Ikki Kurogane vs Shalltear Bloodfallen

[Apeironaxim]

She has death manip on her hits, so if he can get around that, maybe

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

If she needs to touch him, he can get around

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

, she isn't as liable to start out with death hax, and her passive death hax are related to her hitting her opponent. Its a stomp in the other direction ikki stat amps and she never manages to land anything that could kill him. Same with other gaurdians,though for them its more a matter of not knowing their abilities.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Just restrict Ittou Forms, then

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

I'm gonna swap Ainz for Shalltear.

What version of Ikki should I use?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

7-B version I guess

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

OP edited.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Nice pic for Shalltear btw

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Lots of padding though...

 

[Moritzva]

Can Ikki still amp massively?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Well he can, but the OP can restrict if its unfair

 

[Moritzva]

Well he can, but the OP can restrict if its unfair

Shalltear kinda has a

"I don't instantly lead with deathhax" problem.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Wouldn't that make the match invalid?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Wouldn't that make the match invalid?

No, cus different tiers.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Wouldn't that make the match invalid?

Not in this case

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

Can I restrict Ittou Shura then?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

K making sure, at the moment it seem ikki massivly outskills (Cough bullshit totally not skills Cough) Shalltears win con is getting a single hit off against ikki and I don't think it's feasible with his intinctive reaction/attack reflection/precog ect

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Shalltear has homing attacks tho

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I assumed he'd be able to dodge, precog, reflect them.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Shalltear's also probably going to use Summon Household, both to probably try to overwhelm him, and as a backup healing supply

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

True and her einhjar will make the battle more difficult for ikki to keep track, any hit from her is liable to get her the win, but for that to work out she has to get the hit. Pretty sure he resist her mental manip..

 

[Schnee_One]

Shalltear is getting upgraded to 6C

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Still fair because of Ittou Shura and Phantom Form

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Oh yeah we have that upgrade thread going.

 

[Apeironaxim]

with the way it's going that's debatable

 

[00potato]

Really can you post a link?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Here

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Should still be fair because of Phantom Form and Ittou Shura

 

[Schnee_One]

Ittou Shura won't do anything in terms of AP as he can't reach her armor.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

K Ignoring that for the moment as it hasn't gone through yet, how is his resistance to mental manip?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

K Ignoring that for the moment as it hasn't gone through yet, how is his resistance to mental manip?

Well he can fight while unconscious. That's his greatest asset, so he can neg most types of mind hax via...well..not needing a mind to fight.

That's ofc via skill.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

.....So shalltears mass hold species/mental control via eye contact would do what? In both cases he would view her as his friend/master so Im not sure.

Edit....I can't not express how bullshit I find that statement....

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Hmm, that feels like one of the things his senses would trigger about.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Yeah but he now has to avoid shalltears strikes, her eyes, and her mass hold species. While fighting off her familiar house hold and enhijar that shares her stats...

 

[Firephoenixearl]

>Avoid strikes

Easy

>Her eyes

He has dealt with worse.

>Her mass hold species

What's that?

>While fighting off her familiar house and enhijar

Should be duable

I mean we have the most skilled character in the wiki here. He can deal with that.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Mass hold species is the spell that has a similar effect to her eyes, ie mind control

 

[Firephoenixearl]

How does it work?

Also i should point out, Ikki has a reaction speed 48x that of Shaltear due to Pseudo Ittou Shura.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

It makes the target view shalltear as a freind and cease hostility. Isn't that still a blitz then? If he can stat amp to that extent she can't do anything.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

48x reaction speed. It's his 1st move in character usually.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

So shalltear can do nothing and this is a stomp? 48 times her reaction speed seems like its liable to make her look like a snail and he can precog her attacks to avoid them....