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Ikki Kurogane tries to solo your verse

Round 1: For TLOZ, Zelda herself hits him with an arrow. Game, set, match. For Mario, idk who in particular but he can't even get past the Boos due to their intangibility. Kirby, he gets killed by a random 5-A broom. For Pokémon, he probably doesn't even make it to a Pokémon as Sabrina turns him into a doll.

Round 2: Because loldeath and lolfate are on the table, it takes Link to bring him down for TLOZ. Mario, it'll take the plumber himself, if not Bowser. Kirby, instead of a random 5-A broom it's a random 5-A robot. Pokémon, Mewtwo gets tired of things and just snaps his neck telekinetically from half a planet away.
 
Rounds 1 and 2: Gets mindhaxed by Dracmon or Grimmon, if not just any Champion Digimon will take him.
 
World of Darkness: Hard nope both times, I'll say he gets to the mid tiers and then just gets yeeted. Any mage worth their salt can just disbelief gg.

Hokuto No Ken: Imma say no R1, R2 can likely take it depending on how he matches up with Kenshiro.

Guilty Gear: Gets poked by anyone R1, R2 can likely get up to Sol passively rewriting his everything.
 
I mean, the chick does lead with either planetary arrows or broken sealing. Also she's smarter than Ikki, given she's supposed to be as wise as Ganon is powerful.
 
Shinza: Can handle LDOs and Angels, but stomped by Expedition team, Bhavan and Yasvahan

Nasuverse: Stomped by smurfs and god tiers.

Touhou: Ikki get boundarie'd

Senshinkan: Amakasu BANZAI's Ikki hard
 
Something to note. When Ikki's bloodlusted the Fear Hax and Fate Hax and Death hax (basically Edelweiss Passives) should become passive for him.

Desperado passives aren't "passives" normally, they only become so with bloodlust, that's why only some people have them as passives. If you're forcing Ikki to be bloodlusted well, it should be no different.
 
Well they resist deathhax and mindhax, is his fatehax actually offensive without it?

Gaunter is going to get 4 and 8 types of immortality, he can BFR him with a thought and send him to him own world where he can do nearly anything he wants to. And he's an abstract.
 
Death hax is just an application of Fate hax. As for the mind hax, resistance isn't really the case, you just need to be resolved to die.

Abstraction is useless unless it's type 1. And fate hax can still stop movements with a thought.
 
Ikki can just fate hax them without getting past the high regen.

@Spooky

Don't really see anything that will help them vs that high level of Fate hax.

And being an embodiment even assuming it's literal, is just type 3, which is literally not a form of abstraction, the reason it was removed.
 
He uses his Ittou forms first in character which result in him getting neurosucc'd.

He doesn't kill in character either.
 
So what is this Fatehax? What does it do. Simply calling it fatehax doesn't tell us anything, Because, Mind and Death hax aren't going to touch Dracmon or any Dark Area mon. And he basically gets wiped by Digimon like Murmukusmo or any Top Tier.
 
I really want to know how does it beat Isu that can come back no matter what and kinda mindhax, deathhax, reality warp him etc
 
@Schnee

I was talking about bloodlusted. In character he doesn't solo infamous obviously.

@Dragon

Desperado has a 2 way passive:

1. You see your own death. To even decide to fight a desperado you need to willingly fight knowing you'll die, basically the resolve to throw your life away.

2. If you do decide to fight a desperado who did that, unless that desperado holds back, it's insta death (as proved by stella's words). You reach the end of your fate.

And then there are the causality and fate thought base things which basically force actions or impede them (can stop certain actions or can just go "don't move" and gg).
 
And what if that death doesn't happen because the opponent and his mother can come back any time they want to and do the thing?
 
And has that ability worked on someone with Type 5 Immortality/Nonexistent? Also, does it always do the "Don't Move:" thing? Or is it random. If so, it's not that reliable.
 
@Schnee

He doesn't, he just fate haxes into incap.

@Spooky

It'll just keep on repeating i guess.

@Dragon

Nonexistence doesn't give anything until proven (there's a thread on that). And type 5, hmmm, i guess they're safe from the death hax but still get fate haxed into incap.
 
@Fire

Again how? "Stop moving" won't work against someone who can just nuke the state and call it a day.
 
Is this consistent? What's the strongest thing it's nullified? Is this basically Power Null via Fate hax as Dracmon resists getting his Powers Nulled by someone far above Ikki's paygrade.

Stop Moving doesn't stop someone like Dracmon or Grimmon who don't have to move to hax you or Devimon who just needs eye contact.
 
Power null? What? Where di that come from?

@Schnee

That's even assuming they are strong willed enough to even attempt to fight him. But even so, he can still restrict that action. It's not "strictly" don't move. It was just an example of a use from Nene on Stella. You just abide his words.
 
Damn thread ate my post...

Clarifying Round 2

Zelda: Ganon doesn't care about seeing his own death. Dying is a Tuesday to him. He quite literally laughs off any attempt of Ikki showing him his own death. His immortality also counters loldeath (which I'm still questioning when it happened in Rakudai). Preventing him from moving with fate can only help so long given the assortment of magic he could do without moving. And this is without the Full Triforce. Even if he somehow gets past Ganon, and even Full TF Ganon, the Golden Goddesses think.

Mario Bros: Mario resists fear manipulation so that's a thing. Any attempt to death him prompts resurrection as well. And then Mario hits him in the face. Stopping one from moving wouldn't stop Mario cloning himself and making them invisible as well as intangible. Bowser is the same but worse. He likely just turns Ikki into an egg or a houseplant for ***** and giggles.

Pokemon: Well, he now beat Sabrina. But he still can't hit ghosts, so Gengar memes on him for that alone. Heck, Even Arcanine borks and Ikki bows to the dog's will, and Muk wins passively with its stench. Even if he somehow gets past them, Mewtwo and Deoxys think and Ikki gets ripped apart with psychic powers. Even if he gets past the majority of the Legendaries, Dialga burps.

Kirby: Again, 5-A fodder robots. Ikki can't fear or death Gim. And while Ikki outskills Gim out the ass, Gim is fodder and there's countless of them. Ikki makes a single mistake and he's done. Say less of the more powerful machinations like Kabula, NOVA, or god forbid Star Dream. And I didn't even bring up Kirby or the Dark Matter incarnations. Or Drawcia just thinking off Ikki's limbs.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
>Strong willed
This implies some type of Empathic Manipulation. This is extremely vague.
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Why do people have to assign it to some hax...always? Things aren't so black and white dragon, colors exist.

It just shows you your death, you need to be resolved to throw your life away to even fight them. It has about as much to do with hax, as you needing a strong will to fight against a dude who has a gun barehanded.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Power null? What? Where di that come from?

@Schnee

That's even assuming they are strong willed enough to even attempt to fight him. But even so, he can still restrict that action. It's not "strictly" don't move. It was just an example of a use from Nene on Stella. You just abide his words.
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Cole resists mind stuff in the millions, and literally radiates radiation from his body

Having a walking nuclear reactor stand there for 24 hours seems like a pretty terrible option
 
Wow, way to be an asshole. You could have just said, "No, I don't mean in the haxy sense, but more in the be willing to fight back." No need to act so condescending. Kay thanks.

>First part is something a Digimon ain't gonna be worried about seeing as it's their nature to fight to the death. So this bit is irrelevant.

Power Null came up because I am wondering how it just "Stops you" or keeps you from doing certain things. This would imply some power null.
 
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