports to somewhere Infinite doesn't know?

BFR Infinite & his attack to avoid being hit by it? Petrify him while he's charging. MAYBE Stat amp then heal/regenerate? (Stat amp is probably not enough. 1,680 ZT tops versus over 3,070.)

(Also, a bit off-topic & late, but how does Mew's Memory Manipulation work?)

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

His sun attack takes time to ready & launch, no? And Mew's senses means it knows where the real Infinite is, right?

Teleport itself to a different part of the planet? Or does Infinite already know the invisible creature can teleport, & included into his illusion his sun attack following the target if it teleports to somewhere Infinite doesn't know?

BFR Infinite & his attack to avoid being hit by it? Petrify him while he's charging. MAYBE Stat amp then heal/regenerate? (Stat amp is probably not enough. 1,680 ZT tops versus over 3,070.)

(Also, a bit off-topic & late, but how does Mew's Memory Manipulation work?)

I'm assuming it's the move amnesia, scaling from Mewtwo's memory hax or both?.

 

[Theuser789]

Infinte's range is planetary, I already said in a previous comment: "Infinite is manipulating the surroundings with his virtual reality, Mew will still be in the same place but for him it will be like he's in diferent place, teleporting would be fleeing which counts for a loss, for someone outside of the effect of the Ruby they would see Mew flying confused and getting hurt by nothing, meanwhile for him he would see whatever reality Infinite wants"

The sun attack affects the entire planet, and it doesn't require a charge time, just a lot of energy, here's is Infinite using the attack (2:11) Edit: I was wrong, there is a charge time for the sun to be in effect, but is in Infinite's character to teleport away while the sun kills Mew, or just send his army of clones like he did with the resistance

I am pretty sure that Infinite can one-shoot Mew, and even if Mew knows where the real one is(that is if he knows how to read souls) Infinite could just warp the place with illusions to make Mew reaching him harder or just send clones, especialy since each clone is stronger than Mew

Anyways it's late to be arguing, even if you vote for Mew it's still going to end in inconclusive

 

[Imaginym]

Teleporting to another location within your opponent's range, &/or to dodge an attack counts as grounds for a loss by retreat now? Especially temporary teleportation where you return shortly after?

If Mew is aware of Infinite's aura, or can sense if he's pure of heart, unlike his clones, it can use his position as a reference point compared to its changing surroundings.

Wasn't it mentioned above Mew has Dimensional Travel? Couldn't clones be avoided by going to another dimension, then returning to this one at another point? The clones are part of a planetary range virtual reality.

The clones not following, or failing to appear on the other side of a portal Mew makes would make their nature more evident.

Heck, if Infinite & his clones can't or don't follow through the portals, why not just go to another dimension, open portals back to this one, & attack the real Infinite it senses with Aura Sphere or petrify?

Not to mention, Mew isn't easy to track if it's invisible. Even if Infinite controls the surroundings in the illusion, if he makes a wall, Mew could teleport to what may be the other side of it, or fly around it.

Heck, even if he CAN remake the surroundings it perceives in the PR's range, does he know what Mew is looking at any moment? How do you build structures around something when you don't know where it is or where it's going, it teleports, & it knows where you are?

 

[Theuser789]

Does Mew do all of that in character? Will he go to another dimension to escape?

Mew has to teleport out of the planet to avoid Infinite's range and illusions, so it is a loss, he's basically BFR himself.

The clones do have a aura, they just don't have a soul, that's why Mew needs the ability to read souls to sense Infinite, all of the illusions have the aura of the Ruby

Metal and Shadow have dimensional travel, he can just send them after him.

Infinite could send Mew to a virtual reality, he doesn't need to know what the opponent is looking, Infinite made a entire virtual reality to mess with Shadow when he was barely tuning in the Ruby as he says, he can do the same to Mew

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Pure of heart as in being a kind, heroic person? Infinite is like the furthest thing from that.

 

[Imaginym]

Does Mew do all of that in character? Will he go to another dimension to escape?
Mew has to teleport out of the planet to avoid Infinite's range and illusions, so it is a loss, he's basically BFR himself.

The clones do have a aura, they just don't have a soul, that's why Mew needs the ability to read souls to sense Infinite, all of the illusions have the aura of the Ruby

Metal and Shadow have dimensional travel, he can just send them after him.

Infinite could send Mew to a virtual reality, he doesn't need to know what the opponent is looking, Infinite made a entire virtual reality to mess with Shadow when he was barely tuning in the Ruby as he says, he can do the same to Mew

Leaving your opponent's range & returning periodically to attack sounds like still fighting, just via outranging, not retreat.

Heck, https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Standard_Battle_Assumptions says:

Victory Conditions: Killing the opponent, removing the opponent from the battlefield for at least one week (BFR), knocking the opponent out for at least one hour, or incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day, are to be assumed as victory conditions.

(Underline emphasis mine.)

You think it exiting one dimension, then going back to this one to continue the fight will take a week or more?

Also, all the clones having the same aura as an inanimate object the real thing (Who has a different aura) would be another clue about the fakeness. Also, is it the same kind of aura?

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Aura

Aura (Japanese: µ│óÕ░Ä wave-guiding) is a form of spiritual energy introduced in Lucario and the Mystery of Mew. It is described as the essence of every living creature.

The Phantom Ruby doesn't sound like a spirit-having thing, nor a living creature, so if the clones have the same kind of "aura" as it, then what would they register as?

And what stops Mew just exiting the virtual reality its opponent shoved them into via Virtual Reality? What if Infinite is aware of when his target leaves its range without going to the border? Wouldn't that throw him off? And then suddenly returns near him, either via Dimensional Travel, Portal Creation, or Teleportation?

 

[Theuser789]

Does Mew do that in character? Like at all? And as I said Shadow and Metal( two of Infinite's clones) can follow him.

As I said in the previous comment that's not how the virtual reality works:Infinite is manipulating the surroundings with his virtual reality, Mew will still be in the same place but for him it will be like he's in diferent place, teleporting would be fleeing which counts for a loss, for someone outside of the effect of the Ruby they would see Mew flying confused and getting hurt by nothing, meanwhile for him he would see whatever reality Infinite wants, this how the virtual reality, the only way that Mew would escape is by teleporting out of the AoE of the Ruby.

Even though that the clones don't have a soul, Infinite can replicate part of them like their personality, Mew would have to sense that they don't have souls, and even if he does he still has to deal with all the illusions the moment he teleports back.

Teleporting close to Infinite is the worst mistake he can do, Infinite could just one-shoot him if he gets close, and Mew's attacks will barely affect Infinite because of the Ap gap

 

[Theuser789]

K

Bump, Cal you need to add this as inconclusive

 

[TheArsenal1212]

I can add it to Mew's if you'd like ?

 

[Theuser789]

Ok then, you can do that

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

It was added. This can be closed now.