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No we are talking about immunity in fictional perspective. You are simply nitpicking at this point and going topic off.
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Since when lacking of something in fictional perspective is mean immunity? And yeah the auhthor perspective when he wrote fiction is common perspective. And where i nitpicking?No we are talking about immunity in fictional perspective. You are simply nitpicking at this point and going topic off.
Is even that what i talking about in here?How you suppose soul hax someone who does not have soul. Explain the logic to me.
The problem is, it is common sense that if you not have something just make you have something for manipulate. I dont know where the logical contradictions here, because it very logicalI don't agree with the premise of the OP. Entities which lack aspects about their existence, such as a soul, are inherently immune towards abilities which manipulate the soul because they lack the aspect in question which is necessarily required for the manipulation to occur. Just because people in fiction can either bypass this inherent immunity through granting that soulless character a soul or having goofy fictional powers that can make logical contradictions mute doesn't mean we handwave away this blatantly self-evident notion.
If characters are capable of doing those actions, then denote that on the profiles themselves. We don't need separate abilities or different quantifications made for shit that's supposed to be intuitively gained given the evidence.
It is also very irrelevant.The problem is, it is common sense that if you not have something just make you have something for manipulate. I dont know where the logical contradictions here, because it very logical
Bruh... i dont say lack of something is not immunity, it was immunity yes of course. But is not fully immune to atribute they lack of, i mean they not completely unbound, they still can be bound by that atributeIt is also very irrelevant.
Let's say there is a robot. This robot cannot be biologically manipulated because it is not a biological being.
Then a reality warper appears and changes reality so that the inorganic robot is now a living flesh-and-blood human being.
Great, now someone with biological manipulation can affect them, right? So what? That doesn't change the fact that when the robot was just a robot, it was immune to biological manipulation. Just because you changed a character's nature so that the immunity no longer exists doesn't erase the fact that the immunity was there at one point.
It's impossible to be completely unbound by something in fiction, just like it's impossible to be completely unaffected by stuff even with Acausality Type 5. A higher entity could also just, do it anyways, it's the same reason even people with NEP need proof they can survive their plane of existence being destroyed.Bruh... i dont say lack of something is not immunity, it was immunity yes of course. But is not fully immune to atribute they lack of, i mean they not completely unbound, they still can be bound by that atribute
I mean that be completely unbound is being unaffected by any kind of manipulation of that atribute, it is creation manipulate or destroyed or anything. Being lack of something by default you can just add that atribute inIt's impossible to be completely unbound by something in fiction, just like it's impossible to be completely unaffected by stuff even with Acausality Type 5. A higher entity could also just, do it anyways, it's the same reason even people with NEP need proof they can survive their plane of existence being destroyed.
That's not what I meant. Your argument is if one is truly immune to soul manipulation, it's not just they lack a soul, but they can't even be given a soul, as that would circumvent their immunity. However, whatever is stopping them from being given a soul would have to be an ability or power of their level. Meaning a being of a higher level could just give them a soul anyway.I mean that be completely unbound is being unaffected by any kind of manipulation of that atribute, it is creation manipulate or destroyed or anything. Being lack of something by default you can just add that atribute in
Well higher being need feats for kill NEP character, if you destroy they plane of existence is mean they actually not die but being cannot do anything that equal to die
And well even lack of something can defend you from higher being manipulation of that atribute, i mean if you lack of soul, the soul manipulation from 4D 10D or even infinite D cannot manipulate your soul
Well yesHowever, whatever is stopping them from being given a soul would have to be an ability or power of their level. Meaning a being of a higher level could just give them a soul anyway.
Exactly, meaning in fiction where there is no limit to how strong characters can be, there is no such thing as true immunity. Splitting Immunity into two would be pointless, as both versions would still be overcome by a being of a higher tier giving them a soul and manipulating it anyway.Well yes
Since you concede, we can close the thread.Well yes
Yeah because that what not completely or fully immunity that i mean. There are no true immunity like there are no true immortality in fictionExactly, meaning in fiction where there is no limit to how strong characters can be, there is no such thing as true immunity. Splitting Immunity into two would be pointless, as both versions would still be overcome by a being of a higher tier giving them a soul and manipulating it anyway.
Ok, then we can drop this thread. The Immunity you are proposing, meaning someone lacking an aspect, and being unable to gain sed aspect back, hasn't been demonstrated in enough verses to be added to the wiki. At most, it's a unique ability/technique that can be listed in their profile.Yeah because that what not completely or fully immunity that i mean. There are no true immunity like there are no true immortality in fiction
Every ability in this wiki will still be overcome by a being from higher existence