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Infinite vs Mew

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WeeklyBattles said:
>Whereas mew has lots of really powerful abilitys such as teleportation, mind reading, turning invisible, etc, what they miss out on is the sheet power needed to take down someone like Infinite.
Mew actually has a significant AP advantage over Infinite, Mew scales to a 717 Zetaton feat, Infinite scales to a 617 Zettaton feat

>Infinite on the other hand can keep up with Modern Sonic who is nearly the speed of light, and is able to use the phantom ruby to create entire stars to throw at people.

Mew is Massively Faster than Light so he's thousands of times faster than Infinite, but that really doesnt matter either way as speed is equalized. And Infinite's stars are only planet level and were calculated as such.
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Where are Mew's feets for power and speed coming from? best i remember ever seeing is mew keeping up with mewtwo who casuelly created a storm powerful enough to destroy all like on the planet. Not even close to planet level let alone star level. Also thousands of times faster then Infinite? Seriously? Mega Mewtwo Y took a few seconds to exit the atmosphere even when flying at his max speed and mew shouldn't even be close to that. Sonic nearly outran a black hole, casuelly doges lasors, and was stated in multiple places to be FTL including by himself and Omega who is a robot and thus has no reason (or way) to lie. Sounds like you're pulling this stuff from nowhere unless you're using the comic i guess, i haven't finished reading that yet so maybe.
 
@MrApple For being equal to Mewtwo who fought and severely wounded Deoxys

Even normal non legendary pokemon have numerous feats of dodging lasers

I highly recommend looking at the profiles please
 
@Eficiente It's not perception manipulation, it's creating a virtual reality around the opponent and anything they get hit by harms them for real.

He used replicas to gang up on Sonic at the beginning of the game and they're stated to have powers as formidable as the originals.

Sonic and the Avatar getting out of there is a feat of them being able to break dimensional boundaries. If you don't have dimensional travel you can't get out of it. I've conceded on this one since Mew's portals allow dimensional travel, the other points still stand though.
 
ShadowWarrior1999 said:
@Eficiente It's not perception manipulation, it's creating a virtual reality around the opponent and anything they get hit by harms them for real.
He used replicas to gang up on Sonic at the beginning of the game and they're stated to have powers as formidable as the originals.

Sonic and the Avatar getting out of there is a feat of them being able to break dimensional boundaries. If you don't have dimensional travel you can't get out of it. I've conceded on this one since Mew's portals allow dimensional travel, the other points still stand though.
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That is exactly what perception manipulation is.

Says nothing about how he already had info on them, + they were already created.

Can you prove that the place had inescapable dimensional boundaries in the first place?
 
Im pretty sure Mew would just teleport out of the virtual reality and this is assuming Infinite can get it around mew fast enough.
 
@Kukui You can't teleport out it it because it warps the actual reality around them.

@Eficiente No because the objects actually harm you.

Infinite creates them to fight the Resistance right before he creates that giant sun.

Null Space is a closed off pocket dimension created by the Phantom Ruby.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@MrApple For being equal to Mewtwo who fought and severely wounded Deoxys
Even normal non legendary pokemon have numerous feats of dodging lasers

I highly recommend looking at the profiles please
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ok, i looked at their pages and they just keep compareing to eachother or other pokemon, there are very few (if any) feets stated. it doesn't really matter in this particular fight due to speed being equalised but now i'm curious, any feets you can show of these pokemon being FTL, let alone MFTL?
 
Regardless of this Null Space/Perception Manipulation business, Infinite's duplication of himself and others is ectremely useful. Especially when he can create an entire army of them to fight if he deems it necessary.

Also, AP is a lot closer than it seems. The 614 Zettaton feat was done with a single Emerald, and Sonic was capable of facing Chaos after he absorbed up to four of them. While it isn't a multiplied thing and is more of an exponential increase, the 5-B cast should be a damn good bit above 614. Not only that, but Infinite essentially stomped Sonic quite easily until he got stronger. So Infinite is even above that.

I probably vote Infinite via his duplication, as he can easily make it a numbers game. He opened up with it against Sonic, did it several times throughout Forces, and he'd definitely use it here. That's not even mentioning the other points of debate.

Although I will admit, my knowledge on Mew is limited.
 
ShadowWarrior1999 said:
@Eficiente Then it wouldn't be a closed off space if there was a portal there all along.

So that's a very weak refute to Maverick's response.
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You can close a room or house yet it can still have other exits beyond the one you closed. Sonic didn't came out from the same place he was introduced, after all. Also most things in Sonic Forces were BS, this may as well be one of them.
 
Honestly, Forces is inconsistent. Chaos 0 gave Sonic trouble yet he scales to Chaos 4??
 
@WeeklyBattles The replicas of Zavok and Metal Sonic in the boss fights also don't get one-shotted.

@Cal Forces just has bad writing. Tails is scared of Chaos 0 yet he defeated Chaos 4.
 
Didn't Shadow also one shot his own clone despite saying there as strong as the original
 
There's also Rouge oneshotting Shadow (or at least a clone)

Let me say that again

ROUGE ONESHOTS SHADOW
 
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