Ichibei Hyosube vs The Seven Deadly Sins

[Quincy_Emperor]

Round 1: Base Ichibei vs All Sins (Base)

Round 2: Ichibei (Shikai and Bankai changing) vs Sins (Full power)


(I am inspired to make more fights like this.)

 

[Tivanenk]

Team first round, Ichibei second. First round, they simply gang up on him. Ban's immortality and Hunter's Fest, Merlin's teleportation, Full Counter from Mel, and Escanor's Sunshine will all be a problem for him. It's just too much for him to handle in base.

Round 2 is easy for Ichibei though. He just proceeds to paint them black to nullify their powers and cuts their names so that they would be less than an ant. Then he puts them all down. Ban is not a problem because Ichibei has the Mausoleum that can put him down for good. The fact that he has an significant speed advantage means he will get to paint them all black.

 

[Quincy_Emperor]

In round 1, his base blades half the power of whatever it hits, remember. Factor that in also. Along with BFR via Ri palms and Kidou.

 

[Tivanenk]

In round 1, his base blades half the power of whatever it hits, remember. Factor that in also. Along with BFR via Ri palms and Kidou.

Oh yeah, his blade does cut power (not even necessarily by half, he only did it so that Yhwach saves face). And yeah, Ri palms will be a problem since he can easily seperate everyone.

I'm changing my vote in round 1 to Ichibei since he's going to be able to do all that with his speed advantage.

 

[HokageMangaVox]

Ichibei's power doesn't work outside of his verse, since in the Seven Deathly sins names are not power. IIRC.

 

[Tivanenk]

Ichibei's power doesn't work outside of his verse, since in the Seven Deathly sins names are not power. IIRC.

Um, in Bleach, names are also not power. Where are you getting this from? Renaming someone ant means that the character will become as strong as an ant.

 

[Reppuzan]

I'm pretty sure the Sins are horrifically blitzed if Hyosube goes for the kill from the start.

Since he doesn't do that (considering the fact that Yhwach is still alive), I say Gowther takes this with mind hax.

 

[Tivanenk]

I'm pretty sure the Sins are horrifically blitzed if Hyosube goes for the kill from the start.
Since he doesn't do that (considering the fact that Yhwach is still alive), I say Gowther takes this with mind hax.

He did go for the kill. It's just that he wanted to humiliate Yhwach because of their personal history.

 

[Non-Bias]

Um, in Bleach, names are also not power. Where are you getting this from?


^ Well, there's this. Zangetsu stated that knowing the name makes a difference in power. There's also the fact that literally everyone in the series has an ability where one must call out the name in order to use full power, like Zanpaktou.

 

[Alakabamm]

This is sort of a stomp, NNT hasn't shown anywhere near Ichibei's power or speed and his hax is good enough that he can comfortably take on Naruto high tiers. I'm sort of tempted to close this.

 

[Quincy_Emperor]

Hax is not confined to one verse. His naming ability works on everyone. This is like the Genjutsu argument.

 

[Tivanenk]

Doesn't prove anything. There are many of times in Bleach, more times than nor, where knowing the name didn't make a difference at all. It's just Tite Kubo really likes this style of narration and cookie cuts it for everyone.

 

[Coleworld12]

Wait how did ichibe win against toneri without name hax?

And no he doesn't beat the sins with names he doesn't even know.

 

[Non-Bias]

Doesn't prove anything. There are many of times in Bleach, more times than nor, where knowing the name didn't make a difference at all. It's just Tite Kubo really likes this style of narration and cookie cuts it for everyone.

Hey, you asked where he was getting that from and I just provided the answer lol.

 

[Tivanenk]

Wait how did ichibe win against toneri without name hax?
And no he doesn't beat the sins with names he doesn't even know.

Why does he need to know their names? He just renames them all 'Dumb' and 'Dumber' and calls it a day.

 

[Coleworld12]

Why does he need to know their names? He just renames them all 'Dumb' and 'Dumber' and calls it a day.

Their powers have no names that's a bleach thing.

 

[Tivanenk]

Why does he need to know their names? He just renames them all 'Dumb' and 'Dumber' and calls it a day.

Their powers have no names that's a bleach thing.
Where does it say in Bleach that names have powers?

 

[Coleworld12]

I'm fairly certain @Non-Bias just provided evidence..

 

[Faisal_Shourov]

Their powers have no names that's a bleach thing.

What do you mean power? You talking about Zanpakto name? Yhwach didn't have any Zanpakto

 

[Coleworld12]

What do you mean power? You talking about Zanpakto name? Yhwach didn't have any Zanpakto

Aware of that.

 

[Tivanenk]

I'm fairly certain @Non-Bias just provided evidence..

Very flimsy evidence that didn't prove anything. Ichigo never stated that Getsuga Tenshou or whatever knowing it gave him power.

 

[Alakabamm]

I'm fairly certain @Non-Bias just provided evidence..

Very flimsy evidence that didn't prove anything. Ichigo never stated that Getsuga Tenshou or whatever knowing it gave him power.

Well, I don't agree with Cole but that's not true. When you learn your sword's name in bleach you get a massive power-up.

 

[Non-Bias]

Why does he need to know their names? He just renames them all 'Dumb' and 'Dumber' and calls it a day.

Their powers have no names that's a bleach thing.

Where does it say in Bleach that names have powers?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uz6pZfJrriU/Vi8WWJSj0sI/AAAAAAABTCk/rl9_Pp9n57A/s16000/0564-007.png


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3kaERNysLsI/Vi8WWE60lXI/AAAAAAABTCM/BmKkcoKpB3U/s16000/0564-008.png


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SNv32pqSbxE/Vi8WeTu3AUI/AAAAAAABTFM/KSXkaaVkkQo/s16000/0564-009.png


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_pKGjakkwPI/Vi8WXBmZE5I/AAAAAAABTC8/cEz1F3hoCsw/s16000/0564-010.png


Because his Zanpaktou didn't acknowledge him as a warrior, Renji couldn't use its full power because he didn't have the proper name. It heavily implies that names are power in Bleach. Ichibei's fight against Yhwach further proves that point.

Not saying that Ichibei's power wouldn't work by the way. I'm just showing what was in the manga.

 

[HokageMangaVox]

Ichibei's power doesn't work outside of his verse, since in the Seven Deathly sins names are not power. IIRC.

Um, in Bleach, names are also not power. Where are you getting this from? Renaming someone ant means that the character will become as strong as an ant.

Here:

 

[Tivanenk]

This is like that Genjutsu argument all over again where it doesn't work because someone doesn't have chakra.

 

[Non-Bias]

Ichibei's power would anyway seeing as how he was cutting Yhwach's strength in half via his arm, so it's really not a problem here.

 

[RavenSupreme]

am i correct that we are arguing HOW ichi defeats the sins? if things are that far there is little to discuss any further. speed+hax advantage -> bad combination

 

[Faisal_Shourov]

This is actually a stomp thread, not only Ichibei is faster, he has better stats and better hax. Sins don't stand a chance really

 

[RavenSupreme]

i think so too. it might be best to close it